• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:33
CEST 14:33
KST 21:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash ASL21 General Discussion How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F [ASL21] Ro24 Group E Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2397 users

Path of Exile - Page 1471

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1469 1470 1471 1472 1473 1755 Next
Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
OR
post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
Private league ladder (finished): https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/TeamLiquid and friends
keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
December 05 2018 08:32 GMT
#29401
Maybe time to play BV. Arc is alternative but sick of totem playstyle, perhaps arc trap..
Graphics
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 05 2018 08:35 GMT
#29402
On December 05 2018 17:32 keit wrote:
Maybe time to play BV. Arc is alternative but sick of totem playstyle, perhaps arc trap..

I played Arc miner last time, if you want something imba just copy Ahhcrying's Arc miner. ^^
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany830 Posts
December 05 2018 08:42 GMT
#29403
On December 05 2018 17:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2018 17:32 keit wrote:
Maybe time to play BV. Arc is alternative but sick of totem playstyle, perhaps arc trap..

I played Arc miner last time, if you want something imba just copy Ahhcrying's Arc miner. ^^



Is detonate mines also instant now ? I never checked.
Not sure how much chin sol nerf impacts ele hit. Was actually thinking about starting with it. I mean - Its probably still good, but thats a lot of single target you`re missing out on (25% if my math is right? I didnt have coffee yet, so not sure).
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany830 Posts
December 05 2018 08:44 GMT
#29404
Also, with the divination distillate nerf, would you even go for MoM as RF now ? Would be basically just for the MF...
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 08:52:19
December 05 2018 08:50 GMT
#29405
On December 05 2018 17:42 Espelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2018 17:35 HolydaKing wrote:
On December 05 2018 17:32 keit wrote:
Maybe time to play BV. Arc is alternative but sick of totem playstyle, perhaps arc trap..

I played Arc miner last time, if you want something imba just copy Ahhcrying's Arc miner. ^^



Is detonate mines also instant now ? I never checked.
Not sure how much chin sol nerf impacts ele hit. Was actually thinking about starting with it. I mean - Its probably still good, but thats a lot of single target you`re missing out on (25% if my math is right? I didnt have coffee yet, so not sure).

Yeah it's instant, at least with the instant node on the tree. You can just hold down mines and spam click detonate which won't interrupt the mine planting if you don't wanna use detonate totem. Also 25% is probably right, it's about that for my Ballista build too.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
December 05 2018 09:29 GMT
#29406
On December 05 2018 06:21 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2018 04:42 clusen wrote:
On December 05 2018 02:35 ThaddeusK wrote:
Been awhile since the CoC gem was actually used, but as I remember it cyclone was pretty much always used and whirling blades was just used to get around.

Well, Shield Charge was shit for most of the time CoC was good, if I remember correctly there was only one or 2 leagues where both were good (the height of CoC Discharge). Wasn't that the Gorge meta?


Strand, and it was for 2 patches with cospris and discharge both un-nerfed.

Cospri's was added to the game when CoC was getting dumpstered, so that can't be it
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 09:57:42
December 05 2018 09:55 GMT
#29407
Cospris first version had a .1 second cooldown and could clear strand in 30 odd seconds. The original version didn't use the coc gem at all. 2.6 was almost certainly it's absolute peak, before any nerds, discharge aoe could still one hit a screen, increased aoe still affected radius, vaal pact and Es were at their peak, and tricksters could run triple purity and attack 6 times a second with cyclone.

In 3.0 people realised that double dipping and ignites worked really well, so they either went full cold to fire with pyre ring and ran coc vortex with a vagan dagger, or they went brightness and elementals to prolif the burn.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 05 2018 09:58 GMT
#29408
On December 05 2018 10:01 bo1b wrote:
Molten strike is now exclusive to mjol jugg, sorry you had to find out the hardway.

Not really. Damage will still be great with enough sources of extra proj, even better now in certain cases.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 05 2018 10:07 GMT
#29409
I played Arc Trapper in Incursion, it was pretty powerful.

Nobody is commenting on Zana map mods: Perandus, Breach, Harbinger, Abyss!!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10870 Posts
December 05 2018 10:29 GMT
#29410
Breach? Fun!
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 05 2018 13:25 GMT
#29411
Mjölnir and flicker multistrike, the blood dance to get the attackspeed down, would the mjölnir trigger on each hit?
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
December 05 2018 14:19 GMT
#29412
Flicker is no different from any other hit (other than it getting alot of free attack speed), throw your setup into PoB and if flicker's attack time is greater than .15s with max frenzy charges you are good.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 05 2018 14:42 GMT
#29413
Right, and it's the multistrike - critical strike interaction that makes each flicker multi only generate one frenzy charge with terminus est.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
December 05 2018 15:02 GMT
#29414
My understanding of the terminus est/multistrike interaction is that terminus est generates a charge when you roll a critical strike and since multistrike only rolls for crit once on activation and all 3 attacks use that result, you only can get 1 frenzy per activation. The relevant wording on terminus est relative to say, voll's protector, is that terminus est does not mention hits or attacks or anything like that. So it's less a multistrike/critical strike interaction because each attack in the multistrike is a seperate attack which is a critical strike and more a terminus est/multistrike interaction because it doesn't proc on attacks that are critical strikes but on a successful roll for critical. But all of this is really deep in poe mechanics/wording, so who knows for sure.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8655 Posts
December 05 2018 15:58 GMT
#29415
So why is everyone saying Moltenstrike got nerfed? Am I reading this wrong? The original wording is:

"Projectiles deal [...] 30 % less damage (from 40 %) at gem level 20."

Before it had 40 % damage reduction on projectiles, now it has 30 %. That's a damage increase or am I missing something?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22190 Posts
December 05 2018 16:04 GMT
#29416
On December 06 2018 00:58 Miragee wrote:
So why is everyone saying Moltenstrike got nerfed? Am I reading this wrong? The original wording is:

"Projectiles deal [...] 30 % less damage (from 40 %) at gem level 20."

Before it had 40 % damage reduction on projectiles, now it has 30 %. That's a damage increase or am I missing something?
Head enchant was nerfed and Jewel is max 1 instead of 2.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8655 Posts
December 05 2018 16:09 GMT
#29417
On December 06 2018 01:04 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2018 00:58 Miragee wrote:
So why is everyone saying Moltenstrike got nerfed? Am I reading this wrong? The original wording is:

"Projectiles deal [...] 30 % less damage (from 40 %) at gem level 20."

Before it had 40 % damage reduction on projectiles, now it has 30 %. That's a damage increase or am I missing something?
Head enchant was nerfed and Jewel is max 1 instead of 2.


Saw the head enchant nerf but the jewel nerf is not in the patch notes? Source? Because if they don't nerf the jewel, this is still a net buff. If they nerf the jewel then it's a slight nerf.

Also just saw the massive buffs on rather old school uniques like Cloak of Defiance and Carcass Jack. Aren't they being used anymore? Back when I played they were commonly used in HC.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 16:24:05
December 05 2018 16:10 GMT
#29418
Yeah, which makes it an very, very slight nerf since the damage stays around the same for optimized builds (got that from Reddit), but the AoE and number of hits (meaning less life gained on hit) got lower.

Wildfire is now limited to 1. This affects all versions of the item


I think Cloak of Defiance will be excellent for EB + MoM now that it has very high ES. Lately the to go chests mostly were Kaom and Loreweave for Life builds, Shavronne for Low Life builds and for CI builds Incandescent Heart (as far as uniques go).
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 05 2018 16:21 GMT
#29419
Also that one jewel slot can now be filled by 4 stat crit jewel for example and that might make the whole thing a buff overall :D
Also the helmet enchant was not needed for Molten Strike to destroy endgame
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 16:23:36
December 05 2018 16:23 GMT
#29420
Also am I crazy or does a cold dot CI occultist sound good. Arctic Breath or Vortex one..
Prev 1 1469 1470 1471 1472 1473 1755 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko263
SortOf 202
trigger 83
Rex 73
Creator 36
LamboSC2 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 45376
Horang2 3471
Shuttle 1371
Mini 663
Soma 251
Last 242
ggaemo 215
Soulkey 204
BeSt 182
Rush 158
[ Show more ]
Mind 64
sSak 36
sorry 31
Movie 26
Shinee 26
[sc1f]eonzerg 24
Noble 14
Bale 13
GoRush 13
Shine 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
IntoTheRainbow 8
Dota 2
Gorgc4672
Counter-Strike
fl0m2542
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK13
Other Games
gofns11175
B2W.Neo1370
Beastyqt339
ProTech128
Mew2King73
QueenE63
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL24262
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 328
Other Games
BasetradeTV306
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 63
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1937
• Stunt585
Upcoming Events
BSL
6h 28m
RSL Revival
18h 28m
Cure vs Rogue
Maru vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 1h
BSL
1d 6h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Wardi Open
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.