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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
December 05 2018 08:32 GMT
#29401
Maybe time to play BV. Arc is alternative but sick of totem playstyle, perhaps arc trap..
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 05 2018 08:35 GMT
#29402
On December 05 2018 17:32 keit wrote:
Maybe time to play BV. Arc is alternative but sick of totem playstyle, perhaps arc trap..

I played Arc miner last time, if you want something imba just copy Ahhcrying's Arc miner. ^^
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany830 Posts
December 05 2018 08:42 GMT
#29403
On December 05 2018 17:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2018 17:32 keit wrote:
Maybe time to play BV. Arc is alternative but sick of totem playstyle, perhaps arc trap..

I played Arc miner last time, if you want something imba just copy Ahhcrying's Arc miner. ^^



Is detonate mines also instant now ? I never checked.
Not sure how much chin sol nerf impacts ele hit. Was actually thinking about starting with it. I mean - Its probably still good, but thats a lot of single target you`re missing out on (25% if my math is right? I didnt have coffee yet, so not sure).
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany830 Posts
December 05 2018 08:44 GMT
#29404
Also, with the divination distillate nerf, would you even go for MoM as RF now ? Would be basically just for the MF...
"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 08:52:19
December 05 2018 08:50 GMT
#29405
On December 05 2018 17:42 Espelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2018 17:35 HolydaKing wrote:
On December 05 2018 17:32 keit wrote:
Maybe time to play BV. Arc is alternative but sick of totem playstyle, perhaps arc trap..

I played Arc miner last time, if you want something imba just copy Ahhcrying's Arc miner. ^^



Is detonate mines also instant now ? I never checked.
Not sure how much chin sol nerf impacts ele hit. Was actually thinking about starting with it. I mean - Its probably still good, but thats a lot of single target you`re missing out on (25% if my math is right? I didnt have coffee yet, so not sure).

Yeah it's instant, at least with the instant node on the tree. You can just hold down mines and spam click detonate which won't interrupt the mine planting if you don't wanna use detonate totem. Also 25% is probably right, it's about that for my Ballista build too.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
December 05 2018 09:29 GMT
#29406
On December 05 2018 06:21 bo1b wrote:
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On December 05 2018 04:42 clusen wrote:
On December 05 2018 02:35 ThaddeusK wrote:
Been awhile since the CoC gem was actually used, but as I remember it cyclone was pretty much always used and whirling blades was just used to get around.

Well, Shield Charge was shit for most of the time CoC was good, if I remember correctly there was only one or 2 leagues where both were good (the height of CoC Discharge). Wasn't that the Gorge meta?


Strand, and it was for 2 patches with cospris and discharge both un-nerfed.

Cospri's was added to the game when CoC was getting dumpstered, so that can't be it
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 09:57:42
December 05 2018 09:55 GMT
#29407
Cospris first version had a .1 second cooldown and could clear strand in 30 odd seconds. The original version didn't use the coc gem at all. 2.6 was almost certainly it's absolute peak, before any nerds, discharge aoe could still one hit a screen, increased aoe still affected radius, vaal pact and Es were at their peak, and tricksters could run triple purity and attack 6 times a second with cyclone.

In 3.0 people realised that double dipping and ignites worked really well, so they either went full cold to fire with pyre ring and ran coc vortex with a vagan dagger, or they went brightness and elementals to prolif the burn.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 05 2018 09:58 GMT
#29408
On December 05 2018 10:01 bo1b wrote:
Molten strike is now exclusive to mjol jugg, sorry you had to find out the hardway.

Not really. Damage will still be great with enough sources of extra proj, even better now in certain cases.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 05 2018 10:07 GMT
#29409
I played Arc Trapper in Incursion, it was pretty powerful.

Nobody is commenting on Zana map mods: Perandus, Breach, Harbinger, Abyss!!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10917 Posts
December 05 2018 10:29 GMT
#29410
Breach? Fun!
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 05 2018 13:25 GMT
#29411
Mjölnir and flicker multistrike, the blood dance to get the attackspeed down, would the mjölnir trigger on each hit?
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
December 05 2018 14:19 GMT
#29412
Flicker is no different from any other hit (other than it getting alot of free attack speed), throw your setup into PoB and if flicker's attack time is greater than .15s with max frenzy charges you are good.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 05 2018 14:42 GMT
#29413
Right, and it's the multistrike - critical strike interaction that makes each flicker multi only generate one frenzy charge with terminus est.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
December 05 2018 15:02 GMT
#29414
My understanding of the terminus est/multistrike interaction is that terminus est generates a charge when you roll a critical strike and since multistrike only rolls for crit once on activation and all 3 attacks use that result, you only can get 1 frenzy per activation. The relevant wording on terminus est relative to say, voll's protector, is that terminus est does not mention hits or attacks or anything like that. So it's less a multistrike/critical strike interaction because each attack in the multistrike is a seperate attack which is a critical strike and more a terminus est/multistrike interaction because it doesn't proc on attacks that are critical strikes but on a successful roll for critical. But all of this is really deep in poe mechanics/wording, so who knows for sure.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8683 Posts
December 05 2018 15:58 GMT
#29415
So why is everyone saying Moltenstrike got nerfed? Am I reading this wrong? The original wording is:

"Projectiles deal [...] 30 % less damage (from 40 %) at gem level 20."

Before it had 40 % damage reduction on projectiles, now it has 30 %. That's a damage increase or am I missing something?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22452 Posts
December 05 2018 16:04 GMT
#29416
On December 06 2018 00:58 Miragee wrote:
So why is everyone saying Moltenstrike got nerfed? Am I reading this wrong? The original wording is:

"Projectiles deal [...] 30 % less damage (from 40 %) at gem level 20."

Before it had 40 % damage reduction on projectiles, now it has 30 %. That's a damage increase or am I missing something?
Head enchant was nerfed and Jewel is max 1 instead of 2.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8683 Posts
December 05 2018 16:09 GMT
#29417
On December 06 2018 01:04 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2018 00:58 Miragee wrote:
So why is everyone saying Moltenstrike got nerfed? Am I reading this wrong? The original wording is:

"Projectiles deal [...] 30 % less damage (from 40 %) at gem level 20."

Before it had 40 % damage reduction on projectiles, now it has 30 %. That's a damage increase or am I missing something?
Head enchant was nerfed and Jewel is max 1 instead of 2.


Saw the head enchant nerf but the jewel nerf is not in the patch notes? Source? Because if they don't nerf the jewel, this is still a net buff. If they nerf the jewel then it's a slight nerf.

Also just saw the massive buffs on rather old school uniques like Cloak of Defiance and Carcass Jack. Aren't they being used anymore? Back when I played they were commonly used in HC.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 16:24:05
December 05 2018 16:10 GMT
#29418
Yeah, which makes it an very, very slight nerf since the damage stays around the same for optimized builds (got that from Reddit), but the AoE and number of hits (meaning less life gained on hit) got lower.

Wildfire is now limited to 1. This affects all versions of the item


I think Cloak of Defiance will be excellent for EB + MoM now that it has very high ES. Lately the to go chests mostly were Kaom and Loreweave for Life builds, Shavronne for Low Life builds and for CI builds Incandescent Heart (as far as uniques go).
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 05 2018 16:21 GMT
#29419
Also that one jewel slot can now be filled by 4 stat crit jewel for example and that might make the whole thing a buff overall :D
Also the helmet enchant was not needed for Molten Strike to destroy endgame
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-05 16:23:36
December 05 2018 16:23 GMT
#29420
Also am I crazy or does a cold dot CI occultist sound good. Arctic Breath or Vortex one..
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