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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 27 2017 13:26 GMT
#23781
With the huge buff to righteous fire aoe, I wonder what this means for vaal righteous fire as a map clearing skill.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 27 2017 13:29 GMT
#23782
Yo this could be amazing, no reflect damage taken, needs only 32 souls per use, does the most damage of any skill in the game by far, etc etc. Only thing possibly holding it back is aoe radius.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 27 2017 14:46 GMT
#23783
On February 27 2017 21:28 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2017 20:44 -Archangel- wrote:
On February 27 2017 20:41 Alur wrote:
I would consider playing selfcast RF if it wasn't so restricted by map mods.

Is totem RF any good?

Yeah, it's very cheap, can run any map mods and is pretty strong if you play a good build. But it's incredibly boring imo (and I generally like totem builds). Plus annoying when monsters run out of totem range, but that will be less of a problem with more AoE.

I think totem RF is overrated, mostly cause it's cheap & strong (but not as strong as similar cheap builds like EA) but especially because it falls off hard in higher maps from the experience I had. In some tilesets you just can't place the damn things without them being almost instakilled and it becomes super tedious.

Vaal RF sounds tempting in SC tho... ;>

Either that or RF/Scorching Ray but as Alurr said map mod limits get annoying quickly.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 27 2017 14:47 GMT
#23784
On February 27 2017 22:29 bo1b wrote:
Yo this could be amazing, no reflect damage taken, needs only 32 souls per use, does the most damage of any skill in the game by far, etc etc. Only thing possibly holding it back is aoe radius.


and clicking it with no monsters in range to leech then getting killed by a skele archer auto
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 15:27:53
February 27 2017 15:27 GMT
#23785
I decided to do Berserker Chaos Spark as this league start like 2 months ago. So far so good, seems none of the changes will affect the build.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 27 2017 15:48 GMT
#23786
On February 28 2017 00:27 vndestiny wrote:
I decided to do Berserker Chaos Spark as this league start like 2 months ago. So far so good, seems none of the changes will affect the build.

Using the bow? How is that build good? You only get 65% (or less) conversion and you use up both hand slots with a weapon that has neither good offensive or defensive stats for a caster.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 16:25:05
February 27 2017 16:16 GMT
#23787
Am I understanding the AoE manifesto right? Storm Call gains additional +1 radius every 3 levels. That would mean the current radius of 20 would bet at 27 at lvl 21... That's quite a lot, no?

edit: Shock Nova has 26 radius and far worse dmg... how is that balanced. O_o Lightning Tendrils would be at 29 radius with lvl 21... back to being useable again?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 16:24:42
February 27 2017 16:19 GMT
#23788
yeah but ur playing storm call

edit: shock nova hits for 150% in the sweet spot and 50% elsewhere so the numbers aren't really right. Plus no delay.

nobody says "play shocknova" tho lol
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 16:28:25
February 27 2017 16:26 GMT
#23789
On February 28 2017 01:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
yeah but ur playing storm call

edit: shock nova hits for 150% in the sweet spot and 50% elsewhere so the numbers aren't really right. Plus no delay.

nobody says "play shocknova" tho lol

Foxtatics played Shock Nova in Breach. :D He even killed Shaper with Lightning Tendrils... After this AoE change I think he'd be better off playing LT for AoE as well.

But hey, maybe there are some more changes we haven't seen yet
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 16:32:32
February 27 2017 16:30 GMT
#23790
On February 28 2017 00:48 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 00:27 vndestiny wrote:
I decided to do Berserker Chaos Spark as this league start like 2 months ago. So far so good, seems none of the changes will affect the build.

Using the bow? How is that build good? You only get 65% (or less) conversion and you use up both hand slots with a weapon that has neither good offensive or defensive stats for a caster.


It's extremely good. The nerf conversation doesn't affect the added chaos gem so it still does like 75% base dmg of 2.2 pre-nerf. Also you can use Drillneck with Voltaxic for plenty double-dipping projectile dmg.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 16:47:44
February 27 2017 16:33 GMT
#23791
if call of the brotherhood hits 40% then it'd be fun to do cotb + voltaxic even if mildly pointless

although I feel like cotb will be 25% because why bother reasonable nerfs when you can remove from the game right also cotb really didn't need a nerf anyway

I do find it funny that deadeye is the best AoE modifier in the game now (better than flask effect dying sun, all other ascendancies, every cluster, even the gem (although I guess quality gem is still very slightly better)
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 27 2017 17:29 GMT
#23792
On February 28 2017 01:30 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 00:48 -Archangel- wrote:
On February 28 2017 00:27 vndestiny wrote:
I decided to do Berserker Chaos Spark as this league start like 2 months ago. So far so good, seems none of the changes will affect the build.

Using the bow? How is that build good? You only get 65% (or less) conversion and you use up both hand slots with a weapon that has neither good offensive or defensive stats for a caster.


It's extremely good. The nerf conversation doesn't affect the added chaos gem so it still does like 75% base dmg of 2.2 pre-nerf. Also you can use Drillneck with Voltaxic for plenty double-dipping projectile dmg.

I tried something similar with Lightning Trap (also had poison), I didn't find it good. And Spark is even less reliable than LT due to its random behaviour.
Can you explain to me how this 100% bonus damage is better than 2x wands that give many damage bonuses or 2x scepter or critical dagger+crit shield that also gives lots of ES?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 17:41:10
February 27 2017 17:40 GMT
#23793
chaos damage and double dipping
not sure what else there is to say

spark is mechanically VASTLY superior to lightning trap that's for sure especially with pierce
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 17:59:29
February 27 2017 17:51 GMT
#23794
On February 28 2017 02:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
chaos damage and double dipping
not sure what else there is to say

spark is mechanically VASTLY superior to lightning trap that's for sure especially with pierce

Poison is only good if you can hit them multiple times in short time. Spark does not really hit same target more than once, and since you will not have cast speed on your wands/scepters you will not be casting it fast and it does not reliably hit far targets as well.

LT+multitrap sets of 4 everytime and they hit close targets 4 times and hit everything in a circle for sure. And still it was not good enough.

Just plain old Vaal Spark is not much more expensive and much superior.
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany826 Posts
February 27 2017 19:51 GMT
#23795
So. After all the last minute challenge farming, there is one more thing to do.
For Evo (and everybody else who felt confused when I went "afk feeding bunnies" :

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Thats THAT "pics or it didnt happen" out of the way :D

Still dont know what to play tho.


P.S.: was a fun team thing we got going on there :D

"Its not over till Fantasy gg´s" - Sayle
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
February 27 2017 21:18 GMT
#23796
mvp post IMO
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 27 2017 22:14 GMT
#23797
Lightning traps, cluster traps and a sunbeelt + 2 cheap construction is heavily underated.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 27 2017 22:28 GMT
#23798
I had started theorycrafting a trap build until I realized that the trap support gem has twice the recharge time compared to ice/lightning traps for unclear reasons. 4s per trap, even reduced a bit with some tree nodes, seems far too restrictive although I suppose cluster traps could work.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 22:49:05
February 27 2017 22:48 GMT
#23799
On February 28 2017 07:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
I had started theorycrafting a trap build until I realized that the trap support gem has twice the recharge time compared to ice/lightning traps for unclear reasons. 4s per trap, even reduced a bit with some tree nodes, seems far too restrictive although I suppose cluster traps could work.

For double dipping trap support is not good anyways as it does not double dip. Just a trap skill+ Trap damage works better :D
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 27 2017 22:50 GMT
#23800
Theres no point going for a double dipping mechanic on something like lightning trap. It's best built as a screen clearer, and can be done quite nicely with the reduced cooldown provided by sabotuer and hasty reconstruction.
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