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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-16 10:44:42
January 16 2017 10:42 GMT
#23401
On January 16 2017 19:35 EchelonTee wrote:
does poeplanner save items and skill gems? those are the ones that would be rly nice to keep

Never used that feature, I think they added that recently and I never dabbled in it.
I know it saves aura choices which is a feature I find amazing as it lets me plan out my auras and mana solutions.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1947 Posts
January 16 2017 20:10 GMT
#23402
Hey guys, is that Passive planner overkill in regards to defensiveness? I am sure it's awful in the details, but i am more then happy to change trhat when i realize what is more important later on, and quite frankly, i am gonna die anyway before i get to the point where i would fine tune it :D So, consiering my goal is to hit the block cap, is around that too much defense to clear stuff in the lategame content or would that route be somewhat doable without trading 20 exalteds or something like that?

Any input would be appreciated
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-16 20:53:00
January 16 2017 20:37 GMT
#23403
Theres a few things with that tree

For one thing, you are taking wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many resists on that tree. I know it's a bitch to cap your resists, but seriously it's not that hard if you are willing to do a little bit of bargain hunting for gear. You certainly don't need the 100%+ resists you have on that tree.

Next up is armour. Armour is bad. A little bit of armour is nice (50% on the tree and some decent armour pieces). For everything else, there's granite flasks (of iron skin) and basalt flasks (of whatever suffix you like). Sentinel and Combat stamina for example are probably more than enough armour from the tree. If you really wanted to go all in on armour you'd be a juggernaut (and it would still be meh). You also really want endurance charges to go with armour.

Next up. Block. You have too much. Between your ascendancy, the base block of your shield, an anvil and boom already overcapped. If you are using a unique shield (and you should be), figure out exactly what block % it will be and calculate out your block numbers exactly. Then cut some block nodes.

Next up. "Defenses from equipped shield". This mod secretly reads "does nothing". You are already forced into like 250% from the good block nodes. Every additional bit is additive with all your other armour scaling (aka not multiplicative so bad). Never take a node that only has that on it.

Next up. Life. Skipping 5% life nodes that you are touching in softcore is a sin. Doing it in hardcore is literally unthinkable. 5% life nodes are the best nodes on the tree (except jewels which can roll 7 and other lifenodes that roll higher). Go gettem.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 16 2017 22:16 GMT
#23404
you can probably take this and modify it a bit for a duelist start. this was the second or third build i did - was before even dominus came out, but it was a pretty big quality of life increase over... whatever idiocy i was doing prior.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/105920
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 17 2017 08:52 GMT
#23405
Unless you are playing on HC I would advise against any too defensive builds. Even on HC, you will run into battles where if your DPS is too low, no amount of defenses will save you like how Kungen died vs Xoph.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1947 Posts
January 17 2017 09:56 GMT
#23406
That is good feedback, thank you

@Archangel: It is a HC character, so the question is indeed if it is too defensive even for that. I have literallyn o idea how damage scales into lategame, right now i am very comfortable with the build at level 45 damagewise and i would say it's about as defensive in proportion as it will be at maxlevel i won't reach. So i will try to get more damage nodes.

@ticklishmusic: i'll check that out, looks solid

@Sn0_Man; That is a lot of information :D

Block: I am counting on getting the amulet that raises the block cap by 3 i think, if i get a shield with 30 % block i should not exceed that with tempest shield on. But maybe my math is off, i might be wrong.

Armor: I will reduce armor then, i have no idea how it scales, right now it should still give me a solid physical reduction, but i guess lategame that is not the case if you don't invest heavily in it?

Defenses from quipped shield: Yeah, makes sense, if armor is not that important anyway and the only other stat it could boost is evasion, that isn ot worth a lot.

resistances: They are the only thing that kill me all the time. I am really scared of low resistances, especially as i am not a trader. I am playing by myself mostly and hope to get the items i need. I was almost oneshot by a volatile stormblood with just 30% lightning res and i am scared shitless I'll see how many resis i can get from equipment and reduce accordingly.

Life: More life then I guess i can redirect some nodes that i thought were more valuable for a balanced defense.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 10:47:18
January 17 2017 10:46 GMT
#23407
You want to have 6k or more life in end game and 75% resistances. Then in addition to that you add block or endurance charges or both. Then in addition to that you add armor or evasion or both.
And you make sure your DPS does not go too low. Which is very hard with weapon builds if you plan to not trade. Having a really good weapon is hard in self found mode. Better to play a caster in that case.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 17 2017 12:18 GMT
#23408
On January 16 2017 13:53 EchelonTee wrote:
does anyone know how to make it so PoE offline skil tree / Path of Building won't wipe my old builds when a new patch/update comes out? it happened the last 2 patches and I cant find a way to keep old builds even iff they are incompatabile

My offline skill tree planner thing hasn't wiped since at least a year when he introduced the new update function. Before then I just installed multiple copies at once but that's a bit annoying if you want to look at old builds.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-18 22:07:24
January 18 2017 22:06 GMT
#23409


PoE on Xbox One... Hope this doesn't affect the PC game negatively. Surely they will have used lots of ressources on doing that.

Also snow/winter act 5 pretty much confirmed.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-18 22:11:30
January 18 2017 22:07 GMT
#23410
Yeah this actually doesn't bold very well for the content of the main game.

Seeing horror stories about D3 and how ít console development affected the game, I'm not optimistic, especially considering GGG is still a 'small' company all the way in NZ.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-18 22:14:38
January 18 2017 22:08 GMT
#23411
Once they had dx11 working I'm willing to believe chris's statement that it was just a small team that got it ported. The upfront cost is probably not that high.

The real issue is continuously updating content. That's just not a console development model and I have real concerns about the kind of decisions that supporting XBOX will force in the future.

Act 5 leaks were nice tho
On January 19 2017 07:07 vndestiny wrote:
Yeah this actually doesn't bold very well for the content of the main game.

Seeing horror stories about D3 and how ít console development affected the game, I'm not optimistic, especially considering GGG is still a 'small' company all the way in NZ.

its "bode" not "bold
also d3 horror stories are dumb, the game was a giant steaming pile regardless of consolization. the console version is substantially different, enough that they could have made a good pc game but they never had any intention of doing that.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
January 18 2017 22:21 GMT
#23412
It will affect the pc client in some negative ways though.

GGG is already always tight on development schedule and budget (trade system, pvp system, guild support, 3D art, race system, performance issue... etc) and now they just take on a huge task of continuously support the games on 2 different platform. A lot will have to be compromised :/.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 19 2017 00:28 GMT
#23413
:epic facepalm:

good time for me to quit this game for good....thanks for all the fun
Swampflare
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1201 Posts
January 19 2017 01:19 GMT
#23414
what the fuck
Liquipedia<FO-nTTaX> so i ordered a pizza to my house in the pizza service next to me and let them deliver [me] with the pizza
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
January 19 2017 04:10 GMT
#23415
Think I'll wait for the 3.0 announcement before I decide whether or not to keep playing
hell is other people
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 19 2017 04:10 GMT
#23416
Chris released a development manifesto in response to the complaints
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1821427
tl;dr: "We knew everybody would complain about these exact things. We will be different. Because i say so."
not really very reassuring imo
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 19 2017 07:59 GMT
#23417
On January 19 2017 13:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
Chris released a development manifesto in response to the complaints
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1821427
tl;dr: "We knew everybody would complain about these exact things. We will be different. Because i say so."
not really very reassuring imo

"Trust me guys! Does this face look like someone who lies?" :D :D
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
January 19 2017 08:54 GMT
#23418
Is there any chance this xboxone version is playable offline? Doesn't look like it but D3 was.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 19 2017 09:01 GMT
#23419
On January 19 2017 17:54 Atreides wrote:
Is there any chance this xboxone version is playable offline? Doesn't look like it but D3 was.

GGG earns money by people buying stash tab so they can trade better. That does not work for an offline game.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-19 12:27:47
January 19 2017 12:27 GMT
#23420

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