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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 10:53:44
January 14 2017 10:52 GMT
#23381
I got a question about armor. I am using Iron Reflexes. With 2 flasks up (Jade and Witchfire Brew) my armor goes up to 28k. I am using a Grace aura. Now if I remove Iron reflexes I can free up 4 points (that I can get two jeweler slots with :D).
That would leave me with lots of evasion now and I can use Witchfire Brew and Basalt flask instead. I am not sure if that would give me similar amount of protections. I would not also be vulnerable to map mods with enemies having better accuracy.
Also without Iron Reflexes, my base armor is basically non existent.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 14 2017 15:55 GMT
#23382
Well non existant base armor won't be so good. I guess if you have 14k armour and 14k evasion it'd probably feel and be better than 28k armour.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 18:36:19
January 14 2017 18:31 GMT
#23383
On January 14 2017 19:52 -Archangel- wrote:
I got a question about armor. I am using Iron Reflexes. With 2 flasks up (Jade and Witchfire Brew) my armor goes up to 28k. I am using a Grace aura. Now if I remove Iron reflexes I can free up 4 points (that I can get two jeweler slots with :D).
That would leave me with lots of evasion now and I can use Witchfire Brew and Basalt flask instead. I am not sure if that would give me similar amount of protections. I would not also be vulnerable to map mods with enemies having better accuracy.
Also without Iron Reflexes, my base armor is basically non existent.

How much HP do you have? Are you life or ES? What skill do you use?

Also I just bought a presence of chayula for my LL ED build and holy shit this item is ridiculously OP. It gives me about 1200 extra ES on top of the 60% chaos res which is amazing and the of course stun immunity. If you're any form of hybrid, get it!
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1947 Posts
January 14 2017 22:58 GMT
#23384
I am now in act 2 cruel HC with 950 health and 1750 ES as well as 21% chance to evade and max elemental res. The last few breaches were basically always almost death. I have no idea how to deal with them, my damage is okay but not instant screen clearing, if it's an open area the sustained damage is just too high. Should i simply ignore the breaches or am i doing something horribly wrong? I am always trying to move out of the elemental stuff of the rare mobs but that doesn't seem to be the only problem. It's just too many of them at once.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 14 2017 23:21 GMT
#23385
Levelling up as es in cruel is incredibly dangerous, any form of rapid attack will most likely get you killed. I would avoid any and all breaches, and overlevel zones if thats what you are goign to do.

Be extremely wary in the lunaris temple level 2, the miscreations will likely kill you.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1947 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 23:48:46
January 14 2017 23:32 GMT
#23386
That sounds a lot like my life But what is the alternative, i can't afford to respec 40 points or something like that and switch over to ES when i feel like i can manage to survive. On another note, is there a way to know you are ready for CI? At the moment, chaos damage will likely kill me in the near future, but switching now is not an option either, cause without life, everything else will definately kill me. Oh well, let's see if i manage to reach 60 :D

And i did not reach lvl 60, i was killed by...maliaro. 20 minutes after i wrote the above. Fuckfuckfuckfuck iurfhgighuodeghurehguie97rtzu4hgrut5ehjorshjnoho921
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 00:15:47
January 15 2017 00:15 GMT
#23387
Avoid breaches in Cruel, especially if you cannot kill the screen immediately. I'd even avoid them in merciless until when you feel very strong. That is, if one plays HC like you.

Also... RIP
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 15 2017 00:17 GMT
#23388
His traps do chaos damage so that is one of the easiest ways to die I'd imagine.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 15 2017 00:32 GMT
#23389
On January 15 2017 03:31 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 19:52 -Archangel- wrote:
I got a question about armor. I am using Iron Reflexes. With 2 flasks up (Jade and Witchfire Brew) my armor goes up to 28k. I am using a Grace aura. Now if I remove Iron reflexes I can free up 4 points (that I can get two jeweler slots with :D).
That would leave me with lots of evasion now and I can use Witchfire Brew and Basalt flask instead. I am not sure if that would give me similar amount of protections. I would not also be vulnerable to map mods with enemies having better accuracy.
Also without Iron Reflexes, my base armor is basically non existent.

How much HP do you have? Are you life or ES? What skill do you use?

Also I just bought a presence of chayula for my LL ED build and holy shit this item is ridiculously OP. It gives me about 1200 extra ES on top of the 60% chaos res which is amazing and the of course stun immunity. If you're any form of hybrid, get it!

I got around 5300 hp. I use BF as a Berserker.
I read wiki a bit about armor and seems to get 30% damage reduction you need armor value of 5x the damage you receive. So I can reduce up to 5600 damage by at least 30%. Now the question is whose hits do physical damage that is over 5600 and how often? 10% better physical damage reduction over Basalt Flask is probably acceptable for a 4 point trade off (and it will get better as my Grace aura levels a bit more).
I just cannot know how often this armor will actually protect me and how often it will be useless.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 15 2017 01:20 GMT
#23390
u can have 999999999999 armor and get oneshot by a random spell. useless all right.
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 01:35:29
January 15 2017 01:34 GMT
#23391
On January 15 2017 08:32 Broetchenholer wrote:
That sounds a lot like my life But what is the alternative, i can't afford to respec 40 points or something like that and switch over to ES when i feel like i can manage to survive. On another note, is there a way to know you are ready for CI? At the moment, chaos damage will likely kill me in the near future, but switching now is not an option either, cause without life, everything else will definately kill me. Oh well, let's see if i manage to reach 60 :D

And i did not reach lvl 60, i was killed by...maliaro. 20 minutes after i wrote the above. Fuckfuckfuckfuck iurfhgighuodeghurehguie97rtzu4hgrut5ehjorshjnoho921


RIP.

I level as life based and respec to CI at around lvl 68. Witch/Templar shouldn't have too much trouble doing this. With shadow it's imo harder due to lack of suitable life nodes that are close to my main paths. You get something like 23(?) Respec Points from quests. I usually have to respec something like 30-35 points once I go CI. The rest is easily covered by regret orbs you find while leveling (or converted chance/scours). Once yo go CI you want to equip a decent ES chest. The most common base here are Vaal Regalias which require level 68.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 15 2017 02:06 GMT
#23392
On January 15 2017 10:20 Probemicro wrote:
u can have 999999999999 armor and get oneshot by a random spell. useless all right.

And you can as Evasion user. But most enemies use physical attacks.
Basalt flask also only protects vs physical damage (including spells) but I only ever seen Rogue Exiles using EK vs us (well and those monsters using BV but those are pathetic.
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
January 15 2017 02:20 GMT
#23393
On January 15 2017 11:06 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 10:20 Probemicro wrote:
u can have 999999999999 armor and get oneshot by a random spell. useless all right.

And you can as Evasion user. But most enemies use physical attacks.
Basalt flask also only protects vs physical damage (including spells) but I only ever seen Rogue Exiles using EK vs us (well and those monsters using BV but those are pathetic.


Evangelists in Scepter of God do physical damge spells. Those hurt a ton in high level maps. Can you grab any endurance charges? Basalt + Endurance Charges is a really strong combination since it's honest %-damage reduction unlike armor. I think this also stacks additively with armor, but I'm not 100% sure on the mechanics here.

All my melee builds in the last 3-4 leagues pretty much only ran Endurance Charges (granted usually 7 once I hit high level maps) + Basalt and I was doing fine with leech from blood rage.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
January 15 2017 03:34 GMT
#23394
On January 13 2017 22:57 vndestiny wrote:
What's the number of %increased life & es should I aim for in a hybrid EB/MOM build ? I've never done a hybrid build before so kinda blurry here.

can look at my hybrid SRS guy if you want: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/echelontee/characters?charactername=echelontl

with discipline I think I had around 5khp and 2k ES. I got 2shot (bear trap + caustic arrow vs boss) in a 1dmg mod T8 arena map so I do not recommend building my way lol, I guess you want something more like 6.5khp 2.5k ES, or have some other defensive mechanics like blasphemy enfeeble, but the investment to make such things work could just see you going ES instead.

you also basically need stone golem and ZO which is annoying, an alternative is using the ZO flask but I hated that play style.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 15 2017 22:30 GMT
#23395
On January 15 2017 11:20 incinerate_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 11:06 -Archangel- wrote:
On January 15 2017 10:20 Probemicro wrote:
u can have 999999999999 armor and get oneshot by a random spell. useless all right.

And you can as Evasion user. But most enemies use physical attacks.
Basalt flask also only protects vs physical damage (including spells) but I only ever seen Rogue Exiles using EK vs us (well and those monsters using BV but those are pathetic.


Evangelists in Scepter of God do physical damge spells. Those hurt a ton in high level maps. Can you grab any endurance charges? Basalt + Endurance Charges is a really strong combination since it's honest %-damage reduction unlike armor. I think this also stacks additively with armor, but I'm not 100% sure on the mechanics here.

All my melee builds in the last 3-4 leagues pretty much only ran Endurance Charges (granted usually 7 once I hit high level maps) + Basalt and I was doing fine with leech from blood rage.

There is another option. Since most of my gear is evasion (using Cospri's) I can respec from Iron Will into Acrobatics and Phase Acrobatics and use Basalt instead of Jade for damage reduction.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
January 16 2017 00:18 GMT
#23396
I just realize with the change in weapon range, unarmed builds are literally Ancestral Warchief or trash now. Damn shame :|
Faeny
Profile Joined January 2015
647 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-16 01:13:45
January 16 2017 01:06 GMT
#23397
They can bring back the +4 unarmed range jewel from the beta.

Does the +range make much of a difference for single target melee skills? I haven't played any of those in ages.
SKT hwaiting! RIP TL, TiP
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
January 16 2017 04:53 GMT
#23398
does anyone know how to make it so PoE offline skil tree / Path of Building won't wipe my old builds when a new patch/update comes out? it happened the last 2 patches and I cant find a way to keep old builds even iff they are incompatabile
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 16 2017 07:55 GMT
#23399
On January 16 2017 13:53 EchelonTee wrote:
does anyone know how to make it so PoE offline skil tree / Path of Building won't wipe my old builds when a new patch/update comes out? it happened the last 2 patches and I cant find a way to keep old builds even iff they are incompatabile

I use Poeplanner and take links of builds and keep them all in google documents
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
January 16 2017 10:35 GMT
#23400
does poeplanner save items and skill gems? those are the ones that would be rly nice to keep
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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