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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 12 2017 12:47 GMT
#23361
Why would you want to play a boring build like EQ in the middle of a league. Builds like that one are for early league currency collection.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3440 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-12 13:03:49
January 12 2017 12:58 GMT
#23362
On January 12 2017 21:47 -Archangel- wrote:
Why would you want to play a boring build like EQ in the middle of a league. Builds like that one are for early league currency collection.

Well not now, I'm just preping ideas/options for next league. I'm done with Breach and gave away my stuff like, 2 weeks ago hah.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 12 2017 13:26 GMT
#23363
Well as for your question... It depends on if GGG has removed the OP double dipping of Poison/Ignite/Bleed next league. IIRC they were gonna fix it for 3.0, but now there's a league before that... who knows. Also HoWA will probably be really expensive next league, inb4 it'll be so rare that its price will be like Skyforth.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 12 2017 14:21 GMT
#23364
I don't know if I will be playing next league, I been playing PoE non stop since start of Essence, I need a rest. And some cool games like new Torment are coming out near end of this league.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 12 2017 14:52 GMT
#23365
On January 12 2017 21:47 -Archangel- wrote:
Why would you want to play a boring build like EQ in the middle of a league. Builds like that one are for early league currency collection.

Dunno. Probably a strange question but out of interest: what are even non-boring builds?
Since I am pretty much noob (and dont do much of trading) I have only looked into cheapish/easy to play builds that are mostly used at the start of leagues. I guess most of those would be considered to be fairly boring
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 12 2017 23:52 GMT
#23366
I've stocked up on 20 howas now in preparation of them being unavailable
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 03:08:08
January 13 2017 02:51 GMT
#23367
On January 12 2017 03:28 Frolossus wrote:
anyone know of good up to date guides for essence drain occultist?


There's a guide for Shadow by ProjectPT www.pathofexile.com which also discusses alternatives such as Occultist. There's also this guide www.pathofexile.com which is for 2.4 and still a great source of information. Can also second his opinion that while leveling with ED is certainly possible Firestorm/Flameblast is much smoother.

There's a couple of major decisions to be made: CI/Low Life/Life based. Personally I went CI and picked up Zealot's Oath. Sitting at 13.7k ES with a defensive tree and shitty gear at lvl 90.
If you go life I'd strongly consider a Cospri's Chest. But with the new curse effectiveness map mods on maps I'm not so sure how good that route is.

Another question is whether to pick Profane Bloom or not. Exploding enemies won't spread contagion and may therefore occasionally slow down your clear speed. Personally, I think that the damage boost is well worth it (although it's sometimes really annoying for trash clear). Playing with Pierce Support helps but doesn't solve the problem completely.

Finally, for single target I'd either recommend Consuming Dark for Poison (or via Cospri's if you're life based) or you can try and get an essence crafted decay weapon (most damage is a +1 Bow but those are super rare in BHC at least). This should definitely beat a Consuming Dark but is way more expensive. Neither is strictly necessary for early mapping but a CD is pretty cheap this league and it really helps killing bosses.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
January 13 2017 07:25 GMT
#23368
On January 12 2017 20:59 vndestiny wrote:
How's the single target dmg of a generic 2h earthquake Slayer using a 6L almost bis weapon (e.g. Disfavour) compared to other common builds like Flameblast totem/HOWA raider/ED/Ngamahu/CI assassin bf etc... ?

Better single target than pizza totems and ed but obv very different playstyle. Dunno if u can compete with the other builds even if u scale it with poison (cospris will etc). Reminder that ngamahu and howa might be unavailabe next league depending on how they implement it
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 13 2017 08:20 GMT
#23369
On January 12 2017 23:52 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 21:47 -Archangel- wrote:
Why would you want to play a boring build like EQ in the middle of a league. Builds like that one are for early league currency collection.

Dunno. Probably a strange question but out of interest: what are even non-boring builds?
Since I am pretty much noob (and dont do much of trading) I have only looked into cheapish/easy to play builds that are mostly used at the start of leagues. I guess most of those would be considered to be fairly boring

There are many many non boring builds, they usually need special equipment to work. Check out build of the week series to see many of those although many of those have been nerfed or destroyed in the meantime :D
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 08:45:43
January 13 2017 08:45 GMT
#23370
It really depends on your definition of boring. I have seen many people write that Blade Vortex is boring but it has consistently been one of my favorite skills. Then again, I really enjoyed playing old school ground slam (no spikes just shitty red vein on the ground) so my standards are prty low.

I suppose most consider "fun" builds to be either really fast speed clear builds (Mathil builds, CoC stuff, etc), or stuff with funny/crazy interactions (wormblaster RIP)

skipping next league seems like a good idea to prep for 3.0. I'm almost definitely going to play anyways but probably just for challenges
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 09:09:24
January 13 2017 09:03 GMT
#23371
Gambled a few Vaal Regalias and hit some good ones. Definitely an upgrade, but nothing gamebreaking. Thx everyone for the help =)

Got a 50int, 20% cold res ~720ES, apparently worth ~440c.
Got a ~710ES ~40% resist, crafted int, sold it for 360c iirc.
And the one I'm using:+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Spent ~750c on the 6L regalias, crafted for about 2k alts, ~70 regals/scours, and ~150c total iirc.

Plenty of cheaper 6L ilvl 84 regalias pop up, but there are a lot of ppl instantly buying and relisting them for ~300c.

I'm thinking the Alt/Regal way is not worth it, but I might underestimate how much hitting the jackpot is worth.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 13 2017 09:18 GMT
#23372
Let me ask this if anyone knows.
Does http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bated_Breath
mod "50% increased Energy Shield Recharge Rate" work with Zealot's Oath regeneration of ES or is it only for normal ES recharge?
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
January 13 2017 09:37 GMT
#23373
On January 13 2017 18:18 -Archangel- wrote:
Let me ask this if anyone knows.
Does http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bated_Breath
mod "50% increased Energy Shield Recharge Rate" work with Zealot's Oath regeneration of ES or is it only for normal ES recharge?


Regen is regen.
Recharge is recharge.

They're both 'recovery' but they're not each other.
~
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 13 2017 09:47 GMT
#23374
On January 13 2017 17:20 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 23:52 disformation wrote:
On January 12 2017 21:47 -Archangel- wrote:
Why would you want to play a boring build like EQ in the middle of a league. Builds like that one are for early league currency collection.

Dunno. Probably a strange question but out of interest: what are even non-boring builds?
Since I am pretty much noob (and dont do much of trading) I have only looked into cheapish/easy to play builds that are mostly used at the start of leagues. I guess most of those would be considered to be fairly boring

There are many many non boring builds, they usually need special equipment to work. Check out build of the week series to see many of those although many of those have been nerfed or destroyed in the meantime :D

Cool will check that out. Since I was only looking for beginner/league starter builds I mostly skipped builds/guides that were like "you need following 3 uniques for this to actually work".

Also tried uber lab first time yesterday. Actually went way better than I was expecting it to go right until 3rd Izaro one shot me. =D
Thought I was outside the 20% more dmg trap things radius. Apparently not.
Might be a bit low on ES still, got 8.9k.
Also not trying to farm him or get all the keys possible, just want to kill him for the points and getting that challenge done.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 13 2017 09:56 GMT
#23375
He one shot you with 8.9k ES?! If he wasn't buffed he should not be able to do that. Maybe your ES was not at max?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 10:24:21
January 13 2017 10:22 GMT
#23376
On January 13 2017 18:56 -Archangel- wrote:
He one shot you with 8.9k ES?! If he wasn't buffed he should not be able to do that. Maybe your ES was not at max?

I kinda messed up on the first mechanic. He had the Frost Conduit buff. Also as I said I might have been in the radius of that 20% more received damage trap thing. Thought I was not, but since he one shot me I think I was. xD
I think I was at max, but I was also a bit tired.

Will probably just try again on the weekend. Should be doable if I don't screw up the mechanics and be more careful with that trap thing I guess.

edit: sentinel trap of endless pain apparently is the name for those.

sentinel traps are kinda annoying to deal with with pizza sticks at least for me.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-13 10:33:01
January 13 2017 10:31 GMT
#23377
With 12k ES + Fortify I managed to do Izaro yesterday fairly well, with full Conduit + Charges, which apparently is one of the worst combos. Helps that he died really quickly, of course. Was a shit lab regardless, so I didn't farm it.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3440 Posts
January 13 2017 13:57 GMT
#23378
What's the number of %increased life & es should I aim for in a hybrid EB/MOM build ? I've never done a hybrid build before so kinda blurry here.
Faeny
Profile Joined January 2015
647 Posts
January 14 2017 01:52 GMT
#23379
Is EB/MoM even good now? Seems like a lot of investment for at most, a 1.4x effective multiplier on your maximum life, and if you're getting ES gear anyways for EB...
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 06:31:35
January 14 2017 06:30 GMT
#23380
On January 14 2017 10:52 Faeny wrote:
Is EB/MoM even good now? Seems like a lot of investment for at most, a 1.4x effective multiplier on your maximum life, and if you're getting ES gear anyways for EB...


You don't need as much ES as a proper ES build, but compared to actual ES builds they arn't as good. But that's par for the course, everything sucks compared to a full ES build. A high eHP pool is just the best defence atm, and ES is hands down the best way to get that.
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