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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
On September 13 2016 20:56 r.Evo wrote: Best bow for SRS due to the low requirements, super fotm right now. Also in theory not using vorici has lower cost for 6s / links on average. I was asking because people request 20-30c for the ilvl and links don't require ilvl afaik. Using vorici is <35c worth of jews + it's guaranteed 6s. How is that cheaper? | ||
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ThaddeusK
United States231 Posts
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
On September 13 2016 21:41 ThaddeusK wrote: It's prolly because you need ilvl 50 to roll +1 level of socket gems Ah, that's it! Thanks, that was the answer i was looking for. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On September 13 2016 20:56 r.Evo wrote: Best bow for SRS due to the low requirements, super fotm right now. Also in theory not using vorici has lower cost for 6s / links on average. Why are people using a bow with a spell? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 13 2016 23:26 -Archangel- wrote: Why are people using a bow with a spell? Because the only mods that SRS cares about that you can't get on a bow is Cast speed and mana/regen. Which are nice and all, but really +3 fire gems is what matters. And now that an essence forces +2 fire and you can metamod to force +1 all gems very easily, It turns out bows are by far the easiest (mostly cheapest) way to a +3 5/6L for SRS builds plus you get a free quiver which isn't much of a dps slot but hey free quiver. Crude bows also have very low dex requirements which makes colouring their sockets reasonable (an important consideration when you want a bunch of blue and red gems) | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On September 13 2016 23:29 Sn0_Man wrote: Because the only mods that SRS cares about that you can't get on a bow is Cast speed and mana/regen. Which are nice and all, but really +3 fire gems is what matters. And now that an essence forces +2 fire and you can metamod to force +1 all gems very easily, It turns out bows are by far the easiest (mostly cheapest) way to a +3 5/6L for SRS builds plus you get a free quiver which isn't much of a dps slot but hey free quiver. Crude bows also have very low dex requirements which makes colouring their sockets reasonable (an important consideration when you want a bunch of blue and red gems) Wait, colors of sockets you get is dependant on stat requirements of the item?! That is first time I heard this LOL Another question. How hard is to level a skill gem to 20? (I read you can sell a lvl 20 skill gem and 1 GCP and get a lvl 1 20% quality gem). | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On September 13 2016 23:45 -Archangel- wrote: Wait, colors of sockets you get is dependant on stat requirements of the item?! That is first time I heard this LOL Another question. How hard is to level a skill gem to 20? (I read you can sell a lvl 20 skill gem and 1 GCP and get a lvl 1 20% quality gem). Yeah, so if you roll reduced attributes it's easier to color something if you're thinking of doing some more serious crafting. It takes a long time. If you start with a gem level 1 at character level 1, you'll be in your 90's before it hits level 20 (some gems need less xp than others). It's also much easier now to get decent quality gems as well, so it's not worth it as much. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On September 13 2016 23:45 -Archangel- wrote: Wait, colors of sockets you get is dependant on stat requirements of the item?! That is first time I heard this LOL Another question. How hard is to level a skill gem to 20? (I read you can sell a lvl 20 skill gem and 1 GCP and get a lvl 1 20% quality gem). This is your friend, may it save you from wasting chromatics: https://siveran.github.io/calc.html | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On September 13 2016 23:29 Sn0_Man wrote: Because the only mods that SRS cares about that you can't get on a bow is Cast speed and mana/regen. Which are nice and all, but really +3 fire gems is what matters. And now that an essence forces +2 fire and you can metamod to force +1 all gems very easily, It turns out bows are by far the easiest (mostly cheapest) way to a +3 5/6L for SRS builds plus you get a free quiver which isn't much of a dps slot but hey free quiver. Crude bows also have very low dex requirements which makes colouring their sockets reasonable (an important consideration when you want a bunch of blue and red gems) quivers like soul strike or the block quiver are actually really strong defensive options, way better than using a staff. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On September 11 2016 15:55 HolydaKing wrote: Yeah well, my main clear skill is gonna be Ice Nova which I love. So I got high crit chance already. I think the main pros/cons look like this: Have you taken a look at Vortex? Vastly superior to Ice Nova mechanically, really good against single target if you use Pyre and, most importantly, just look at how pretty Vortex is. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
Btw my new cold caster works fine so far, and I'm leveling all three skills I mentioned last page... for me Freezing Pulse so far works best for single target. Frostbolt deals similar dmg if it crits but I don't like the slow projectiles, and so far my gear isn't optimal critwise and as such I'm not nearly crit capped with Frostbolt. I'm already loving how Ice Nova one shots almost the whole screen (aside from rares and tough blues) if it crits, which it more often than not does edit: Didn't seen the post above: No I haven't, personally I don't understand why Vortex would be much better. It has smaller AoE, the initial dmg is slightly higher... and I don't wanna convert cold to fire for sure, I love the freezing a lot. But yeah I've seen a couple Vortex videos with insane ST, it might have the highest of all "cold" spells if you build and gear for that, I never really understood why though. I could definitely try it, I don't think the build would differ a lot of at all if using it. Also... how to get decent leech against bosses? Does the Atziri Flask actually help? Vinktar would probably not do much but maybe I underestimate it for non Lightning dmg builds. I'm using Warlord's Mark already but it doesn't feel enough. Maybe I have to sacrifice a gem slot for Life Leech. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On September 13 2016 23:45 -Archangel- wrote: Wait, colors of sockets you get is dependant on stat requirements of the item?! That is first time I heard this LOL Another question. How hard is to level a skill gem to 20? (I read you can sell a lvl 20 skill gem and 1 GCP and get a lvl 1 20% quality gem). If you don't die at all you'll get it to 20 at like 89-90 or so. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On September 14 2016 07:11 HolydaKing wrote: edit: Didn't seen the post above: No I haven't, personally I don't understand why Vortex would be much better. It has smaller AoE, the initial dmg is slightly higher... and I don't wanna convert cold to fire for sure, I love the freezing a lot. But yeah I've seen a couple Vortex videos with insane ST, it might have the highest of all "cold" spells if you build and gear for that, I never really understood why though. I could definitely try it, I don't think the build would differ a lot of at all if using it. lvl 20 Ice Nova: 369 to 577 (473 avg) lvl 20 Vortex: 458 to 688 (688 avg) + 684.5 DoT Vortex does 45% more base damage than Ice Nova and applies a DoT (which is scaled by spell damage because why not) that does 45% more damage per second than one hit of Ice Nova while you can continue moving. Ice Nova has 6% crit base so it has that going for it I guess. The difference is pretty insane tbh. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On September 14 2016 07:41 r.Evo wrote: lvl 20 Ice Nova: 369 to 577 (473 avg) lvl 20 Vortex: 458 to 688 (688 avg) + 684.5 DoT Vortex does 45% more base damage than Ice Nova and applies a DoT (which is scaled by spell damage because why not) that does 45% more damage per second than one hit of Ice Nova while you can continue moving. Ice Nova has 6% crit base so it has that going for it I guess. The difference is pretty insane tbh. Actually Ice Nova has a noticeable larger AoE, especially when you add in AoE increase gems and passives. I got a lvl 79 Ice Nova Witch and I also tried Vortex with her and it is not not nearly as effective in clearing maps. With Ice Nova I can almost hit people outside my screen and with Vortex I cannot fill whole screen with same gems and same passives. Also Ice Nova has a slighter better cast speed. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
To get close to the same damage as Vortex you need to use conc and there goes your AoE advantage for the cost of a link. Without that, sure it's clearly larger (79% inc AoE picture afaik, also note how deceiving the visuals are on Vortex). Both are definitely viable for certain things (as pretty much anything since Ascendancy) but the damage is so much higher that it starts being relevant when things become more tanky in higher maps. There's quite a large difference between a comfortable low tier map clear at 79 and doing the same with monster life/enfeeble in a yellow or even red map. Two 'less damage mods' (enfeeble, monster life, resist/phys reduction) is usually when I take a step back and need to rethink a build or gear, before then most of the content isn't too rough damage-wise. tl;dr boils down to "might as well level a vortex along the way just in case" because the damage is quite a bit higher than what Ice Nova can get with similar investment. That's pretty much the argument for why people use Vortex in a nutshell. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
I've never had this much gear or potential gear before. What's a good crit lowlife spec that isn't Blade Vortex this league? I've been contemplating Arc, Ball Lighting, Fireball, or Vortex, but I really have no idea, I've always just been stuck playing Firestorm or something until I got bored of mapping and mobs got too tanky. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On September 14 2016 11:30 TheTenthDoc wrote: I lucksacked my way into chancing a Skyforth's and dropping 2 ex, a 791% facebreakers, an Alpha's Howl, and a Shavronne's Wrappings. I've never had this much gear or potential gear before. What's a good crit lowlife spec that isn't Blade Vortex this league? I've been contemplating Arc, Ball Lighting, or Vortex, but I really have no idea, I've always just been stuck playing Firestorm or something until I got bored of mapping and mobs got too tanky. phys coc is probably the best | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On September 14 2016 07:49 -Archangel- wrote: Actually Ice Nova has a noticeable larger AoE, especially when you add in AoE increase gems and passives. I got a lvl 79 Ice Nova Witch and I also tried Vortex with her and it is not not nearly as effective in clearing maps. With Ice Nova I can almost hit people outside my screen and with Vortex I cannot fill whole screen with same gems and same passives. Also Ice Nova has a slighter better cast speed. Yup, when you calculate gem dps you gotta look at the cast speed too. Ice Nova has 591.25 dps at lvl 20 and Vortex has 636.66 dps plus the DoT with smaller crit chance. I'll probably try Vortex at some point and see myself if it's noticeable. | ||
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