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Hi I know there is lots of experts here at this huge community so I thought it'd be nice to ask.
I know a lot D2 but havn't played in like 3 years. Me and a friend are gonna try and beat the game in Hell straight through via LAN just for fun and cuz D3 coming out sometime soon.
I was wondering what 2 player party combo would be best for the long haul to beat the game in hell? I don't want us to spend the time playing all the way through and then get to Hell and be useless so I wanted to ask some people who are up to speed ^^
#1. I don't wanna just faceroll the game, it's not fun to have no challenge. If something is super OP then I don't care to use it. So I'm looking for something that's doable if you execute / play properly but is still challenging and not an auto-win in Hell.
#2. It's LAN, so we don't have people to trade with. We're gonna play legit, no hacking / buying items or anything like that. We might do some magic finding / leveling sometimes randomly but some super exotic builds with tons of unique / rare ass runewords probably aren't viable for us.
#3. For character preference I don't really have one except I don't really enjoy playing with a Druid or Assassin. So any combination that doesn't involve 1 of those 2 chars would be fine. The characters I'm most adept with are Barb or Pal.
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Get yourself a hammerdin and a frost sorc. As for items I have no clue, look stuff up on d2 jsp
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Hammerdin can solo everything once they hit a certain level. Frost sorc is just there to help him level up to that point.
Hammerdins are seriously broken as hell. Stupid Blizzard balancing...
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Even in Hell? Nothing can stand up to a Hammerdin? I thought u run into stuff that's immune to all Magic etc, so like I thought you can't just have 2 Hdins?
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Smiterdon and a Hammerdin. A smiterdon can do solo uber tristram. Hammerdins cant.
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If you want to not be a loser hammerdin, a Smite Paladin and a Necromancer are a good team that can do anything in the game with minimal gear. They compliment each other well.
You could make whatever combination you wanted to as long as you don't pick stupid builds (ex: Inferno Sorceress, Spear Amazon)
If you just want to be a dink, make two hammerdins.
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summon necro + hybrid sorc
All the curses necro have and split spec sorc will make bosses easy and enough crowd control and dps to blow through zones.
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Why are people recommending a Smiter? A smiter is absolutely useless pvm aside from uber tristram, and even in uber tristram, you only need 1 point in smite to do the job. A fanatic zealot would be far superior to the smiter but is rather gear dependent. OP and his friend are playing untwinked so its not like either of them are going to get any good gear.
best builds for this situation would be summon necro, meteorb sorc, blizzard sorc and hammerdin. Additionally don't listen to the people saying two Hammerdins. BH no longer ignores immunities of undead and demon so you won't be able to kill magic immunes anymore. Also hammerdin requires you to be able to get in range first which can be difficult especially in hell with low resists.Two concentration auras are also a waste.
edit: for good guides and more help make a thread in diablo.incgamers.com. D2JSP community is awful and is basically a trading community for duped ladder goods.
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You're missing the fact that it wont be on ladder so most builds will be void without there gear.
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Hydrasorc + Holyboltadin
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just dont play summoner necro, sure it rapes hell but you will be too bored to get past NM
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Quite a few people who fail to read the op...
The requirements are: - Lan play, which means using chars otherwise used for SP (or open Bnet) and pretty much results in no trading (non cheating SP players who trade do exist, but there are very few). - "beat the game in Hell straight through", so I doubt they want to do much magic finding
Now, for a seasoned D2 player those aren't very limiting requirements, most builds still work fine. There are so many viable two character combinations that I'm not even sure where to begin. Do you and/or your friend have any preference at all when it comes to characters? Or characters you don't like at all? That'd help.
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Summon Necro + Meteorb or Hammerdin imo. Summon Necro because it's the cookie cutter build for playing untwinked, sorc can speed things up a bit (tele to bosses, etc) but is kind of a glass cannon in untwinked play. Hammerdin because there's just so little that it cannot kill. But anyway, consult/look at d2jsp s&g before deciding, it's a very good place for d2 info.
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A Frenzy Barb and a Bowazon, you can use the shit out of eth weapons, which is always cool. This combo is super efficient for dealing with mobs as well, and the frenzy barb can do enough damage, and with BO's has enough health to take on the heros, especially once you get some life leech.
Frenzy barb can be fast in the right hands as well, so if you dont want to teleport everywhere, frenzy is efficient as well.
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Keep in mind you can re-spec since the latest patch so you can do pretty much anything and always re-spec to a viable build if you need to
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We did Druid/Bowazon to great effect. Also double Necro is fun.
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ice/fire sorc + barb
Just kite and kill shit, cus BO is imba.
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Paladin with convictionaura to support lightning amazone...and pala with smite for physical damage...
so you have smite for killing bosses and lightning for mass normal monsters..
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On July 30 2011 20:56 Holcan wrote: A Frenzy Barb and a Bowazon, you can use the shit out of eth weapons, which is always cool. This combo is super efficient for dealing with mobs as well, and the frenzy barb can do enough damage, and with BO's has enough health to take on the heros, especially once you get some life leech.
Frenzy barb can be fast in the right hands as well, so if you dont want to teleport everywhere, frenzy is efficient as well.
If you do this you will absolutely die in hell if not in the later acts of nightmare; it's just too gear dependent.
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All this comes down to how you want to balance your OP'ness and your element of fun. If you're looking to autowin, make a hammerdin. If you wanna have fun and don't have 100% faceroll, check the opposite end of spectrum.
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it depends whatt kind of char you like... melee/range/caster. id like for fun (and the suuuper~~~)hack&slay effect fanazealot and any kind of barbarian except singers ^_^. if you got the items make a doublethrow barb
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