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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 30 2011 13:25 GMT
#21
Im partial to sorcs so I would run something like necro/paladin + single element sorc

have the necro level lower resist or the pally level conviction

or run pally with fanat and a bowazon. something synergistic like that.
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
July 30 2011 13:34 GMT
#22
Conviction paladin and a lightning sorc/lightning javazon/trap assassin. Clears basicly everything no problem and fast. With conviction you don't even need sick gear and it removes most of lightning immunity.
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PJFrylar
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 13:47:01
July 30 2011 13:43 GMT
#23
Me and a friend just recently did a couple play throughs. The easiest combo we had was corpse explode/summon/amp damage necro and wind druid. Tornado can take advantage of the -physical % resistance of amplify damage (not to mention the immunity stripping amp damage does). The summons take a lot of pressure off with their meat shielding.

For regular monsters generally you just want the amp damage them, the druid puts a few corpses on the ground, and then the necro just clears the area with CE. Amp damage + tornado makes short work of bosses even in hell difficulty (also the summons provide a bit of meat shielding). Don't neglect cyclone armor with the wind druid, easily one of the more underrated skills in the game, especially if you have bad resists due to shitty gear.

We beat the game rather easily (including a kill of an uber diablo spawn - but you won't get that on lan ) with really shitty gear. I mean we were using like stealth armors and lore hats. So bad lol.

Edit: I should mention that my friend, who was playing on the necro) focused on CE moreso than summons. The radius of high level CE is really amazing lol. Though initially he did do a summoning build (so did I until hurricane). I'm not sure if you get respecs in lan though. The hardest the game got for us was actually normal diablo due to our summon reliance at that point then lol. We managed it with amp damage/repeated dire wolf summoning. Nightmare was a joke - pretty much just running through while hurricane insta-popped everything. Hell was fairly easy because our builds were in full swing by then.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 30 2011 13:49 GMT
#24
Another vote for conviction + elemental caster. Conviction obviously doesn't need items. Fire sorcs are probably the fastest to build from scratch, since you get decent damage spells earlier and you can shop for early leaf staffs with + skills.

Cold sorcs, well you don't get frozen orb until 30.

You could also do a lower resist necro with summons, but that takes longer to kill stuff.
PJFrylar
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
July 30 2011 13:56 GMT
#25
If you're going to rely on conviction for immunity stripping I would advise lightning. It is by far the easiest immunity to strip. Fire is next and high level conviction should be enough to strip, but the resulting resistance would be rather high still. Cold really is a no go. Many cold immunes have upwards of 150% cold resistance which is VERY hard to remove (remember you need -5% for every 1% over 100% for immunity stripping). Cold mastery has no effect against immunes, so until the immunity is stripped it will do nothing to aid the cause.
SpaceFighting
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand690 Posts
July 30 2011 14:06 GMT
#26
one of you definately has to be a hammerdin, theres no question about it those guys rape pve.. as for the other, i wouldnt choose a melee, like zealot/barb since nightmare/hell sanctum monsters mash out dat iron maiden.. so yeah it'd be difficult for a hammerdin to solo, i wud probably recommend a fire/lightning sorc, or if u wanna lame the shit outa it get a lightning trap sin LMAO, lay traps.. run around, rinse..repeat GG

wind druids could also be good to.. dont get a fire one tho, since fissure really does suck ass. GL!
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nakam
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 30 2011 14:16 GMT
#27
On July 30 2011 21:57 HaXXspetten wrote:
All this comes down to how you want to balance your OP'ness and your element of fun. If you're looking to autowin, make a hammerdin. If you wanna have fun and don't have 100% faceroll, check the opposite end of spectrum.

This is totally true. Pick something really hard and try to beat it anyway. It's way more fun. I'd suggest something with a melee sorc (enchanted weapon).
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 21:08:16
July 30 2011 18:52 GMT
#28
I can't kill anything with a hammerdin in hell. I'm untwinked, and without salvation aura, I have almost 0 resist, so everything with 2 of the following "x enchanted" or "spectral hit" or "cursed" or "extra strong" kills me in one hit.

I've always thought the necro would be overpowered in hell. Skeletons have only 600 or so life at 20/20 so they die in 5 hits by act4 hell, but revives are a great shield. Then anything that complements the necro with good damage (sorcs, hammers, bowazons, lightning fury) is a pretty good combo. If you guys are noobs I seriously recommend a necro or you'll be dieing a lot to bosses and random uniques in hell.

edit: Necros will make the game boring though.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 30 2011 19:00 GMT
#29
Go with a Zealot + Sorc of some kind.

Side question: What is Uber tristram? Did they add more stuff besides Uber diablo?
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iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 19:05:23
July 30 2011 19:03 GMT
#30
summon necro+paladin.

you can do it 2 ways, hammerdin or fana pala. both can finish hell. i dont think you will be doing uber trist out of b.net. takes a long time to get there (about 20 hell runs).
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 19:05:18
July 30 2011 19:04 GMT
#31
On July 30 2011 21:57 HaXXspetten wrote:
All this comes down to how you want to balance your OP'ness and your element of fun. If you're looking to autowin, make a hammerdin. If you wanna have fun and don't have 100% faceroll, check the opposite end of spectrum.


Exactly how i see D2, the game is so ridiculously easy a 5 year old could beat it with a OP character like a Summoner Necro or Hammerdin. 1-2 hitting everything gets old quickly.

Personally, i never play the game on anything else than /players 8 with an unorthodox build or less powerful build
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Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
July 30 2011 19:16 GMT
#32
Well, just for clearing Hell you need Summon Necro to make you some tanks and all other characters doesn't matter - they have just to cast something and that's OK. Ofc it works better with Barbarian to BC and BO you, since it's unlikely for you to have CtA. And i'd fill all other 6 slots with Sorcs - 2 Meteor, 2 Blizzard and 2 Chain Lightning - it's the most common and usefull setup for quick completing of Hell at the begining of the new ladder in D2. FO sorcs are much worse in this scenario since they need a lot of ubers to be any good; and the best usage of them are Destro Key runs.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
July 30 2011 19:31 GMT
#33
There is a lot of combinations avilable.
If you're playing D2 classic hardcore, I'll suggest necro + paladdin (optimisation of auras)
barb + sorc (bo + good versatility)
barb + barb, barb + necro, barb + paladdin, sorc + pala, sorc + necro also work well. So it's mainly dependent on wich class you like playing, what is more important is the synergies of the spells, try to get some combination of physical + magical damages to not die in hell.

Personal favorite (it's not strong but funny) is bowama + ench sorc. Kinda useless in hell but very funny and efficient in NM.
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
July 30 2011 19:36 GMT
#34
Enchantress + blade fury assassin!

Enchanting assassin who attacks with her 6frameattack. Its super effective!(or fun)
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
July 30 2011 19:55 GMT
#35
Does anyone else here play singleplayer with Plugy?

I'm suddenly super eager to get my hands on some enchantress-gear
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
July 30 2011 20:11 GMT
#36
The obvious answer is a conviction pally + a sorc.
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 20:18:50
July 30 2011 20:14 GMT
#37
On July 30 2011 17:41 sob3k wrote:
Hydrasorc + Holyboltadin

+ Show Spoiler +
im trolling


just dont play summoner necro, sure it rapes hell but you will be too bored to get past NM

I thought hydra got buffed recently. That said, I don't know if it's worth it.

Anyway, I would totally agree with the summoner necro thing myself, but not necessarily force a person not to choose one. Personally I think nothing can be worse in any game than making a summoner character... it's so stupid.

From what I heard summoner necros are imbal as anything (solo hell naked), but I don't understand why anyone would want to play one.
Actually, the same sort of thing applies to a hammerdin. That hammer ability is so stupid and virtually skilless. Just sit in one spot spamming hammer without hardly even aiming.

If you want to own, go necro+ hammerdin. If you want to have a bit more fun, should probably try something else. Realize that a recent update to D3 allows 3 respecs throughout the game, so you can run a fun build at the start, then respec once or twice around hell, to a powerful but bland build, and then save the last respec for emergency.

On July 30 2011 22:34 kaztah wrote:
Conviction paladin and a lightning sorc/lightning javazon/trap assassin. Clears basicly everything no problem and fast. With conviction you don't even need sick gear and it removes most of lightning immunity.

This is a good idea.

On July 31 2011 04:55 caruso wrote:
Does anyone else here play singleplayer with Plugy?

Yes, and I recommend the OP to totally use Pluggy. It's the only way I would play single player
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
July 30 2011 20:18 GMT
#38
Summon Nec + a hammerdin or a fire/cold sorc, ob fireball or just blizzard.

and yeah i read the OP, stating that he wants to play in lan where you won't find anything anyway and no trading, just straightup beating the game with a friend. no uber tristram obviously too.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 20:20:55
July 30 2011 20:20 GMT
#39
use all +skill items you find on your skellymancer. skeletons power up exponentially. there is a world of difference between 20/20 and 30/30 skeletons. you should use curses and corpse explosion a lot. you might consider leveling clay golem for its slow. a blizzard sorc will be really good against bosses because skeletons cant do shit to them if their level is low.
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TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
July 30 2011 20:23 GMT
#40
Well as alot of people have stated, hammerdin is very good, but high level items are going to be very hard to find, and playing a hammerdin is not very fun.


I think the Sorc and barbarian are the easiest to find items for, and rely on their items the least.
I recently just ran through the game with my friend and we found it very easy as a Sorc + Barbarian. At every level you can "reset your stat and skill points" so at first the sorc can be lightning, and chang eto cold etc, and barb can start with maybe spear class barb, into swords or axes or poleaxes etc.
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