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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13074 Posts
December 03 2014 13:32 GMT
#201
I was already using seeds for the first 3 runs just was doing the maggy run wrong.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
December 03 2014 14:19 GMT
#202
seeded runs stop you from earnign achievements though, right?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 03 2014 14:46 GMT
#203
Yeah they do, but unlocking The Lost is a different process. Basically, you just need to see 4 particular death screens in a given order and the game doesn't care how you got them, so you can get them on seeded runs. you can even restart the runs, you just can't see a wrong death screen.
super gg
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13074 Posts
December 03 2014 15:59 GMT
#204
Wow just had my first ever run with the lost and what a run it was.

First item ankh and died on the 3rd floor and respawned as blue baby. Then i found Holy mantle on that floor in the item room.... finished the run without getting hit T_T

IF i only went the other the other way first i would had the sickest lost run lol.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 09:26:23
December 04 2014 08:42 GMT
#205
I don't think I will bother trying to play that character. I was thinking about unlocking, but I don't know if I should bother since I won't like playing him.

My first Eden play my character looked just like what the lost looked like (except with some white hair), and could fly; that was cool. (ended up with an easy run too)
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 04 2014 14:57 GMT
#206
On December 04 2014 00:59 SkelA wrote:
Wow just had my first ever run with the lost and what a run it was.

First item ankh and died on the 3rd floor and respawned as blue baby. Then i found Holy mantle on that floor in the item room.... finished the run without getting hit T_T

IF i only went the other the other way first i would had the sickest lost run lol.

Oh man, that's exactly why I don't even pick up Ankh, Judas's Shadow and Lazarus's Rags as The Lost. It's just gonna piss me off if I end up having a good run, but respawn as a different character and the achievement won't count. :D

The Lost is a bitch. The whole game apart from The Lost took me 100 hours to complete (still haven't seen Black Lotus for some reason, the item seems incredibly rare). Now I'm at 143 hours, the 43 hours I've been playing as The Lost exclusively (by 'playing' I mean holding the R key pretty much) and I still have to beat Boss Rush with him... I was so close a couple of times. I had some insane item setups there, Guppy Brimstone, Brimstone Ludo, Polyphemus Pact Mark Scythes, but I still get hit by something... I think I'm gonna need something retarded like Holy Mantle + Stop Watch + huge damage to do it, or cheese it with Gnawed Leaf + an orbital/familiar...

Also, I had Holy Mantle 5 times in the first item room as The Lost. One time I beat the Chest, the other time I threw by walking into a Blood Donation Machines and THREE FUCKING TIMES Haunt killed me in the first boss room... What a lovely game. :D
super gg
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
December 04 2014 15:19 GMT
#207
Haunt should be a Necropolis boss or even better, not even exist.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
December 05 2014 00:11 GMT
#208
[image loading]
My biggest tears so far.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 10:20:34
December 08 2014 10:09 GMT
#209
On December 05 2014 00:19 kuresuti wrote:
Haunt should be a Necropolis boss or even better, not even exist.

Haunt can be dealt with quite safely as long as you stay away from the sides so that you don't get trapped. As far as I know, using that tactic will make it impossible or extremely unlikely to hit you. For the record an effective way to avoid his burst attack is to remain close to him before the shots can spread out much.
Those haunt minions are the hardest part in my opinion, and those make sense to be a later-game enemy, because I think it may be impossible to not take damage against them if you have no damage upgrades due to them eventually narrowing into your position despite dodging them intentionally (I don't know if this is the case, I haven't tested enough; if I was to guess, it does seem possible to do without taking damage without any damage upgrades)

A big problem with having to deal with haunt is if you have Ludovico technique and no shoot speed upgrades, but aside from that being a rare scenario, there's tons of other enemies and bosses that are also extremely rough with no-shot-speed Ludovico as well.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
December 08 2014 10:55 GMT
#210
My main problem with Haunt is his burst attack. If you get him as your first floor boss, without speed and/or damage upgrades the fight is pretty long and the risk of getting hit with it is pretty high. He fires bursts with no discernible pattern, that's what makes it hard in my opinion. He definitely isn't one of the harder bosses, but compared to first floor stuff like Monstro and Pin, he is on another level. I'm gonna try staying closer to him in the future

As for the ghosts. If you hug walls you can control their movement pretty easily in my experience. Usually if I do that I can get rid of one of the two in the second wave before the situation becomes dangerous but yeah, they are annoying little buggers.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 08 2014 14:40 GMT
#211
Mom's contact is the best items without doubt.

ive always finished the game with it.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 20:19:04
December 08 2014 20:18 GMT
#212
double post
super gg
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 08 2014 20:18 GMT
#213
I fucking did it!!!

[image loading]

Finally got the fucking Boss Rush. Didn't even have an insane run, just regular tears, magic mush, a couple other small damage ups, guppy, 9 lives and a lucky Book of Shadows. The book of shadows probably won me the fight, I used it to kill Monstro 2 and Gish. I'm not ever going to touch that character again. I'm done with The Lost.
super gg
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 21:24:29
December 08 2014 21:23 GMT
#214
Gratz, hardest part of the game done

I have Eden left to clear before starting runs with The Lost, not looking forward to it...

EDIT: Did you beat Mega Satan?
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
December 08 2014 21:27 GMT
#215
On December 09 2014 06:23 kuresuti wrote:
Gratz, hardest part of the game done

I have Eden left to clear before starting runs with The Lost, not looking forward to it...

EDIT: Did you beat Mega Satan?


The only reason to do Mega Satan is for the ending and save file icon...it doesn't get you any unlocks or achievements, so I would think no to Mega Satan as The Lost. no pls.
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
December 08 2014 21:29 GMT
#216
I thought you needed to take him out for Godhead?
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
December 08 2014 21:35 GMT
#217
Oh my god this is simply amazing :D guppy items, monstros lung, the parasite and death's touch basically
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 00:15:40
December 09 2014 00:14 GMT
#218
Luckily you don't have to beat Mega Satan as The Lost. Godhead unlocks after beating moms heart, boss rush, isaac, blue baby, satan and lamb on hard mode. There's no chance in hell I'm doing mega satan as the lost, that just sounds insane. :D Getting the key pieces seems very unlikely, because you're probably taking every devil deal item you come across, so it would probably come down to getting a lucky dad's key.
super gg
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13074 Posts
December 15 2014 12:14 GMT
#219
Never thought i will ever do something with the lost. That character is so unfair , needs some buffs for real.

Just made it to the chest with him , first item holy mantle is great.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 22:13:06
December 16 2014 22:11 GMT
#220


+ Show Spoiler +
This is unreal. 25 minute unseeded Hard Mode Blue Baby kill as The Lost, no Mantle, no Stopwatch, no 9 lives. And it's his first recorded run as The Lost. Like... what?


e: made the post spoiler free
super gg
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