EPTLeague Of Legends going to be added to MLG Raleigh - Page 12
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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VeryAverage
United States424 Posts
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Slayth
United States325 Posts
LoL is not nearly as good as DotA, the only reason its popular is cause its FREE. | ||
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Remz
United States1 Post
Not to mention riot is thinks their playerbase is too dumb to handle unique spells and mechanics, and in a game where everyone says teamwork is the most important aspect of the game why the hell is there no voice chat in game? Another thing is that no gold on death + unlimited mana means you dont have to think as much ingame. No gold lost on death is like if in starcraft whenever your units die you get the mineral and gas refunded. There are a million other things that make LoL a bad game to watch. But at the end of the day its all about money and you can't really blame mlg for being a business. | ||
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MethodSC
United States928 Posts
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On July 11 2011 02:43 MethodSC wrote: Next step for MLG is to add a fightan game and remove black ops. MLG would be HUGE. Yeah!!! Bring back Tekken 6! | ||
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Mastertouch
United States136 Posts
On July 10 2011 16:13 Hakker wrote: Source? According to Xfire LoL is THE most popular pc game in the western world right now. Bigger than wow or cod. Sc2 is actually relatively low on the list. The rest of your post is so retarded it's not even worth mentioning. totally wrong. log into cod mw2, black ops, cod4 on the xbox or ps3. black ops on the xbox averages 500k simultaneous users and mw2 averages 200k simultaneous users. cod is still the most popular. if you dont count angry birds and other small games | ||
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ak1knight
United States313 Posts
On July 11 2011 02:30 VeryAverage wrote: Just fix the scaling first. It's so terrible when characters die INSTANTLY. Team fights can be over in a matter of seconds because of AoE spamming and the terrible ability scaling. They should just scrap the AP system and get with the program. There was a reason you couldn't make spells do twice as much damage by getting items in DotA. Because it breaks the game. This is so ironic because it seems like it is a lot easier to die in HoN. I've heard many HoN players comment saying that you can play a lot more aggressive and reckless in LoL than in HoN because you are a lot less likely to die really fast. In the LoL end game farmed tanks are nearly impossible to kill and everyone else doesn't die any faster than they do in HoN. | ||
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leomon
Canada169 Posts
On July 11 2011 03:53 Mastertouch wrote: totally wrong. log into cod mw2, black ops, cod4 on the xbox or ps3. black ops on the xbox averages 500k simultaneous users and mw2 averages 200k simultaneous users. cod is still the most popular. if you dont count angry birds and other small games Re-read the post again, LoL is the most popularPCgame. LoL isn't even on the console. To be honest though, not everyone uses XFire, so those statistics are actually pretty bias if you ask me. None the less, as a LoL player, I welcome LoL to MLG, even if it's extremely boring to watch | ||
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ak1knight
United States313 Posts
On July 11 2011 03:53 Mastertouch wrote: totally wrong. log into cod mw2, black ops, cod4 on the xbox or ps3. black ops on the xbox averages 500k simultaneous users and mw2 averages 200k simultaneous users. cod is still the most popular. if you dont count angry birds and other small games That may have been the case 6 months ago, but I logged into BO on Friday at 7 ET and there were only 140k people online. Unless I just got on at a weird time I don't see how Black Ops could possibly average 500k online recently. | ||
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Proxity
United States126 Posts
The game was MADE to be an eSport in every aspect. Think of it as LoL teamfights with 100% Skillshots but more fast paced | ||
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JAN0L
Poland207 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On July 11 2011 04:32 JAN0L wrote: with insane numbers of viewers on last DreamHack its a quite obvious choice for them, but on the other hand as much as I like to play LoL myself its just a casual, low-level focused game, adding it instead of DotA is kinda like replacing SC2 for C&C or DOW2 (HoN might be a good competitive game, but graphics are so insanely flashy its impossible to know what is going on unless you play the game yourself) DotA can be very spell heavy too. The main issue for any of these games and viewers who haven't watched it before are good commentators who are exciting, understand a fair amount of the game correctly, and are able to boil it down for new people, and this is sorely needed because I don't know any commentator who can do all 3 of these things well, while in SC1 and SC2 there are many funny and entertaining commentators. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On July 11 2011 04:01 leomon wrote: Re-read the post again, LoL is the most popularPCgame. LoL isn't even on the console. To be honest though, not everyone uses XFire, so those statistics are actually pretty bias if you ask me. None the less, as a LoL player, I welcome LoL to MLG, even if it's extremely boring to watch Someone pointed it out earlier, but Xfire is comparable to Nielson ratings. Yeah, not everyone uses it but it's the most accurate measure we have for gauging how many people play a particular game. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
Scumbag MLG: Host Quake showmatches; add LoL to circuit | ||
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JohnQPublic
United States123 Posts
On July 10 2011 05:32 TheYango wrote: You could oversimplify SC2 the same way--that it's "BW with not as much of a skill req." But SC2 and LoL are much better to sell esports on because they're more accessible, and draw much better viewership/sponsorship. (this is not a personal attack its just something I see talked about a lot and I'd like to put my 2 cents in.) Except, and this is important; from sc2 to bw there isn't too much of a change as where there is less skill needed to play sc2 its skillcap is still so high that no one person will ever play perfectly. From Dota to LoL its such an incredibly simplification of the dota game that skill does not matter as much because there is very little you can do to improve your "position" in the game with raw skill. I can go over the millions of little things you can do in dota to get ahead but honestly there are so many and they are so varied that even after years of playing the genre I am 100% certain that I am not aware of everything and that alone proves my point. I can honestly say that dota's skill cap is entirely unreachable at a personal level, and not only is it unreachable no one yet is even close. There is a player from the Dota/HoN scene known as Chu. He is widely considered the best HoN player even though he isn't even active half the time. For money or other reasons he decided to switch over to LoL for a while and within like a month and a half he was ranked #1 in LoL and held it for a few weeks. I think this basically illustrates my point perfectly, Chu who is great at HON and less so at Dota moves on to LoL for a very limited amount of time and already out skills 99.999% of LoL players. The reverse transition would never happen (and a few people have tried but none of the top LoL players that I'm aware). I just hate to see games that aren't strong competitive titles get positions in the most prestigious tournaments we have to offer in NA as it surely stifles the strong titles from edging in. I can't really imagine MLG picking up HoN after having LoL. TL;DR LoL has no place as a competitive title, just by the fact it requires so little skill to play. Think competitive Tick Tack Toe when chess or go are available. | ||
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JohnQPublic
United States123 Posts
On July 11 2011 00:08 antelope591 wrote: At this point its prolly too late for HoN...its too good a game to be free to play but not good enough to be worth 20$. Maybe cut the price to 5-10$....but with LoL having so much of the player base I don't think it will make a difference. You go on HoN and there's like 10k players compared to like a million for LoL...S2 just got outplayed by Riot on this one. Best thing to do is wait for Dota2. Sort of a myth that HoN doesn't have very many players. They average 250,000 unique players a day with an average of 40k-50k on at a time. I just logged on 10 seconds ago to check and they were at 42,000. | ||
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smallerk
897 Posts
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ak1knight
United States313 Posts
On July 11 2011 05:59 JohnQPublic wrote: There is a player from the Dota/HoN scene known as Chu. He is widely considered the best HoN player even though he isn't even active half the time. For money or other reasons he decided to switch over to LoL for a while and within like a month and a half he was ranked #1 in LoL and held it for a few weeks. I think this basically illustrates my point perfectly, Chu who is great at HON and less so at Dota moves on to LoL for a very limited amount of time and already out skills 99.999% of LoL players. The reverse transition would never happen (and a few people have tried but none of the top LoL players that I'm aware). Great HoN player becomes great LoL player? You don't say! That's like saying SC2 isn't competitive because BW pros like Boxer and July can come over to SC2 and do well. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On July 11 2011 06:09 ak1knight wrote: Great HoN player becomes great LoL player? You don't say! That's like saying SC2 isn't competitive because BW pros like Boxer and July can come over to SC2 and do well. The main point is that the reverse transition is impossible. I have a friend who is 1700 ELO in LoL that gets destroyed in HoN, I played 1v1 mid to practice in both HoN and LoL and I win every time as a mid-high level HoN player. It's a different skillset, I don't know how to explain it, but the lack of deny really lowers the bar in LoL. It is similar to BW -> SC2, however SC2 at least has skill involved at a high level, whereas with the proper guidance any random could play seriously for a month and have the appropriate skill to play on a pro team. | ||
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