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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 18 2012 22:52 GMT
#4281
On July 18 2012 20:12 Neurosis wrote:
Someone experienced with this version of sf4 rate these characters in terms of difficulty to learn. Adon, Ibuki, c viper, and rufus. I mained Sagat back when sf4 originally launched but I'm really wanting to learn one of these rushdown type characters, especially after seeing gamer bee dominate so hard at evo haha. I already realize c viper is probably the hardest to pick up out of these but still.

I'm not experienced at all but but...


Rufus is probably the "easiest" in the sense that he's really really strong in the beginning, vs beginning players and lets you get used to the game a bit more, his playstyle is really straightforward, he can combo into Ultra off anything(comeback king) and his comboes are pretty easy if you get the 1 frame link down. For that I'd suggest learning plinking, it makes 1 frame links far easier.

Plinking = pressing another button 1 frame after the first button, that way it registers the first button twice. So basically you turn a 1 frame link into a 2 frame link, doubling your chances.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 19 2012 00:15 GMT
#4282
FakeSteve AE PC get it and lets run sets!
FADC
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
July 19 2012 02:53 GMT
#4283
Guys is it possible to play with a keyboard? I tried to look at the controls and it's kinda tough to translate them to mapping on the keyboard.

I could get ryu to do shoryuken consistently with down,side,down,side punch. but the hadouken seems to be very random.
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
July 19 2012 03:00 GMT
#4284
On July 19 2012 11:53 dartoo wrote:
Guys is it possible to play with a keyboard? I tried to look at the controls and it's kinda tough to translate them to mapping on the keyboard.

I could get ryu to do shoryuken consistently with down,side,down,side punch. but the hadouken seems to be very random.


I'd highly recommend grabbing a fight stick or at the very least a 360 gamepad. The fighting game genre is one of the few that is by far more enjoyable without mouse/keyboard.
mute20
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada175 Posts
July 19 2012 03:04 GMT
#4285
Bought it during the steam sale. Pretty difficult to link combos together. I have also had a inability to do any down to up moves due to the speed required that does not work with a keyboard layout.
OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
July 19 2012 03:42 GMT
#4286
I really cant FADC
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
July 19 2012 04:42 GMT
#4287
On July 19 2012 12:00 Neurosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 11:53 dartoo wrote:
Guys is it possible to play with a keyboard? I tried to look at the controls and it's kinda tough to translate them to mapping on the keyboard.

I could get ryu to do shoryuken consistently with down,side,down,side punch. but the hadouken seems to be very random.


I'd highly recommend grabbing a fight stick or at the very least a 360 gamepad. The fighting game genre is one of the few that is by far more enjoyable without mouse/keyboard.




Aahh okay, I'll try connecting my ps3 controller to the pc, dont really feel like investing in a fighting stick right now.
clayn
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany444 Posts
July 19 2012 04:52 GMT
#4288
On July 19 2012 13:42 dartoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 12:00 Neurosis wrote:
On July 19 2012 11:53 dartoo wrote:
Guys is it possible to play with a keyboard? I tried to look at the controls and it's kinda tough to translate them to mapping on the keyboard.

I could get ryu to do shoryuken consistently with down,side,down,side punch. but the hadouken seems to be very random.


I'd highly recommend grabbing a fight stick or at the very least a 360 gamepad. The fighting game genre is one of the few that is by far more enjoyable without mouse/keyboard.




Aahh okay, I'll try connecting my ps3 controller to the pc, dont really feel like investing in a fighting stick right now.


The earlier the better because you will have to practice A LOT with it to be accurate with the motions etc.
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
July 19 2012 05:13 GMT
#4289
On July 19 2012 13:42 dartoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 12:00 Neurosis wrote:
On July 19 2012 11:53 dartoo wrote:
Guys is it possible to play with a keyboard? I tried to look at the controls and it's kinda tough to translate them to mapping on the keyboard.

I could get ryu to do shoryuken consistently with down,side,down,side punch. but the hadouken seems to be very random.


I'd highly recommend grabbing a fight stick or at the very least a 360 gamepad. The fighting game genre is one of the few that is by far more enjoyable without mouse/keyboard.




Aahh okay, I'll try connecting my ps3 controller to the pc, dont really feel like investing in a fighting stick right now.
Choice of controls is all about what is comfortable for you. There are guys at Evo who bring keyboard controllers even. I would try your PS3 pad as more people would prefer that to keyboard but if you still like keyboard keep using it. I remember playing on GGPO with my keyboard before I got a stick, it's definitely doable but more people prefer the feel of a stick or pad (including myself).
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 19 2012 06:04 GMT
#4290
http://www.canadianjoysticks.com/qanba-q4-3-in-1-real-arcade-fightstick-xbox360-ps3-pc-comaptible-white-red-version/

Hey is this a good stick? It's on sale and I have the money to buy it :D
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 19 2012 06:06 GMT
#4291
On July 19 2012 15:04 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.canadianjoysticks.com/qanba-q4-3-in-1-real-arcade-fightstick-xbox360-ps3-pc-comaptible-white-red-version/

Hey is this a good stick? It's on sale and I have the money to buy it :D


I have about 227 on-hand to spend and I'm really looking for a good reliable stick without overspending or using up all my funds!
Please link me to specific sticks!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
July 19 2012 06:28 GMT
#4292
On July 18 2012 20:37 YulyaVolkova wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 18 2012 20:12 Neurosis wrote:
Someone experienced with this version of sf4 rate these characters in terms of difficulty to learn. Adon, Ibuki, c viper, and rufus. I mained Sagat back when sf4 originally launched but I'm really wanting to learn one of these rushdown type characters, especially after seeing gamer bee dominate so hard at evo haha. I already realize c viper is probably the hardest to pick up out of these but still.


Rufus seems fairly simple to get down to a reasonable level altho hes probably the rarest character online for whatever reason, so maybe he has problems online *shrug*.


this brings back such bad memories. I mained Rufus from Vanilla to start of Super and online play was the exact reason why I had to drop him. The 1 frame BnB was ridiculous to pull off online, but the worst was divekick. Even with a perfectly placed divekick on the knees of Ken and Ryu, I'd get mashed DP'd for free.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 06:59:22
July 19 2012 06:54 GMT
#4293
On July 19 2012 15:04 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.canadianjoysticks.com/qanba-q4-3-in-1-real-arcade-fightstick-xbox360-ps3-pc-comaptible-white-red-version/

Hey is this a good stick? It's on sale and I have the money to buy it :D

I like them, theyre a little Fisher Price though. Not cheap, just not as beefy as a TE
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 19 2012 07:00 GMT
#4294
What do you mean by beefy?
They're pretty popular here in Montreal
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 19 2012 07:05 GMT
#4295
Well the TE has two rather heavy and unnecessary metal plates in it... its hefty
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Lemstar
Profile Joined October 2010
United States387 Posts
July 19 2012 07:05 GMT
#4296
On July 19 2012 16:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
What do you mean by beefy?
They're pretty popular here in Montreal

It's a little more... hollow.

If you don't need a dual modded stick, you can save a chunk of money buying a TE of some variety. If you do expect to need to play on both PS3 and 360 though, a Q4's probably the easiest way of going about it.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 19 2012 07:19 GMT
#4297
Can you guys link to some other ones?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Lemstar
Profile Joined October 2010
United States387 Posts
July 19 2012 07:28 GMT
#4298
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874104241
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006TC57WO/

Problem is, though, I don't know what the shipping situation is like to Canada.

If you feel like doing some research on the topic, IPW did an article series recently about them:

http://iplaywinner.com/news/2012/6/11/the-last-minute-arcade-stick-buying-guide-day-one-mad-catz.html
http://iplaywinner.com/news/2012/6/12/the-last-minute-arcade-stick-buying-guide-day-two-hori.html
http://iplaywinner.com/news/2012/6/13/the-last-minute-arcade-stick-buying-guide-day-three-qanba-an.html
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 13:57:39
July 19 2012 10:17 GMT
#4299
On July 19 2012 11:53 dartoo wrote:
Guys is it possible to play with a keyboard? I tried to look at the controls and it's kinda tough to translate them to mapping on the keyboard.

I could get ryu to do shoryuken consistently with down,side,down,side punch. but the hadouken seems to be very random.

Keyboard works pretty well for me for now, just pick a character without 360s or Tiger Knees and map your jump to your thumb(generally spacebar)



By the way if the enemy is crouching my Oni blockstring and I Kara a demon to the end of it can they escape it? Or is it impossible to jump in 1 frame if you are crouching? If so my standard blockstring just got pretty scary :3
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
July 19 2012 14:13 GMT
#4300
ya well i have to agree. charakters with easy motions on the stick like ken are surprisingly easy to handle on a keyboard, nontheless i decided to get a stick because i guess the transition only gets harder the longer one waits.

right now im deciding between (german amazon, but i hope article name is enough)
Madcatz Street Fighter X Tekken Pro and
Madcatz TE Round 2

Both should have Sanwa parts, and both can easily be used at the pc right? any opinions on the two sticks?
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