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Imagist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia484 Posts
August 07 2011 06:04 GMT
#2181
shoryuken.com mainly, and eventhubs.com
I enjoy Starcraft when I'm not too busy being dynamic and attractive.
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
August 07 2011 06:05 GMT
#2182
On August 07 2011 15:03 Zlasher wrote:
shoryuken.com


Cheers,
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Shoe555
Profile Joined December 2010
China199 Posts
August 07 2011 06:40 GMT
#2183
Hey guys, I was the other TLer wearing the TL Pro shirt at the SBO Quals today. The event was pretty hype, even though attendance wasn't as strong as expected. Anyone in NYC should definitely come check out Next Level, the guys are friendly and the atmosphere is great, especially on Fridays.

A friend of mine is a professional photographer and was there to document the event. Check them out here.
Life is hard; I often make it needlessly harder on myself.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 06:53:18
August 07 2011 06:52 GMT
#2184
Must be a pretty long drive from China D:

I don't understand the low turnout for an SBO qual, although I suppose the amount of people that can realistically make the tournament isn't that big. That, or now that the US can compete at the top level there's not as much interest in a single elim, single game tournament with no prize money.

Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 09:04:02
August 07 2011 09:03 GMT
#2185
Its pretty easy to see why the turnout is so low...a lot of people that are good enough that have a passport just don't live close enough to justify a trip to NYC since it can be pretty damn far for a lot of people, to put 35 bucks down when there isn't so much of a guarantee. It only really made sense for true NYC locals to show up to it.

With flights from WC to new york costing 500 bucks nowadays its just not justifiable, and for people in say, florida, or midwest its still too much.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
August 07 2011 14:09 GMT
#2186
On August 07 2011 15:52 Trumpet wrote:
Must be a pretty long drive from China D:

I don't understand the low turnout for an SBO qual, although I suppose the amount of people that can realistically make the tournament isn't that big. That, or now that the US can compete at the top level there's not as much interest in a single elim, single game tournament with no prize money.



I would assume a large factor is that a lot of players just don't enjoy playing AE.
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Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 14:19:28
August 07 2011 14:18 GMT
#2187
On August 07 2011 23:09 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 15:52 Trumpet wrote:
Must be a pretty long drive from China D:

I don't understand the low turnout for an SBO qual, although I suppose the amount of people that can realistically make the tournament isn't that big. That, or now that the US can compete at the top level there's not as much interest in a single elim, single game tournament with no prize money.



I would assume a large factor is that a lot of players just don't enjoy playing AE.


Not that large, a lot of the top east coast players actually showed up at the venue, they just didn't play in the tournament (probably mostly because of passport issues). I just wish more had done same as Latif did in the west coast qualifiers, i.e. sign up and play anyways, but give the spot to a runner-up in case you win.
anilusion
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden247 Posts
August 07 2011 14:39 GMT
#2188
So I'm a total noob at this game (bought SSF4 at christmas but never really got into it), just downloaded arcade edition on my 360 and I want to get into it a bit more seriously. I've noticed that the trials only work on SSF4 and not AE? What would you recommend a total noob like me to do to get good at this game? Step by step list? :p
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 07 2011 15:04 GMT
#2189
On August 07 2011 23:39 anilusion wrote:
So I'm a total noob at this game (bought SSF4 at christmas but never really got into it), just downloaded arcade edition on my 360 and I want to get into it a bit more seriously. I've noticed that the trials only work on SSF4 and not AE? What would you recommend a total noob like me to do to get good at this game? Step by step list? :p


Here are some useful tutorials:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TBirdSF4#p/u/8/Qa4GJQFYM1s
http://www.youtube.com/user/mingtongzhi#g/c/2C2A0F3BE74B54F6
http://www.youtube.com/user/VesperArcade#p/c/744144A71C67D816

Then head over there: http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?forums/super-street-fighter-iv-arcade-edition.10/
to pick up some combos for your character.

Be prepared to practice a lot. (training mode) and lose a ton (online). It all looks so easy when you watch pros, but there is so much to learn. I still learn new stuff every day or two. =D
Benecol
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland82 Posts
August 07 2011 15:55 GMT
#2190
On August 07 2011 23:39 anilusion wrote:
So I'm a total noob at this game (bought SSF4 at christmas but never really got into it), just downloaded arcade edition on my 360 and I want to get into it a bit more seriously. I've noticed that the trials only work on SSF4 and not AE? What would you recommend a total noob like me to do to get good at this game? Step by step list? :p


Pick a character and do its trials to get the movelist down. I would also suggest to do other characters trials to get better at execution.

Learn to block. Understand crossups and overheads. After knockdown if opponent jumps, block first high and second lown or if they don't jump usually you want to block low, but be careful of overheads. Crossups hit behind your hitbox so you need to block them in the "wrong" direction.

Learn your characters best poke and try to learn simple combo to get damage of it. Poke in to special is good enough to start with. Poke is a move with good range and is hard to punish.

Then go online and its just trial and error. If you get punished for doing some move you probably dont want to do that anymore. Dont mash srk. If you hit with it its ok and you might wanna do it sometimes, but any player can bait it out from mashers. Dont bunnyhop. Jumping is fast way to get in but use it wisely. Try everything out and see how it works and how it gets punished, also try to use focus attack on different situations. Also learn to use dash.

Try to get in the poke range and land hits with your combo. After knockdown go for crossup and land it again and then you might wanna do empty jumps in to throws to mix it up or just empy jumps to bait shoryuken.

This is some serious noob stuff but its enough to start with. Playing makes you better. Don't be afraid to lose. And i would suggest to go to ranked the competition there is much fairer than in endless
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
August 07 2011 16:40 GMT
#2191
Can someone tell me what does plinking mean? I've don't seem to get it. I only know it involves hitting some other buttons to link your moves and increasing the hit chance
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
August 07 2011 16:42 GMT
#2192
On August 07 2011 18:03 Zlasher wrote:
Its pretty easy to see why the turnout is so low...a lot of people that are good enough that have a passport just don't live close enough to justify a trip to NYC since it can be pretty damn far for a lot of people, to put 35 bucks down when there isn't so much of a guarantee. It only really made sense for true NYC locals to show up to it.

With flights from WC to new york costing 500 bucks nowadays its just not justifiable, and for people in say, florida, or midwest its still too much.


to add to this, even local players such as Sanford didn't participate because the expenses of going to Japan are too high. SBO quals only cover the plane ticket. Food and lodging are not covered. Plus, the current Japanese Yen to US dollar exchange rate is atrocious.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 16:48:05
August 07 2011 16:44 GMT
#2193
On August 08 2011 01:40 Dante08 wrote:
Can someone tell me what does plinking mean? I've don't seem to get it. I only know it involves hitting some other buttons to link your moves and increasing the hit chance




Yes, the purpose of it is to increase your chances of hitting difficult links. it's definitely worth learning if you want to become a strong player.

are you from Singapore? Because you have access to one of the best arcade scenes in the world now.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
August 07 2011 16:59 GMT
#2194
On August 08 2011 01:44 broz0rs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 01:40 Dante08 wrote:
Can someone tell me what does plinking mean? I've don't seem to get it. I only know it involves hitting some other buttons to link your moves and increasing the hit chance


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acuTIlxcjz0

Yes, the purpose of it is to increase your chances of hitting difficult links. it's definitely worth learning if you want to become a strong player.

are you from Singapore? Because you have access to one of the best arcade scenes in the world now.


I've watched that already, gonna watch it until I get it lol. Yea there plenty of AE machines around. Im only gonna go after I get better, bought a stick to practice at home. Doing good so far, man you have to press buttons so quickly this game.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 07 2011 20:50 GMT
#2195
On August 08 2011 01:42 broz0rs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 18:03 Zlasher wrote:
Its pretty easy to see why the turnout is so low...a lot of people that are good enough that have a passport just don't live close enough to justify a trip to NYC since it can be pretty damn far for a lot of people, to put 35 bucks down when there isn't so much of a guarantee. It only really made sense for true NYC locals to show up to it.

With flights from WC to new york costing 500 bucks nowadays its just not justifiable, and for people in say, florida, or midwest its still too much.


to add to this, even local players such as Sanford didn't participate because the expenses of going to Japan are too high. SBO quals only cover the plane ticket. Food and lodging are not covered. Plus, the current Japanese Yen to US dollar exchange rate is atrocious.

Oh I thought that it covered some food and lodging, man this qualifier and henry cen would have been in so much trouble if it weren't for twitchtv sponsoring 1000 dollars
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Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
August 08 2011 00:35 GMT
#2196
I have finally settled on Yang as my main.

During my games I've noticed I feel extremely predictable when I'm trying to approach my enemy. I usually do jumps forward or dive kicks. Does anybody have any recommendations on how to mix it more?
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 08 2011 02:08 GMT
#2197
On August 08 2011 09:35 Lemonayd wrote:
I have finally settled on Yang as my main.

During my games I've noticed I feel extremely predictable when I'm trying to approach my enemy. I usually do jumps forward or dive kicks. Does anybody have any recommendations on how to mix it more?

walk forward

the most underrated move in the game
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 03:39:50
August 08 2011 03:37 GMT
#2198
On August 08 2011 09:35 Lemonayd wrote:
I have finally settled on Yang as my main.

During my games I've noticed I feel extremely predictable when I'm trying to approach my enemy. I usually do jumps forward or dive kicks. Does anybody have any recommendations on how to mix it more?


using dive kicks to pressure an opponent is risky if not spaced properly. a big part of the reason the twins (read: yun) are so good is because of their ability to counter poke.

counter poking is essentially baiting out an opponents normal, be it a crouch tech or footsie, and moving your character in and out of its active hitbox and countering their extended limb with your own normal. players will buffer special moves into their counter poke for a minor option select. if it connects, you got yourself a cr.mk-> lunge punch; if it whiffs, you're relatively nonpunishable if done right. this is what separates yuns like daigo from the norm.

tl;dr - gotta have footsies.
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 03:55:33
August 08 2011 03:52 GMT
#2199
On August 08 2011 01:40 Dante08 wrote:
Can someone tell me what does plinking mean? I've don't seem to get it. I only know it involves hitting some other buttons to link your moves and increasing the hit chance


its based off the game's move priority. go into training, and turn on attack input data.

the premise is this: press a normal. then press a lower priority normal on the next frame.

example: take MP and LP. press them at the same time, which move comes out? MP. MP has higher priority. when plinked properly, the inputs in training should look like this:

x
x
x
LP + MP
MP
x
x
x

and a single MP should have come out.

see how there's two MP's listed? that's a successful plink. you've tricked the game into giving you an additional frame in the link window.

in order to plink a link such as yun's crouching MP -> standing MP, your inputs should look like this:

cr.mp -> s.mp ~ s.lp (on next frame).

you could use any lower priority normal for the plink. i just happen to use the buttons next to the normal i'm plinking 95% of the time. you might notice that it is impossible to plink standing jab. you are correct. standing jab's only link assistance is double tapping (which is a tiny bit harder) because of it being the lowest priority normal.

hope this helps people who are confused by all the terrible tutorials on youtube.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2011 05:35 GMT
#2200
On August 08 2011 11:08 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 09:35 Lemonayd wrote:
I have finally settled on Yang as my main.

During my games I've noticed I feel extremely predictable when I'm trying to approach my enemy. I usually do jumps forward or dive kicks. Does anybody have any recommendations on how to mix it more?

walk forward

the most underrated move in the game


scariest move to do in the game too. lol
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