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LeBroom
Germany67 Posts
Duncan is irreplaceable. Kobe is irreplaceable Paul Pierce / KG / Ray Allen is irreplaceable. Dirk is irreplaceable. There are always new superstars! Jordan would average 35+ points a game in today's league. Orly Mr. Mentalist? | ||
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On June 10 2011 05:10 Tien wrote: As much of a Miami fan I am, Wade can't even touch Jordan. Wade won't repeatedly drop 30+ points in Jordan's hand check era. Jordan would average 35+ points a game in today's league. I think his point was, on this Heat team, Wade has taken on the "Jordan" role and James has taken on the "Pippen" role, both in terms of leadership and general contributions. @Cyric obviously my analysis was very brief and didn't go into a lot of the deeper factors; I was just blowing through each player's respective rookie, sophomore, etc. season and showing that, in context, you still can't say LeBron is even close to Jordan's level. @LeBroom well I think Kobe and Duncan, both being top 10 all-time players, are fairly irreplaceable. Allen/KG/Pierce and Nowitzki, however, as good as they are they're not skill/talent outliers so it wouldn't surprise me if comparably talented and skilled players came along to fill their shoes. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On June 10 2011 04:56 LeBroom wrote: Are you stupid? Do you think the teams will just wait until all their current stars retire? DAL, LAL and BOS will always be contenders and make trades to be that. And SA will keep outsmarting them in the draft  | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On June 10 2011 05:24 LeBroom wrote: There are always new superstars! Orly Mr. Mentalist? And you think you're going to get the #1 draft pick to pick up said stars? And do you think Orlando / Chicago / OKC would ever give up their superstars in a trade? No way. | ||
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
This is sort of unrelated to the conversation going on right now, but I just had to post this. LOL Could voodoo magic be the cause of Dirk's high fever (not that it helped miami win that game, in any event lol)?! And could LBJ's terrible play be caused by Cleveland fans breaking out the LBJ dolls?! Questions, questions... hahahaha | ||
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On June 10 2011 06:12 Z3kk wrote: PFFTT This is sort of unrelated to the conversation going on right now, but I just had to post this. LOL Could voodoo magic be the cause of Dirk's high fever (not that it helped miami win that game, in any event lol)?! And could LBJ's terrible play be caused by Cleveland fans breaking out the LBJ dolls?! Questions, questions... hahahaha oooo boy, that's ridiculous | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
GO MAVS GO! | ||
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BruceLeeToss
United States154 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
The heat still are probably favored to win this series, but anybody who's been predicting individual game results and rationalizing each win is full of crap. Some big factors: Is Haywood going to be back? Is Miami going to have Lebron handle the ball instead of Wade in the 4th? Can Miami solve the Mavericks cutting off the penetrations like they did in the 4th? Can the Mavericks get better defense off turnovers/how many turnovers will Miami force? Can the Mavs get any points off turnovers aside from their half court offense? Do the Mavericks have a plan for Bosh or are they just assuming that they can win no matter what he does? Will either team start using hard screens as a staple play as opposed to plays off timeouts in the 4th quarter? And of course how physical will the refs let them play? | ||
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ketomai
United States2789 Posts
All of these games have been really really close but as a Mavs fan, I will say they are under performing despite being set up really well, and some of it isn't because of the Miami defense. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 10 2011 05:24 LeBroom wrote: There are always new superstars! Orly Mr. Mentalist? Jordan averaged over 35 PPG in some seasons in the old rules, it is fairly obvious that he would do the same in today's league. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On June 10 2011 03:43 JiYan wrote: apparently everyones making offers for ellis now. i recently heard that lakers are offering lamar odom for him. personally, i dont think i would trade monta ellis for anything short of an amazing center or an amazing non-center + they have to take biedrins' contract. If I were the Lakers, I wouldn't trade Odom for Ellis. That's such a bad fit for the Lakers. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 10 2011 07:42 andrewlt wrote: If I were the Lakers, I wouldn't trade Odom for Ellis. That's such a bad fit for the Lakers. Honestly I'm not a fan of Ellis or Odom, but they are about equal worth to most teams. Why anyone thinks they are going to get a lot for ellis I can not understand. A player like odom/boozer is basically all you could expect IMO. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
players without a ring chris webber, reggie miller, dominique wilkins, patrick ewing, john stockton, charles barkley, karl malone, elgin baylor regarding monta ellis, i feel like fans vastly underestimate him. | ||
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On June 10 2011 09:30 JiYan wrote: regarding lebron vs jordan - i dont think rings have anything to do with a player's skill really. you cant say A has 1 ring and B has 6 rings therefore B is 5 rings better than A. players without a ring chris webber, reggie miller, dominique wilkins, patrick ewing, john stockton, charles barkley, karl malone, elgin baylor regarding monta ellis, i feel like fans vastly underestimate him. obviously championships are not a sole measurement of comparison lol. but if you are comparing two players with similar skillsets and career statistics, then yes, rings will be important in determining who takes a higher spot on the all-time great list. i don't think ellis is underrated at all. a volume shooter, good scorer, capable player, not good enough to lead a franchise. that's what he is. people shit on him because he think he is way better than the reality. he once claimed, in all seriousness, that he was a top 3 player in the nba along with kobe and lebron. he's not anywhere near. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4755 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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