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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 17:25:06
December 01 2013 14:39 GMT
#8441
Got Dishonored for $0.40 thanks to a $5 gift card on amazon. Beat it in ~6 hours with minimal exploring after the first half of the game.

Was OK, the gameplay was excellent, but the story was stock, voice acting was iffy,and the powers felt like cheating a lot of the time.

I did forget the worst problem: It gives you 950 interesting ways to kill people, then punishes you for doing it.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
December 01 2013 14:42 GMT
#8442
On December 01 2013 14:00 Sub40APM wrote:
Bought Dishonored, it was entertaining for the 7 bucks I paid for it I guess, but it continues the trend that I really hate in the story-telling-focused stealth-shooters. They are all so freaking short! I realize that the amount of resources devoted to 3d and stuff really takes up a lot of cost but its ridiculous have short these games are compared to something like Baldurs Gate.


It's short because they tried to pack a lot in and try and encourage repeat playthroughs, perhaps focusing on different skills/approaches/difficulties/personal restrictions (like no blink, no killing etc), as well as tons of world building stuff.

There were two things I really didn't like about dishonoured that made the game feel a bit 'meh'. First is that Corvo is just way too strong. Blink + dagger is enough to make the game simple on any difficulty, even on hardest difficulty there's health and mana potions everywhere and the world is littered with really easy ways for corvo to sidestep/murder/escape everyone. Game got pretty hard when the silent blinking assassins showed up and I enjoyed the levels with them since they don't play fair which is good since neither does corvo.

Secondly level exploration to find solutions to problems didn't feel very organic. It's a similar issue I had with Duex Ex Human Revolution, when you market your game about having all these multiple solutions it just means "find a ladder or a vent. There's always a ladder or a vent because this is how they designed their game just keep looking around until you see it". With blink it's worse. And this sucked because the designers crafted a lot of ways to get through obstacles, they crammed a lot into the game.

I'm sure you could apply restrictions to yourself about these sorts of things but I hate doing that. I'd rather the game do that for me under the assumption the designers had balanced it properly for me.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Oldfool
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia394 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 18:16:31
December 01 2013 18:14 GMT
#8443
On December 01 2013 23:42 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 14:00 Sub40APM wrote:
Bought Dishonored, it was entertaining for the 7 bucks I paid for it I guess, but it continues the trend that I really hate in the story-telling-focused stealth-shooters. They are all so freaking short! I realize that the amount of resources devoted to 3d and stuff really takes up a lot of cost but its ridiculous have short these games are compared to something like Baldurs Gate.


It's short because they tried to pack a lot in and try and encourage repeat playthroughs, perhaps focusing on different skills/approaches/difficulties/personal restrictions (like no blink, no killing etc), as well as tons of world building stuff.

There were two things I really didn't like about dishonoured that made the game feel a bit 'meh'. First is that Corvo is just way too strong. Blink + dagger is enough to make the game simple on any difficulty, even on hardest difficulty there's health and mana potions everywhere and the world is littered with really easy ways for corvo to sidestep/murder/escape everyone. Game got pretty hard when the silent blinking assassins showed up and I enjoyed the levels with them since they don't play fair which is good since neither does corvo.

Secondly level exploration to find solutions to problems didn't feel very organic. It's a similar issue I had with Duex Ex Human Revolution, when you market your game about having all these multiple solutions it just means "find a ladder or a vent. There's always a ladder or a vent because this is how they designed their game just keep looking around until you see it". With blink it's worse. And this sucked because the designers crafted a lot of ways to get through obstacles, they crammed a lot into the game.

I'm sure you could apply restrictions to yourself about these sorts of things but I hate doing that. I'd rather the game do that for me under the assumption the designers had balanced it properly for me.

I took my sweet time with Dishonored and had a real blast with some of the kill combos/abilities (simultaneous crossbow headshots with slow time and then blinking away to observe the carnage never got old), was one of the few first-person single player games that I've bothered to finish since Portal 2. Corvo being so strong is really the only downside, and while I do enjoy a challenge I don't mind the occasional almost-god-mode experience.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
December 01 2013 18:33 GMT
#8444
On December 01 2013 19:47 Brett wrote:
What the fuck?

Way too much hate for witcher 2 and ff7 in this thread. You kids have no taste.



ff7 is an old game that didnt age too well. its great but nowadays not exactly what i would recommend people that arent already really into ff.

witcher games are just meh. guess if you can look past the horrible mechanics and pointless running around the storytelling is quite good in witcher 2. but i can totally understand people not liking it. bought it like 14 months ago in a sale and still havent even played through more then 30% cause of its flaws.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 01 2013 18:38 GMT
#8445
On December 01 2013 23:42 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 14:00 Sub40APM wrote:
Bought Dishonored, it was entertaining for the 7 bucks I paid for it I guess, but it continues the trend that I really hate in the story-telling-focused stealth-shooters. They are all so freaking short! I realize that the amount of resources devoted to 3d and stuff really takes up a lot of cost but its ridiculous have short these games are compared to something like Baldurs Gate.


It's short because they tried to pack a lot in and try and encourage repeat playthroughs, perhaps focusing on different skills/approaches/difficulties/personal restrictions (like no blink, no killing etc), as well as tons of world building stuff.

There were two things I really didn't like about dishonoured that made the game feel a bit 'meh'. First is that Corvo is just way too strong. Blink + dagger is enough to make the game simple on any difficulty, even on hardest difficulty there's health and mana potions everywhere and the world is littered with really easy ways for corvo to sidestep/murder/escape everyone. Game got pretty hard when the silent blinking assassins showed up and I enjoyed the levels with them since they don't play fair which is good since neither does corvo.

Secondly level exploration to find solutions to problems didn't feel very organic. It's a similar issue I had with Duex Ex Human Revolution, when you market your game about having all these multiple solutions it just means "find a ladder or a vent. There's always a ladder or a vent because this is how they designed their game just keep looking around until you see it". With blink it's worse. And this sucked because the designers crafted a lot of ways to get through obstacles, they crammed a lot into the game.

I'm sure you could apply restrictions to yourself about these sorts of things but I hate doing that. I'd rather the game do that for me under the assumption the designers had balanced it properly for me.

Yes. excellent description of the overall game. On top of what the guy above you said, the best ending is only possible if you knock out everyone. Even the blinking assassins. And I agree, powers are too OP. Blink is broken. Time warp is even more broken. I think on my playthrough I had 1 actual sword fight.

Which is too bad, because the actual world seemed interesting and it would have been nice to explore it. They re-use the same map for 2 missions and it felt lame to re-sneak into the exact same spot twice.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 01 2013 18:46 GMT
#8446
I got Las Vegas Complete Edition for 12E from Steam. Never played it after I demoed F3 for 2h and uninstalled that shitty Oblivion with guns. But Las Vegas is done by Obsidian and I have higher hopes now.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
December 01 2013 18:54 GMT
#8447
I've never played the Portal series. How much shame do I deserve, and should I fix this?
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
December 01 2013 19:03 GMT
#8448
On December 02 2013 03:54 Eschaton wrote:
I've never played the Portal series. How much shame do I deserve, and should I fix this?

lol...

fix this and buy it asap... both !
n_n
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
December 01 2013 19:04 GMT
#8449
On December 02 2013 04:03 FaCE_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 03:54 Eschaton wrote:
I've never played the Portal series. How much shame do I deserve, and should I fix this?

lol...

fix this and buy it asap... both !

infinite shame for sure.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
December 01 2013 19:09 GMT
#8450
On December 02 2013 03:54 Eschaton wrote:
I've never played the Portal series. How much shame do I deserve, and should I fix this?

Yeah fix this now enjoy the amazing games that they are.
Writer
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
December 01 2013 19:12 GMT
#8451
The Portal series are maybe the games in the highest place in a hypothetical "Games everyone should play" list. There's just no reason not to. They are quick, cheap, acessible, good for both hardcore and casual gamers, great for the dialogue even if you are not the greatest fan of the gameplay, which is still great. Every amazing game has a certain audience it caters to and some people will just not like it, but I have a hard time thinking of a reason why you shouldn't play Portal. Even if you hate puzzle games, just rushing it with a walkthrough maybe be worth it because of the clever writing.
Soltanol
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany55 Posts
December 01 2013 19:12 GMT
#8452
On December 02 2013 03:54 Eschaton wrote:
I've never played the Portal series. How much shame do I deserve, and should I fix this?


Go get them both, just gotta love that humor and the voice acting
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 19:15:38
December 01 2013 19:13 GMT
#8453
On December 02 2013 03:54 Eschaton wrote:
I've never played the Portal series. How much shame do I deserve, and should I fix this?


Not much from me, I played only Portal 2, enjoyed it and it's definetely both a clever game and well made but it was very very short (around 5h) and after that I didn't feel the need to play more of it. Definitely play it at a low price imo.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 19:20:55
December 01 2013 19:17 GMT
#8454
On December 02 2013 03:54 Eschaton wrote:
I've never played the Portal series. How much shame do I deserve, and should I fix this?

People haven't played the Portal series yet...
...
I don't wanna live on this planet anymore

Fix it. Buy the games now! Better late than never
EZ4ENCE
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13079 Posts
December 01 2013 19:19 GMT
#8455
Played portal 1 not to long ago but the game seemed super short, hope portal 2 its better
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
December 01 2013 19:21 GMT
#8456
On December 02 2013 04:19 SkelA wrote:
Played portal 1 not to long ago but the game seemed super short, hope portal 2 its better

Portal 2 is longer and a much better game overall. That being said P1 is also a great game
EZ4ENCE
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
December 01 2013 19:22 GMT
#8457
On December 02 2013 04:19 SkelA wrote:
Played portal 1 not to long ago but the game seemed super short, hope portal 2 its better

It isnt longer but that doesnt make it any less fun.
Plus portal is fun because of everything around the puzzles aswell. You cant stretch something like that for 30 hours and expect it to be as good. Its the perfect length for the type of game imo.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
December 01 2013 19:27 GMT
#8458
Thanks TL, you've shamed me into spending another $6 in this sale. I'm sure I won't regret it.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
December 01 2013 19:32 GMT
#8459
On December 02 2013 03:54 Eschaton wrote:
I've never played the Portal series. How much shame do I deserve, and should I fix this?

I don't care how many people have replied to this already and said practically the same thing. If there's just one game you ever need to play, it's Portal. Portal 2 just follows naturally. It's different and more streamlined, but also much better in some ways.

Portal basically made game designers realize that you can just go "fuck physics" and think outside the box when making a game. And so we have countless games with really awesome concepts these days.

For some reason, it did not make game designers also realize that good writing is an integral part of every game. And so we still have countless games with really awful writing.
CrankOut
Profile Joined November 2013
187 Posts
December 01 2013 19:38 GMT
#8460
Got both Portal1+2 for free from Steam and never played it. Tried 14mins of Portal 1 and was bored, never touched Portal2.
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