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Vaults is a lot more challenging with the guards. Also beware of deep troll earth mages that cast dig and LRD.
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mmhh played some more. dungeon,spider and vaults cleared. vaults 5 was okish with the cleave but shittons of ranged guys ,stupid tengu reavers and mark made it annoying to do. also seems gold dragons are more rare but one of the 2 i killed dropped a hide so all good.
did forest also for the first time. liked the flavor of the last floor (the spriggan fort), spens as enemys were cool and treants interesting. but evrything was too weak at that point to pose a threat ,still spriggans AEs burning down their own forst was fun ~
checing new abyss now. its basicly just dive down and grab rune?
oh also seems like my v:5 was bugged. there were 2 silver runes ~~
/edit fuck abyss. i dont know if the trunk version is bugged but i just wasted way over 1 hour rl time and over 15 k turns (like 7 of them on abyss 5) without the rune. also the permanent "stuff spawns evry 5-10 right next to you" is plain annoying. old abyss you could atleast sometimes reg up, here just more and more stuff spawns out of thin air. pretty much bore/rage quitted, when i continue to play ill just take the next way out. if its not bugged and intended like that then then i dont know what they were thinking. (btw i leveld from 25 1/2 to 27 till i reached abyss 4. so i killed enough to lvl from like 23 to 27 by now.)
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
I never really liked abyss even pre-change, but here's some advice about new abyss: the rune only spawns in abyss 3-5, and rune spawn rate is higher as you go deeper. The monsters are a little harder but mostly infinitely more annoying than old abyss. New abyss is really really easy if you are an ash worshipper of course since you can avoid monsters with ease.
I generally don't go for the abyssal rune, even if i'm going for more than 3 runes. If you're already on abyss 4, you should be able to find exits basically at will.
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Picked this game up and played for a few days, turns out vault 5 is pretty intense ^^
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/onlydeepdwarves/onlydeepdwarves.txt
DDHe, PDA, can cast Haste and LRD, 9/8 elec battleaxe at min delay, defenses are 35/22/0, 39/22/0 when buffed.
I've cleared everything but abyss, tomb, hell branches and pan.
where should I go now? I'm not sure what I can handle, never cleared tomb, any hell or pan runes before.
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onlydeepdwarves the Faith Healer (DDHe) Turns: 75590, Time: 06:50:06
HP 225/225 AC 35 Str 23 XL: 24 Next: 54%
MP 34/34 EV 22 Int 24 God: Elyvilon [*****.]
Gold 2390 SH 0 Dex 19 Spells: 11 memorised, 2 levels left
Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + a - +9,+8 battleaxe (elec)
Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . d - +6 pearl dragon armour
Life Prot.: + + . Conserve : + (no shield)
Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . F - +0 mask of the Dragon {MR+ Acc+3 Dam+3 SIn
Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . k - +1 cloak "Guocix" {rF+ Str+4 Curse}
Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . b - +2 pair of fencer's gloves {EV+3 Dex+3 Acc
Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . W - +2 pair of boots of the Black Moon {Int+2
Res.Rott. : . Flight : . s - amulet of conservation
Saprovore : . . . A - ring "Does" {Hunger- +Blink rC+ MR++ Dex+4
l - +4,+6 ring of slaying
@: non-regenerating, uncannily resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely
unstealthy
A: damage resistance, recharge devices, -10% mp, life protection 1, sense
surroundings 3, poison resistance, slow healing 3, spit poison 1, AC +1
a: Device Recharging, Spit Poison, Lesser Healing, Lesser Self-Healing, Divine
Protection, Purification, Greater Healing, Greater Self-Healing, Divine Vigour,
Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink
}: 4/15 runes: decaying, slimy, silver, gossamer
You are in the Vestibule of Hell.
You worship Elyvilon.
Elyvilon is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and seen 74 of its levels.
You have visited 2 bazaars.
You have also visited: Trove, Ossuary and Ice Cave.
You have collected 8692 gold pieces.
You have spent 6402 gold pieces at shops.
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
You are resistant to damage.
You can recharge devices by infusing magical energy.
You resist negative energy.
You passively map a large area around you.
You do not heal naturally.
You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1).
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
Your system is resistant to poisons.
You can spit poison.
Skills:
* Level 15.0 Fighting
- Level 20.5 Axes
* Level 17.3 Armour
* Level 13.2 Dodging
- Level 5.0 Traps
* Level 8.2 Spellcasting
- Level 15.6 Charms
- Level 4.5 Translocations
* Level 10.6 Earth Magic
O Level 27 Invocations
You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Apportation Tloc ####...... 1% 1 None
b - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None
c - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None
d - Stoneskin Trmt/Erth #####..... 1% 2 None
e - Swiftness Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None
f - Dig Erth ######.. 1% 4 ##.....
g - Control Teleport Chrm/Tloc ######.... 1% 4 ##.....
h - Flight Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 3 None
i - Haste Chrm ######.. 1% 6 ######.
j - Lee's Rapid Deconstr Erth ######.... 3% 5 ####...
k - Iron Shot Conj/Erth #####..... 98% 6 ######.
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (27/27) Temple (0/1) D:4 Orc (4/4) D:7
Elf (3/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
Spider (5/5) Lair:3 Slime (6/6) Lair:8 Vaults (5/5) D:17
Blade (0/1) Vaults:4 Crypt (5/5) Vaults:3 Tomb (0/3) Crypt:2
Dis (0/7) Hell Geh (0/7) Hell Coc (0/7) Hell
Tar (0/7) Hell Zot (5/5) D:27
Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Makhleb
Okawaru
Xom
Yredelemnul
Beogh
Jiyva
Shops:
D:12: [ D:26: + Orc:4: *+[( Elf:1: * Vaults:3: [ Vaults:4: (
Vaults:5: !%?
Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25
Pandemonium: D:21 D:22 D:24
Annotations
D:5 Grinder
D:9 exclusion: door
Vaults:2 Mennas
Zot:5 1 exclusion
Inventory:
Hand weapons
a - a +9,+8 battleaxe of electrocution (weapon)
(You took it off Rupert on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
Armour
b - the +2 pair of fencer's gloves (worn) {EV+3 Dex+3 Acc+8}
(You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
It affects your evasion (+3).
It affects your dexterity (+3).
It affects your accuracy (+8).
d - a +6 pearl dragon armour (worn)
(You found it on level 1 of the Swamp)
k - the +1 cloak "Guocix" (worn) {rF+ Str+4 Curse}
(You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)
It affects your strength (+4).
It protects you from fire.
It may recurse itself.
F - the +0 mask of the Dragon (worn) {MR+ Acc+3 Dam+3 SInv}
(You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
It affects your accuracy (+3).
It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3).
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
It enhances your eyesight.
W - the cursed +2 pair of boots of the Black Moon (worn) {Int+2 Curse}
(You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
It affects your intelligence (+2).
It may recurse itself.
It has a curse placed upon it.
Magical devices
c - a wand of heal wounds (8)
g - a wand of teleportation (6)
(You found it on level 2 of the Crypt)
j - a wand of disintegration (16)
(You found it on level 3 of the Spider Nest)
R - a wand of cold (5)
(You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
Y - a wand of digging (14)
(You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
Comestibles
f - 8 bread rations
M - 3 pieces of ambrosia
Scrolls
e - 4 scrolls of identify {!r!d}
i - 6 scrolls of teleportation {!r!d}
m - 4 scrolls of recharging {!r!d}
p - 2 scrolls of blinking {!r!d}
r - 8 scrolls of remove curse {!r!d}
u - 6 scrolls of fog {!r!d}
x - a scroll of vulnerability {!r!d}
Jewellery
l - a +4,+6 ring of slaying (left hand)
(You found it on level 2 of the Crypt)
q - the ring of the Mage {Wiz MR+ Int+3}
(You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
[ring of wizardry]
It affects your intelligence (+3).
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
s - an amulet of conservation (around neck)
(You found it on level 2 of the Dungeon)
w - the ring "Asisut" {Wiz rF+ Dam+4}
(You found it on level 21 of the Dungeon)
[ring of wizardry]
It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4).
It protects you from fire.
A - the ring "Does" (right hand) {Hunger- +Blink rC+ MR++ Dex+4 SInv}
(You found it on level 2 of the Vaults)
[ring of sustenance]
It affects your dexterity (+4).
It protects you from cold.
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
It enhances your eyesight.
It lets you blink.
Potions
h - 5 potions of brilliance {!q!d}
n - a potion of speed {!q!d}
t - 2 potions of invisibility {!q!d}
z - 6 potions of agility {!q!d}
C - 8 potions of curing {!q!d}
G - a potion of restore abilities {!q!d}
I - 4 potions of magic {!q!d}
J - 6 potions of might {!q!d}
L - 3 potions of resistance {!q!d}
Books
T - Lee's Guide on Attacks
(You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
Spells Type Level
Throw Flame Conjuration/Fire 2
Dazzling Spray Conjuration/Hexes 3
Stone Arrow Conjuration/Earth 3
Iskenderun's Battlesphere Conjuration/Charms 4
Conjure Ball Lightning Conjuration/Air 7
Miscellaneous
o - the horn of Geryon
(You took it off Geryon in the Vestibule of Hell)
Rods
E - a +3 rod of destruction (14/14) {!a!d}
(You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
N - a +9 lightning rod (14/14)
(You found it on level 5 of the Crypt)
Q - a +0 lightning rod (13/13)
(You took it off a centaur warrior on level 13 of the Dungeon)
X - a +4 rod of fiery destruction (9/9) {!a!d}
(You found it in a treasure trove)
Z - a +6 rod of striking (6/6) {!a!d}
(You found it in a treasure trove)
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You should be able to do fine in Pan. Hell is a lot harder, and Tomb can be hard or easy depending on if you know what to expect. Ideally you'd have a holy executioner's axe but it's not necessary. I would go to Pan and take it slow, fight things one at a time. Item spawn is decent in there so it's not like you have to worry about burning all your food.
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
I got a demonic rune then bailed. 5 runes, a new record!
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United States10328 Posts
why is 0.12 so ... weird
vaults seem so scary now wtf
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
0.12 was the patch of making lame parts of the game awesome
I like newabyss
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So I haven't played this game for a long time, and I'm confused now. Does anyone mind typing up a quick "what happened since 0.10.x" or something?
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On September 20 2013 16:32 beef42 wrote:
So I haven't played this game for a long time, and I'm confused now. Does anyone mind typing up a quick "what happened since 0.10.x" or something?
Axes now "cleave" all enemies around you except the tile directly behind you.
Vaults is now only 5 floors deep (final floor basically the same) and has several distinct types of Vault Guard, each with scary powers.
Abyss now has "floors" you can move between using stairs. The rune is only on floors 3-5. Each floor is still infinite, and finding stairs is rare. The deeper you go, the stronger the monsters, and also the more likely you find an exit or rune. Rune starts appearing on Abyss:3. Abyss:1 is still scary for weak players.
Abyss has new, scary monsters.
Conjurers now have a book that has pure conjurations from level 1 through 5, without elemental-schooled conjurations.
Beough and Yred now let you recall dudes across levels.
Vehumet has had a big change. no longer gifts books, but instead "offers" you spells that you can memorize based on your level, aptitudes, and skills trained. Only conjurations, no summoning.
No more Secret Doors.
Summons don't attack outside of your LoS any more.
Stalker and Priest are removed. If you are an orc, whenever you see an Orc Priest you can convert to beogh on the spot.
Berserker can pick starting weapon.
Levitation, controlled flight, and flight are all rolled into one spell now: flight
Sludge Elves are gone
3 new races
>Djinni-- non-living, rf+++, rc-, mp and hp are the same thing, "essence". no hunger, instead get contam from hunger. weird and op.
>Lava orc-- orc of fire. Gets swiftness and burns nearby enemies when in danger. op
>Gargoyle - like a tengu, but Earth and AC. low hp.
No more Traps and Doors skill, game just treats your skill as XL / 3
Contam chunks instead just give 1/2 nutrition, no chance of nausea (yeah!)
Insects can't be pacified any more
Scroll of Unholy Creation replaced with Scroll of Summoning, which casts Shadow Creatures.
I think that's about it
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
Oh, I forgot one thing. 50% of the time now instead of Crypt you get something called Forest which has spriggans and scary stuff in it, but not undead themed. Tomb spawns in there still I'm pretty sure.
lair branches are like this:
>Slime
>one of Swamp or Shoals
>one of Spider or Snake
Shoals is like swamp but beach themed instead of icky themed
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Okay so I went and added the trunk repository to my apt and downloaded trunk. When you start it up it throws a bunch of errors about missing files, also inventory colouring is broken.
does trunk just do this these days or is it confused with old files in ~/.crawl or what do? I guess I can just play stable buuuut...
edit: ...then some guy on irc fixed it so it's okay. Don't bother posting.
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Blazinghand, are the changes you listed after the deletion of sludge elves in the 0.12 or in trunk?
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trunk.
new abyss was biggest pile of shit ive encountered in dcss atleast in my trunk version. monster spawn right next to you evry 5-10 turns and 15k turns (half of them on abyss:5) with no rune.
rest is quite awesome.
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On September 21 2013 01:32 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
trunk.
new abyss was biggest pile of shit ive encountered in dcss atleast in my trunk version. monster spawn right next to you evry 5-10 turns and 15k turns (half of them on abyss:5) with no rune.
rest is quite awesome.
Honestly I think the Abyss is the dumbest design decision in DC:SS, by far. I can't think of anything else less fun, less interesting, and more annoying.
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On September 21 2013 02:08 Yacobs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 01:32 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
trunk.
new abyss was biggest pile of shit ive encountered in dcss atleast in my trunk version. monster spawn right next to you evry 5-10 turns and 15k turns (half of them on abyss:5) with no rune.
rest is quite awesome. Honestly I think the Abyss is the dumbest design decision in DC:SS, by far. I can't think of anything else less fun, less interesting, and more annoying.
Agreed. I would gladly take a "sacrifice 10 max hp" or something just to be able to leave it and not run around for 10 minutes waiting for exit to spawn.
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
I don't think I particularly liked old abyss, which was "tons of fluids, extreme boredom, occasional neqoxec, occasional greater demon"
Although the new abyss monsters seem specifically designed to be as annoying as possible, at least the abyss itself looks nice.
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On September 20 2013 20:51 beef42 wrote:
Okay so I went and added the trunk repository to my apt and downloaded trunk. When you start it up it throws a bunch of errors about missing files, also inventory colouring is broken.
does trunk just do this these days or is it confused with old files in ~/.crawl or what do? I guess I can just play stable buuuut...
edit: ...then some guy on irc fixed it so it's okay. Don't bother posting.
To anyone else with this problem, what happened is this: you are using an old rcfile. Between 0.10 and 0.12 sometime the rcfile got two big changes.
1) The default rcfile became completely blank. No more includes is the big one.
2) Options that used to use "=" to append to a list no longer do. Instead you use "+=" to append or "^=" to prepend. This broke your item colouring since you had an option that used "=" to append and the game instead interprets that as eliminating all item colouring except that one line.
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