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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 17:38:27
December 16 2011 17:34 GMT
#221
On December 17 2011 02:30 myopia wrote:
my +5 speed lajatang has been serving me well, I just really want some more resists. I do have an MR cloak, 200 hp, and 31 ev. maybe Im not as fragile as I think?

Im a red draconian packing wands of lightning, so maybe I shouldnt worry too much about mesmerize.


Wait wtf you have a lajatang of speed and you're considering switching weapons? Lajatang of speed is super good, way better than a falchion of speed. You shouldn't even bother picking up other weapons at this point since they're not going to be better than what you're using.

200 hp and 31 EV is definitely pretty durable, definitely durable enough to win with.

edit: As far as resists go, one level of resistance is 50% damage, and I think 2 is 30% damage (maybe 20%). You don't need more than one level of resistance against anything in a three-rune win, though rF++ against Orbs of Fire is great. But other than Orbs of Fire as long as you're not fighting stuff with serious elemental attacks without any resistance at all you're fine.
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screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
December 17 2011 00:18 GMT
#222
Thanks for making this thread, I would never have known about this game or genre. I'm so bored with how easy and/or shallow all my games are these days, looks like this one will provide some challenging entertainment. Just finished the tutorial and am going to start my first actual character/game. Sounds like Kobold Beserker is an easy character for a first try. Cheers!
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 17 2011 01:51 GMT
#223
Wow, OK, there's a very good chance I'm going to win this game. I steamrolled shoals and vault and have cleared the dungeon all the way to Zot. I'm starting elves now because I STILL don't have a source of rElec, though I've been lvl 27 for at least an hour now (drawing 10+ experience cards will do that). I can kill anything in melee, or with spells, or summons, and even if I got caught out I have so many ways to escape or heal... it's crazy.
it's my first day
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 06:30:35
December 17 2011 06:27 GMT
#224
GG

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/eeviac/morgue-eeviac-20111217-061912.txt

I felt this run was pretty lucky tbh, I'd never even gotten a rune before I made this char. I 'acquired' an early lajatang of speed, then found an amulet of faith, and I was swimming in nemelex decks for the rest of the game. swiftness and blink made the ascension run easy peasy. Also, deflect missiles is OP.

also noteworthy, this game was played entirely on my phone, through connectbot
it's my first day
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 17 2011 06:35 GMT
#225
Grats Myopia! I've gotten a single rune and then died stupidly at least twice, maybe thrice now...
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
December 17 2011 12:21 GMT
#226
Congrats.

Nemelex feels overpowered to me even without an amulet of faith, and even moreso if you do get one. Of course, in Crawl terms, that means you're only "quite likely" to die instead of "almost certain".
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 17 2011 16:07 GMT
#227
Yeah, Nem is insane. The sheer power and flexibility you get just by training evocations, when mages have to pump spellcasting + several other magical schools + invocations if their god requires it. Then you've got skills that casters can only dream of: experience cards, helix for controlling mutations, trowel generating free portals to bazaars/baileys/labyrinths, etc. Faith ups the silliness factor, and makes your log history look like this

63722 | Vault: 7 | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
64087 | Vault: 7 | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
64656 | Vault: 7 | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
65222 | Vault: 8 | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
65346 | Vault: 8 | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh

I was leaving these things on the ground, or heading to some remote corner and burning through them for kicks.
it's my first day
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
December 17 2011 16:14 GMT
#228
On December 17 2011 15:27 myopia wrote:
GG

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/eeviac/morgue-eeviac-20111217-061912.txt

I felt this run was pretty lucky tbh, I'd never even gotten a rune before I made this char. I 'acquired' an early lajatang of speed, then found an amulet of faith, and I was swimming in nemelex decks for the rest of the game. swiftness and blink made the ascension run easy peasy. Also, deflect missiles is OP.

also noteworthy, this game was played entirely on my phone, through connectbot


Congrats!
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 16:16:07
December 17 2011 16:15 GMT
#229
The Knowledge Bots say I can transmute arrows into snakes, but I cannot figure out how. So far, the only snakes I've been able to make are from clubs or something I can equip.

Any help? I feel like I'm asking pre-bronze league questions :'(
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 17 2011 16:18 GMT
#230
On December 18 2011 01:15 danl9rm wrote:
The Knowledge Bots say I can transmute arrows into snakes, but I cannot figure out how. So far, the only snakes I've been able to make are from clubs or something I can equip.

Any help? I feel like I'm asking pre-bronze league questions :'(

You need to equip arrows. On tiles you ctrl+click them, on ascii the hotkey is either W or w. One of them is wear the other one is wield I can never remember which one is which.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 17 2011 16:29 GMT
#231
^which is stupid micro management IMO, you should just be able to target the arrows/club in your inventory. I don't like the spell at all, and always go straight for spider form with my transmuters.
it's my first day
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
December 17 2011 16:32 GMT
#232
Thanks man. I'm a noob and play tiles (!). I tried shift-clicking them but that just throws them on the ground, hah.

I am so bad at this game... I have died, literally, like 40x (i play on 2 different comps), and only ever made it to level 9. To make it worse, I died to a bunch of orcs
I went to the bottom of the Orc mines (I think?) and there was an entire room full of them o.O
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
December 17 2011 16:48 GMT
#233
actually, if you use poisoned arrows for this spell, you get poison snakes that pwn things real good.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
December 17 2011 17:39 GMT
#234
On December 18 2011 01:32 danl9rm wrote:
Thanks man. I'm a noob and play tiles (!). I tried shift-clicking them but that just throws them on the ground, hah.

I am so bad at this game... I have died, literally, like 40x (i play on 2 different comps), and only ever made it to level 9. To make it worse, I died to a bunch of orcs
I went to the bottom of the Orc mines (I think?) and there was an entire room full of them o.O

Don't do Orc right away. It's significantly more dangerous than the dungeon or Lair, and the enemies don't give much experience either. High risk, low reward.
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screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 19:02:15
December 17 2011 18:56 GMT
#235
Did close to a haf-dozen attempts last night, my highest character made it to lvl 10 before getting trampled by an elephant which I think was summoned by a named mage (can't remember the name). Tried wands of polymorph other, paralysis, and a fear scroll, but that was a determined pakiderm TT. :D

A question I have is, on that game I found the sewers, but think I screwed up. I cleared the first (?) level, but went back up through the portal next to where I entered and then the grate was gone and couldn't get back in. Are there more levels and should I have taken a different portal (I'm assuming yes)?
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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 19:29:59
December 17 2011 19:29 GMT
#236
The sewers are a Portal Vault. They're like a bonus little level you get. You can only enter the entrance portal once, so once you leave it you can never go back. They're always handmade, they always contain monsters, they always contain loot. Usually there is an exit portal inside the vault. It does the same as leaving the way you came, but when you see it, you know you've probably seen it all. If you can't find the loot in one of these, search for secret doors.

There are loads of types of these. Some of them will have their entrance disappear if you delay going in long enough.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
December 17 2011 19:37 GMT
#237
Ok thanks, felt like I was missing something, as it was a small level with just some rats and didn't seem like much loot. There were many portals down there so I was afraid I missed something or other levels.
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
December 18 2011 02:42 GMT
#238
Beogh says: Drown the unbelievers in a sea of blood!
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
December 18 2011 09:34 GMT
#239
On December 18 2011 11:42 ZaplinG wrote:
Beogh says: Drown the unbelievers in a sea of blood!


HOPr is so fun
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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
December 18 2011 15:24 GMT
#240
lol, wtf Xom.

Was playing a Merfolk Chaos Knight. Was around level 10 on Lair:1

I see an Agate. I walk over to it. Xom turns it into an Azure Jelly when I'm standing right next to it, and it one-shots me.

lmfao
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