EPTThe articles always paint it as a battle of multimillionaires vs the owners of one of the largest, most profitable business in the history of the world. Yet most players only have short careers and don't make millions every year while the estimated $9 billion in revenues of all 32 combined is behind 200 companies from the US alone.
2011 NFL Offseason/NFL Draft - Page 2
| Forum Index > General Games |
|
andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
The articles always paint it as a battle of multimillionaires vs the owners of one of the largest, most profitable business in the history of the world. Yet most players only have short careers and don't make millions every year while the estimated $9 billion in revenues of all 32 combined is behind 200 companies from the US alone. | ||
|
RogueStatus
266 Posts
| ||
|
turamn
United States1374 Posts
Understand that the money that they are aruging over is a lot of money, but a lot of money to a bunch of guys who already have a ton...give me a break. It's like fighting over the last piece of chicken when you have another bucket in the fridge. I'm sure none of these guys are so desperately poor that they can't afford to live a quality life. | ||
|
QuanticHawk
United States32113 Posts
On February 17 2011 02:47 nemY wrote: I don't get it either. Like I said I hope the 49ers DON'T draft Gabbert or Newton (or any other QB) in the first round this year. Nobody really looks to be worth it, but that said with so many teams NEEDING a QB, I can see QBs like Gabbert/Newton/Mallet/Locker/whoever-else-you-want-to-name being reaches and picked up earlier than maybe they should be drafted. Again it's all speculative though, after the combine we'll get a better idea who where players might fall. oh god please, i dont follow college ball a ton but stay the fuck away from cam newton. he's just big and fast and that looks that much better because he plays in a simple offense that capitalizes on those skills. he's not a bad thrower, but fuuuuuck locker's the only one i cared for but him early would be nutty | ||
|
Signet
United States1718 Posts
http://blog.mises.org/15353/behind-the-lockout-part-i/ http://blog.mises.org/15562/behind-the-lockout-part-ii/ tl;dr version: "The owners overspent on unnecessary stadiums, and now they want the players to work more for less pay to help pay down the debt." "The NFL produces three things: stadium debt, intellectual property, and bureaucracy. None of these things should be confused with 'free market' values. The league is a prime example of what happens when you mix politically influential egos with easy credit and a media environment that largely promotes economic ignorance. You have the perfect boom business." | ||
GTR
51523 Posts
| ||
|
Qatol
United States3165 Posts
A little background: 2 years ago, around the time when they decided to opt out of the current collective bargaining agreement. the NFL owners negotiated/forced a deal with the TV broadcast networks where the networks would pay the NFL less money, but would pay the owners even if there is no football played because of a work stoppage. This deal would have given the owners ~$4 billion this year. Some of the owners were counting on this money to help them pay off expensive mortgages on their stadiums. The Players' Association sued because in the old Collective Bargaining Agreement there was a term which says the NFL will agree to bargain in good faith for the interests of both the owners AND the players. A deal like this helps the owners at the players' expense. As a result of this ruling, the judge is likely to issue an injunction to keep the owners from getting that money. This is important to the fans because now the owners have a bigger motivation to ensure that games are played next season so they continue to make money. Basically, it forces the owners to take the collective bargaining agreement negotiations a lot more seriously and makes it less likely the work stoppage will be quite so drawn out. | ||
|
Tegin
United States840 Posts
As far as the draft is concerned, Dallas should be looking at OL, kicker, and secondary. QB would be the absolute last position I'd be concerned about. If you disagree, you must not have been through the years with Quincy Carter, Chad Hensen and Drew Bledsoe. | ||
|
Quesa
United States304 Posts
On February 15 2011 09:58 FQD1911 wrote:Carolina's getting Fairley (especially now that Rivera's coaching), but i don't know what the "character issues" are. i'm an SEC fan (Univ. of Arkansas alum), so i saw plenty of Auburn ball. Fairley's more of an annoyance than he is Albert Haynesworth...he'll be fine in the league I linked the primary examples that earned him his national rep (especially among the non-Auburn SEC teams), and that video didn't even have the facemask dig. Haynesworth was a 3 year starter at Tennessee, Fairley's a juco transfer with one season as a starter. Fairley has every sign of being one of the 'always the biggest growing up' types, and his lack of motor was on display at the combine, much to my delight. Obviously, the kid is a beast, so the Panthers may still take him, but it's not the slam dunk it was two months ago. | ||
|
nemY
United States3119 Posts
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/articles/2011/03/08/running_back_tiki_barber_plans_to_return_to_nfl/ + Show Spoiler + EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J.—After four years in retirement, former New York Giants running back Tiki Barber is looking to get back into the NFL It won't be with the Giants, though. The Giants acknowledged on Tuesday that the 35-year-old Barber has asked to be taken off the reserve-retirement list and that they will release him once the league allows it. Teams cannot make roster moves during the current extension of the CBA talks. Barber is the Giants' career rushing leader with 10,449 yards, 22nd best in league history. SI.com first reported that Barber filed paperwork with the NFL to end his retirement. "We wish Tiki nothing but the best, and when we are able to make the transaction, we will release him from our reserve-retired list," the Giants said. Barber retired after the 2006 season, the year before the Giants' stunning Super Bowl win over the previously undefeated New England Patriots. He had two years left on his contract when he left the game for a job in television, so the Giants still hold his rights. Barber his second career with NBC fizzled and he did not help himself with New York metropolitan area fans, criticizing coach Tom Coughlin and former teammate Eli Manning, saying the quarterback lacked some leadership skills. Barber was booed by fans this past season when Giants unveiled their ring of honor in their new $1.6 billion stadium. In its report, SI.com said Barber reportedly left his wife of 11 years, Ginny, for 23-year-old Traci Johnson, a former NBC intern. Ginny was eight months pregnant at the time. Soon after, NBC cited its morals clause and terminated Barber's contract, which reportedly paid him more than $300,000 per year. In June 2010, the New York Post reported Barber was broke and couldn't pay his divorce settlement with his ex-wife. TLDR: Tiki Barber is a broke asshole who wants to needs to desperately make some $$$. That's why he's coming back. I loved him when he was a running back (who can't love a guy named "Tiki"?), but from the sounds of it, he's really fucked himself up ALOT since retiring from the NFL. Thought it sucked for him that the Giants won the Super Bowl the year after he retired, but given his current actions, I don't care for him anymore. I wonder if his body can hold up for an entire season... most likely he'll be a backup/3rd down back somewhere (not with the Giants though they've already released him). | ||
|
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
| ||
|
TranceStorm
1616 Posts
At the same time, what team would take him? He's 35 years old and obviously has lost a lot of his former speed and toughness. I think he might stick around in some practice squads but not have much hope in the league itself. | ||
|
sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d81eb8f86/Agree-to-disagree?module=HP_cp2 zzzz push and pull lockout  | ||
|
DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
| ||
Aus.Force
Australia1278 Posts
| ||
|
Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
NFL to be more aggressive with suspensions for illegal hits next season. Rules defining defenseless players expanded to eight categories: • QB in act of throwing • Receiver trying to catch pass • Runner in grasp with forward progress stopped • Player fielding punt or kickoff • Kicker or punter during kick • QB after change of possession • Receiver who receives blind-side block • Player already on ground • Competition committee will propose moving kickoff to 35-yard line, and bringing touchback out to 25. No changes for touchbacks on any other plays, with ball coming out to 20. • No player other than kicker would be allowed to line up more than 5 yards behind ball. • Outlawing wedge on kickoffs; all blocking wedges were reduced to two players in 2009. • Committee will propose making all scoring plays reviewable. Replay official would order replays on any touchdowns, field goals, safeties and extra points without the coaches needing to challenge. Similar to current system for final two minutes of each half and overtime. • Eliminating third coach's challenge if he is successful on first two. There will be no "Calvin Johnson rule" proposal on what is a catch. Those new rules on what constitutes a defenseless player seem like a lot of BS to me. I mean, you already get a penalty for most of those things. Why a suspension? And no changes for the Megatron rule Also those kickoff rules are questionable. They're gonna have like half of the kickoffs be touchbacks, and since you'll get the ball at the 25, it'll just make it easier for offenses : / | ||
|
Qatol
United States3165 Posts
Also, I hate the kickoff changes, but that might just be because it will destroy the strongest asset my Bears have, their special teams. | ||
|
Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
It may also cause a lot less fumbles too, like those times where a QB gets hit and drops the ball, resulting in a review to see if his arm moved forward or not. Also, since you can't hit a QB after a change of possession, it just means that theoretically the QB can go tackle the ball carrier unguarded after picks and stuff. -_- | ||
|
Craton
United States17274 Posts
| ||
|
Signet
United States1718 Posts
I feel like the touchback needs to be consistent. Either keep it at the 20 or move it to the 25 for everything. Not liking the 5 yards behind the ball rule. Don't RBs typically line up 7 yards behind the ball on running plays? (in college this is typically the case; I don't know if it is in the pros) Making them line up closer would give them less speed when they hit the line of scrimmage, furthering the trend toward a more pass-oriented offense. I'm no old school run guy, but if teams are going to go toward more passing, I'd prefer it to be because QBs are getting better or schemes are trending that way, not the rules making it harder to run. | ||
| ||
