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sixfour
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On April 28 2011 14:01 GTR wrote: peterson won't go past arizona at 5. my mock 2.0 1. carolina - cam newton (obvious choice, carolina never has had a 'face' for the franchise, i think newton will be it) 2. denver - marcell dareus (need new dt's for fox's defense. von miller is also another possibility as the defensive line class is pretty deep this year (could possibly get someone like muhammad wilkerson in the second)). 3. bills - von miller (too hard to pass up on such a talent. could also possibly go with peterson, but i think gailey likes miller). 4. bengals - aj green (chad and terrell gone, this one is a no brainer). 5. cardinals - patrick peterson (definitely won't go past them here, most talented player imo in the draft, dual threat in defense and special teams) 6. cleveland - julio jones (mocked quinn here before, but as said above, the d-line class is deep, can't pass up on such a good receiver, shurmur is offensive-minded and jones seems to fit their offense to go help mccoy). 7. 49ers - blaine gabbert (despite smith possibly coming back, i think gabbert will be harbaugh's franchise qb. he's no andrew luck but he will do fine.). 8. titans - nick fairley (while the titans need a qb, it would be a huge reach to go for someone like locker or malett at this spot. they will most likely trade up in the late first to get their guy, whoever it is. fairley is the most logical choice here). 9. cowboys - tyron smith (apparently the cowboys don't like amukamara, but it could be a smokescreen. i might as well mock tyron smith here, the best o-line in the draft, enormous amount of potential). 10. washington - robert quinn (with jones gone, quinn is the best player on the board). If everyone keeps their picks I could see this. However, A) I dont see Gabbart making it past #5 and B) There will be some trades in the top 10 picks this year. There is 0% chance teams pick in this order in the top 10. | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On April 29 2011 02:15 sixfour wrote: top 5 will be as gtr posted except swap miller/dareus. then idk, i can see the skins trading up to take gabbert Southlight 1:16 pm so odds are the skins will trade up to pick gabbert or something like that Friend1:16 pm NO NONONO Southlight 1:16 pm and next year or rather over the next month month(s) we'll see many articles praising shanhan for his gutsiness and praising gabbert's abilities then the redskins go like 6-10 and next year we will see many articles lambasting the redskins' inability to keep draft picks bemoaning the many holes and the lack of picks throughout the years shafting the team's development every year you can be sure of many things the seasons, and the redskins and the sportswriters for the washington post | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
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Southlight
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justle
United States174 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On April 28 2011 14:01 GTR wrote: peterson won't go past arizona at 5. my mock 2.0 1. carolina - cam newton (obvious choice, carolina never has had a 'face' for the franchise, i think newton will be it) 2. denver - marcell dareus (need new dt's for fox's defense. von miller is also another possibility as the defensive line class is pretty deep this year (could possibly get someone like muhammad wilkerson in the second)). 3. bills - von miller (too hard to pass up on such a talent. could also possibly go with peterson, but i think gailey likes miller). 4. bengals - aj green (chad and terrell gone, this one is a no brainer). 5. cardinals - patrick peterson (definitely won't go past them here, most talented player imo in the draft, dual threat in defense and special teams) 6. cleveland - julio jones (mocked quinn here before, but as said above, the d-line class is deep, can't pass up on such a good receiver, shurmur is offensive-minded and jones seems to fit their offense to go help mccoy). 7. 49ers - blaine gabbert (despite smith possibly coming back, i think gabbert will be harbaugh's franchise qb. he's no andrew luck but he will do fine.). 8. titans - nick fairley (while the titans need a qb, it would be a huge reach to go for someone like locker or malett at this spot. they will most likely trade up in the late first to get their guy, whoever it is. fairley is the most logical choice here). 9. cowboys - tyron smith (apparently the cowboys don't like amukamara, but it could be a smokescreen. i might as well mock tyron smith here, the best o-line in the draft, enormous amount of potential). 10. washington - robert quinn (with jones gone, quinn is the best player on the board). Julio Jones at 6 is way too high. He's a good player and well worth a 1st round pick but top 10? There is a significant difference between Jones and players like AJ Green and Calvin Johnson. He's just not as fast - despite his great 40 at the combine. I would not burn the 6th pick overall, unless I'm quite certain he turns into Larry Fitzgerald. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
To build a team, you build from the inside then out. Not to mention you need a top level QB to win a superbowl nowadays. There are some exceptions (Trent Dilfer) but no one has a defense as stacked as that Ravens team was. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On April 29 2011 05:02 Ferrose wrote: Is Eli Manning a top level QB? :x he's certainly above the league average, borderline top 10. he's obv not brady/peyton/brees/rodgers/rivers level etc but he's not dilfer/brad johnson either. i'd certainly rather have him as my qb than campbell, as would half the league | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On April 29 2011 05:10 sixfour wrote: he's certainly above the league average, borderline top 10. he's obv not brady/peyton/brees/rodgers/rivers level etc but he's not dilfer/brad johnson either. i'd certainly rather have him as my qb than campbell, as would half the league I'd say that he's pretty mediocre with very inconsistent results at times. He's got a good team around him which helps out a lot, but sometimes he just plays very poorly. But, he is the NFL's highest paid player :o|. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On April 29 2011 05:02 Ferrose wrote: Is Eli Manning a top level QB? :x I said there were some exceptions. Super Bowl Winning QBs over the past 15 years (not repeating names for multiple wins): Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees Ben Roethlisberger Eli Manning Peyton Manning Tom Brady Brad Johnson Trent Dilfer Kurt Warner John Elway Brett Favre Troy Aikman Steve Young Only a couple of those are not top QBs. Trent Dilfer as stated had one of the all time great defenses. Eli had one of the best D-lines of all time and a reciever make one of the most clutch catches in a super bowl ever. The only other one you *could* argue is Johnson, however, that was his prime (and one of the better qbs at that time) and once again he was supported by an amazing defense. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On April 29 2011 05:13 TranceStorm wrote: I'd say that he's pretty mediocre with very inconsistent results at times. He's got a good team around him which helps out a lot, but sometimes he just plays very poorly. But, he is the NFL's highest paid player :o|. Yeah I think it's more accurate that he is extremely streaky. He can play incredibly well at times (like the playoffs of the 2007-2008 season), but his passer rating was only 0.8 better than Campbell last season. | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On April 29 2011 05:13 TranceStorm wrote: I'd say that he's pretty mediocre with very inconsistent results at times. He's got a good team around him which helps out a lot, but sometimes he just plays very poorly. But, he is the NFL's highest paid player :o|. he's had six straight 3k+ yard seasons with over 20td's, most people would be rather happy with that. threw a lot of picks last season, but i think that's an outlier and he's shown solid progression over the last few seasons. obv it helps that he has had a solid o-line and good running game, never really had an elite receiving unit either (plax was nice, smith is nice but is really a possession receiver, nicks looks legit now but he's also had to work with the corpse of amani toomer, recently manningham as hixon is on the shelf) | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32161 Posts
On April 28 2011 11:11 nemY wrote: Waaahh draft is tomorrow, niners pls don't draft Lame Gabbert. Peterson pretty pretty pls. You'll be in love with him whenever they start playing again. This team needs a goddamn qb for once to make up for the talent that is everywhere else. THINK OF FRANK GORE!!!!! Peterson also won't make it that far. I'm not sure Gabbart will either necessarily. I'm banking on Carolina taking Newton and basically hoping that the Bills and Bengals pass. Eh, Arizona too. But at least those teams have many other holes to fill in addition to QB. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On April 29 2011 05:48 darmousseh wrote: I played baseball and went to church with Colin Kapernick. I'm really hoping he gets picked up by SF 9ers. aside from the raiders trading up rumours, seahawks are supposedly in love with him as well | ||
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