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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 19:01:22
October 14 2011 18:58 GMT
#461
On October 15 2011 03:22 7mk wrote:
ok cool, the way i read about it it seemed like it was sth that would just inevitably happen to everyone ^^
a question about offering others to be summoned:
where do i put the summon stone, infront of where the white door thingy leading to the boss is or behind?

You can't put it behind, it won't allow you. Just put it anywhere that it would allow you, in areas that you think people will be more likely to see your sign.

On October 15 2011 03:22 7mk wrote:
And I know that for someone to summon you or an NPC he has to be human, but what about being summoned.. thats possible even if youre undead, right?

Yes

On October 15 2011 03:22 7mk wrote:
And what happens if I should die while helping someone?
Do I still lose souls and humanity? how do I recover them if I do?

Yes, you lose souls and humanity, and you get sent back to your own world. You recover it the same way your normally do. Just go back to the spot you died.

On October 15 2011 03:22 7mk wrote:
i feel like some curious child, asking his parents a billion questions lol

Go ask mom if you want to know how you were made.

On October 15 2011 03:22 7mk wrote:
Another question:
How do I sell items or get rid of them otherwise, havent seen a sell option on any merchants yet

You can sell items later in the game. You can google this if you don't mind spoilers.

On October 15 2011 03:22 7mk wrote:
OOH ANOTHER ONE:
if I go to Oswald and choose abandon covenant, and then join another one, does that count as betraying the first one?

Of course.
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
October 14 2011 19:39 GMT
#462
Tomb of the giants, y u so dark?
I <3 Plexa.
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
October 14 2011 19:40 GMT
#463
On October 15 2011 03:09 Back wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 03:03 7mk wrote:
so one question, how does it work with the curse.. once you get cured from it, is it possible to just get cured again, if you face again whatever enemy does it to you?


You can get cursed again by the same mobs after having cured yourself. And if you are cursed and get cursed again your life total is reduced again by half. I'm almost 100% sure a single cure will remove multiple stacked cursed at least.


Are you sure that curses stack in reducing your health? I never got cursed in the depths, but I died to Seeth's curse once, went back without curing, died to curse while already cursed, but just stayed at normal half health, not 25%.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 14 2011 19:40 GMT
#464
On October 15 2011 04:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Tomb of the giants, y u so dark?


Abuse your TV settings or use Cast Light
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
October 14 2011 19:41 GMT
#465
On October 15 2011 04:40 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Tomb of the giants, y u so dark?


Abuse your TV settings or use Cast Light
Magic/miracles etc etc is for little girls, I'm melee exclusively.
I <3 Plexa.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 14 2011 19:41 GMT
#466
On October 15 2011 04:40 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 03:09 Back wrote:
On October 15 2011 03:03 7mk wrote:
so one question, how does it work with the curse.. once you get cured from it, is it possible to just get cured again, if you face again whatever enemy does it to you?


You can get cursed again by the same mobs after having cured yourself. And if you are cursed and get cursed again your life total is reduced again by half. I'm almost 100% sure a single cure will remove multiple stacked cursed at least.


Are you sure that curses stack in reducing your health? I never got cursed in the depths, but I died to Seeth's curse once, went back without curing, died to curse while already cursed, but just stayed at normal half health, not 25%.


Yes it does. Stacks up to 1/8th of your original health.

Source
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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 14 2011 19:42 GMT
#467
On October 15 2011 04:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:40 Fishball wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Tomb of the giants, y u so dark?


Abuse your TV settings or use Cast Light
Magic/miracles etc etc is for little girls, I'm melee exclusively.


Then your path is clear. Abuse that TV!
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dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
October 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#468
On October 15 2011 04:41 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:40 dormer wrote:
On October 15 2011 03:09 Back wrote:
On October 15 2011 03:03 7mk wrote:
so one question, how does it work with the curse.. once you get cured from it, is it possible to just get cured again, if you face again whatever enemy does it to you?


You can get cursed again by the same mobs after having cured yourself. And if you are cursed and get cursed again your life total is reduced again by half. I'm almost 100% sure a single cure will remove multiple stacked cursed at least.


Are you sure that curses stack in reducing your health? I never got cursed in the depths, but I died to Seeth's curse once, went back without curing, died to curse while already cursed, but just stayed at normal half health, not 25%.


Yes it does. Stacks up to 1/8th of your original health.

Source


That was my point, though -- the curse from Seeth didn't stack, so it apparently depends on the mob? The note on the bottom of the wiki link says "On the xbox version, with the latest update, the curse from the frogs in The Great Hollow will not stack," which just leaves the frogs in the depths, I guess?
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:28:27
October 14 2011 20:25 GMT
#469
On October 15 2011 05:18 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:41 Fishball wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:40 dormer wrote:
On October 15 2011 03:09 Back wrote:
On October 15 2011 03:03 7mk wrote:
so one question, how does it work with the curse.. once you get cured from it, is it possible to just get cured again, if you face again whatever enemy does it to you?


You can get cursed again by the same mobs after having cured yourself. And if you are cursed and get cursed again your life total is reduced again by half. I'm almost 100% sure a single cure will remove multiple stacked cursed at least.


Are you sure that curses stack in reducing your health? I never got cursed in the depths, but I died to Seeth's curse once, went back without curing, died to curse while already cursed, but just stayed at normal half health, not 25%.


Yes it does. Stacks up to 1/8th of your original health.

Source


That was my point, though -- the curse from Seeth didn't stack, so it apparently depends on the mob? The note on the bottom of the wiki link says "On the xbox version, with the latest update, the curse from the frogs in The Great Hollow will not stack," which just leaves the frogs in the depths, I guess?


Hmm, that I'm not sure. I only got the curse from Seeth once, and was smart enough to not get it twice. The curse from the frogs in the Depths indeed stack, sources coming from a lot of players. The Great Hollow I'm not too sure, but I'd trust the wiki page.
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:29:38
October 14 2011 20:27 GMT
#470
HOW DO YOU KILL THE GARGOYLES. ITS VERY EASY UP UNTIL HALF HP THEN ANOTHER ONE COMES AND THEY START gangbanging you with flamethrowers while the other one is hitting you HARD. IF ANYTHING HITS ME I DIE 100%. I've seriously tried it over 50 times last 10 hours or something. It's fucking impossible.
The gargoyle in the first game was also hard, but if you killed it fast you could fight them separate. Now, it's like two bosses raping you from different angles at the same time.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:33:04
October 14 2011 20:32 GMT
#471
On October 15 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:
HOW DO YOU KILL THE GARGOYLES. ITS VERY EASY UP UNTIL HALF HP THEN ANOTHER ONE COMES AND THEY START gangbanging you with flamethrowers while the other one is hitting you HARD. IF ANYTHING HITS ME I DIE 100%. I've seriously tried it over 50 times last 10 hours or something. It's fucking impossible.


Playing as melee, what worked for me was to attack the first gargoyle's tail until it falls off -- that should give you a point of humanity after you die and respawn (seems odd, but it did for me, so should work unless it was patched). With the humanity you can revive, then summon the NPC knight right before the boss door to help you. That way you should be able to get a point of humanity every time so you can keep summoning the knight to help you. Once the second gargoyle comes down the knight should keep at least one of them busy enough to give you some room. Of course, you also have to be doing enough damage to kill them before the knight gets killed and they both get on you.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:36:19
October 14 2011 20:34 GMT
#472
On October 15 2011 05:27 Shauni wrote:
HOW DO YOU KILL THE GARGOYLES. ITS VERY EASY UP UNTIL HALF HP THEN ANOTHER ONE COMES AND THEY START gangbanging you with flamethrowers while the other one is hitting you HARD. IF ANYTHING HITS ME I DIE 100%. I've seriously tried it over 50 times last 10 hours or something. It's fucking impossible.


Do one of the following or combination:
- Play a Mage. The entire fight lasted 30 seconds for me and I never even got hit.
- Summon Solaire of Astora (NPC that gave you the white stone), and Knight Lautrec of Carim (NPC locked in the same church right before you fight the boss).
- Apply Gold Pine Resin to your weapon. The Gargoyle(s) are weak to lightning.
- Summon other players to help you.

Basically if you're using a regular weapon (as in not a Drake Sword or higher at this point), and refuse to do any of the points listed above and go in solo, unless you're godly with the controls, you're going to have a rough ride.
靈魂交響曲
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 14 2011 20:37 GMT
#473
Wait, you can summon knights to help you? how exactly? and does it only work in human form?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:49:47
October 14 2011 20:48 GMT
#474
On October 15 2011 05:37 Shauni wrote:
Wait, you can summon knights to help you? how exactly? and does it only work in human form?


Yes, same as Demon Souls. You can summon players to help you only when you're in human form. Same for NPC's. I thought you already knew about this.

Here is a detailed guide.
http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Bell Gargoyle

靈魂交響曲
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
October 14 2011 20:54 GMT
#475
One thing that could help is to get the first one down until he's just barely above 50%, back and make sure you have full health/stamina, and go all out. You should be able to have him dead or very close by the time the 2nd one engages you because it takes a bit of time for the 2nd one to actually join in once the first hits 50% health.

Aside from that, run from one end of the chapel to the other. If one is breathing flames and the other is trying to melee you, you will separate them and give you an easy target. If they both melee you, you'll just have to dodge and take it, and if they both are breathing flames you'll either get a blindspot to hit them from or a chance to heal.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 21:41:38
October 14 2011 21:40 GMT
#476
On October 15 2011 05:48 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:37 Shauni wrote:
Wait, you can summon knights to help you? how exactly? and does it only work in human form?


Yes, same as Demon Souls. You can summon players to help you only when you're in human form. Same for NPC's. I thought you already knew about this.

Here is a detailed guide.
http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Bell Gargoyle



Why would I know this? Ive only been in human form for a matter of seconds at most lol. So when you're in human form you see some kind of signs before bosses that will make you be able to summon those knights? Did that exist in Demon's Souls too?

I mean obviously I knew about summoning other players and so forth, but had no idea about that.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 14 2011 21:48 GMT
#477
On October 15 2011 06:40 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:48 Fishball wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:37 Shauni wrote:
Wait, you can summon knights to help you? how exactly? and does it only work in human form?


Yes, same as Demon Souls. You can summon players to help you only when you're in human form. Same for NPC's. I thought you already knew about this.

Here is a detailed guide.
http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Bell Gargoyle



Why would I know this? Ive only been in human form for a matter of seconds at most lol. So when you're in human form you see some kind of signs before bosses that will make you be able to summon those knights? Did that exist in Demon's Souls too?

I mean obviously I knew about summoning other players and so forth, but had no idea about that.


I thought you didn't know you can summon players in general. You can't summon NPC's in Demon Souls. This is new for Dark Souls.

I personally google around and read those two main Dark Souls wiki sites, and have watched IGN 24 hours live stream before launch.

Whether you can summon NPC's for every boss or not, I'm not sure, so you'll have to check. But to answer your question, yes, you have to be in human form to summon anything in general.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 21:58:45
October 14 2011 21:57 GMT
#478
On October 15 2011 06:40 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:48 Fishball wrote:
On October 15 2011 05:37 Shauni wrote:
Wait, you can summon knights to help you? how exactly? and does it only work in human form?


Yes, same as Demon Souls. You can summon players to help you only when you're in human form. Same for NPC's. I thought you already knew about this.

Here is a detailed guide.
http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Bell Gargoyle



Why would I know this? Ive only been in human form for a matter of seconds at most lol. So when you're in human form you see some kind of signs before bosses that will make you be able to summon those knights? Did that exist in Demon's Souls too?

I mean obviously I knew about summoning other players and so forth, but had no idea about that.


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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
October 14 2011 22:10 GMT
#479
I'm nearing the end of the Depths. How hard is the Gaping Dragon? Oh and I have the Drake's Sword for now, is there another really shield/Sword I should invest in getting anywhere close to where I am? Oh and I never got any magic except miracles, where do I get Pyro :/ ? I'm a Knight btw.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
October 14 2011 22:40 GMT
#480
Gaping Dragon is shockingly easy, despite his rather unfriendly appearance.
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