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Dark Souls(Spiritual Successor of Demons Souls) - Page 22

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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
October 13 2011 22:12 GMT
#421
I just reached the Capra Demon. That guy just smashed me. I'm level 20 now, with the Drake Sword. Stopped for the day, any tips on how to beat him? Specially his dogs, they are the main problem.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 13 2011 22:19 GMT
#422
When you start sprint towards the staircase. As he swings roll up it. The two dogs should come up (unless he blocks it, luck dependent) after you kill the two dogs it's a fairly easy fight. You can either roll around on the ground hitting him between strikes. Or go up the staircase letting him chase you then roll off and he'll fall allowing you a few free swings.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
October 13 2011 22:26 GMT
#423
On October 12 2011 08:25 antelope591 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 07:29 Shiladie wrote:
I never played Demons' souls, but from reading a few pages of this post, I'm intrigued. I really enjoyed Ninja Gaiden for the XBox because of how difficult it was and how precise you had to be with your combat at the higher difficulties. I also love the aspect of new game+ with scaling difficulty (like jade empire's jade master mode)

My question would be, how hard is it actually? I ask because these kinds of games have gotten beyond simple for people willing to create an optimal build, and I'm wondering if the claims of difficulty come from this newer gaming generation.


Ive beaten ninja gaiden and ng2 on master ninja. This game is at least on the same level difficulty wise the first time through. Of course unlike ng you dont depend as much on skill and a lot of the difficulty comes from going in blind. If you were to plan out an optimal route and look up boss strats ahead of time it would make it a lot easier. So I would suggest going at it without doing that. Im about halfway through the game and so far Ive died a similar amount as going through master ninja. The games are similar in the way that you have to do a lot of trial and error and dying to get through sections from one save to another.


Exactly what I was looking for, thank you, I may pick this up. I'm just getting fairly loaded up with games right now...
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
October 13 2011 22:27 GMT
#424
Do I just immediately sprint to the stairs as soon as the fight starts or do I block and then try to Sprint?
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 13 2011 22:41 GMT
#425
Run straight for the stairs. Unless you have an extreme amount of endurance any sort of blocking is going to completely drain it, slam you into the floor and probably take out around 50% of your health.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
October 13 2011 22:58 GMT
#426
Are you playing online Dragoon? You could leave your summon stone so people can get you and earn some humanity and then summon people to help you. Capra ain't bad, those dogs are.
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 13 2011 23:54 GMT
#427
Lol I dont understand the AI. After killing the boar I opened up the gate when I went around with that lever. A shortcut, right? But those pesky zombies keep closing it when I try to get back from dying, so I constantly have to go around it. AHHgh so frustrating.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 14 2011 00:01 GMT
#428
Hint hint: If you go to the right instead of opening the gate there will be a bridge leading to an area with three more hollowed. Take a right after you kill them and there's a bonfire. Then you wont ever have to worry about opening the gate because you'll spawn behind it.
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
October 14 2011 00:01 GMT
#429
On October 14 2011 08:54 Shauni wrote:
Lol I dont understand the AI. After killing the boar I opened up the gate when I went around with that lever. A shortcut, right? But those pesky zombies keep closing it when I try to get back from dying, so I constantly have to go around it. AHHgh so frustrating.

Use the elevator bro. It's in the chruch.
Wishing you well.
Mistapibb
Profile Joined August 2010
United States78 Posts
October 14 2011 00:11 GMT
#430
Is it possible to run through the game with another person? I'm wondering if i can do some coop with a friend from the beginning
It's Moldy
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 00:27:25
October 14 2011 00:25 GMT
#431
Sooo, Ive finally played this game some, I'm like a lvl 16 warrior, just defeated a big black mace knight for the first time and got to the bonfire in Undead parish near the blacksmith.

Can someone tell me whats a good build for a warrior?
So far ive boosted a little vitality, a little dexterity, strength to 16 (min req for drake sword) and quite a bit of endurance, so that I still have just below 50% ..of whatever its called, you know what i mean ^^

I wouldnt mind making this dude someone who also uses some magic or pyro from time to time, though I havent even learned a single miracle/magic/pyro spell yet. (I just found out about the guy who you can buy magic spells from after you free him in Undead Burg).
Or does this not make sense? Would a pure warrior with just tons of strength and vitality without any intelligence be stronger?


Also, how do I get summoned by others to help them and from about which lvl onwards does that make sense?
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
October 14 2011 00:53 GMT
#432
Well after finishing it (for the first of probably a few times) I can definitively say this game lived up to the hype. I was worried they wouldnt capture what made Demon's Souls so awesome but amazingly they surpassed it in almost every way. I still have my worries about how end game PvP will shake out in the end, but overall id say this is easily one of the best console games I've ever played. If it wasnt for Demon's Souls and this game buying a PS3 would have been the biggest waste of money in my life.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 14 2011 01:05 GMT
#433
PvP in the forest area is pretty terrible. It's all twinks with fog ring/lightning spear/that one spell that slows you down to a turtles pace. Or people running with full havoks and having their dex based friend come from the other side and get you while you're trying to kill him.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 14 2011 02:20 GMT
#434
wow just tried to get into my friend's game and after half an hr of fruitlessly searching, i go and read about the dark souls co-op system. rofl so gay
Forever Young
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 14 2011 02:26 GMT
#435
On October 14 2011 11:20 sung_moon wrote:
wow just tried to get into my friend's game and after half an hr of fruitlessly searching, i go and read about the dark souls co-op system. rofl so gay


I think it's a good thing. I like co op games too, but in Demon's/Dark Souls the atmosphere is heightened by uncertainty. You shouldn't know what kind of guy calling you to his world and you don't know when somebody is going to invade you. Plus constantly playing co op with a friend would just make it too easy.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 14 2011 02:37 GMT
#436
I've read a lot about the co-op system in the past hour or so. Basically when you start the game you're in a lobby (like a battlegroup in WoW or whatever). When you drop the summon sign it starts in your lobby and if no one picks it up it starts to cycle through other lobbies. So really all you need is patience. If you and your friend are both in human form and in the same exact place the sign will appear. Just wait.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 03:26:32
October 14 2011 03:05 GMT
#437
On October 14 2011 09:25 7mk wrote:
Sooo, Ive finally played this game some, I'm like a lvl 16 warrior, just defeated a big black mace knight for the first time and got to the bonfire in Undead parish near the blacksmith.

Can someone tell me whats a good build for a warrior?
So far ive boosted a little vitality, a little dexterity, strength to 16 (min req for drake sword) and quite a bit of endurance, so that I still have just below 50% ..of whatever its called, you know what i mean ^^

I wouldnt mind making this dude someone who also uses some magic or pyro from time to time, though I havent even learned a single miracle/magic/pyro spell yet. (I just found out about the guy who you can buy magic spells from after you free him in Undead Burg).
Or does this not make sense? Would a pure warrior with just tons of strength and vitality without any intelligence be stronger?


Also, how do I get summoned by others to help them and from about which lvl onwards does that make sense?


Pyromancer spells do not depend on Intelligence for damage. It is instead, dependent on the level of the spell casting tool, "Pyromancy Flame". So basically, a "pure warrior" can also cast very high damage fire spells. This system is somewhat odd I know. The first ever PvP encounter I had in this game, was with a blue phantom who was helping me out on a level; A black warrior phantom invaded, and was able to kill us both. He had tons of health as a warrior, and he killed us with fire spells up close that hurt a ton.

I suggest you have enough Strength/Dexterity for the weapon and shield you plan to use. Getting "powerful weapons" isn't necessarily required, especially early on. An upgraded Drake Sword will carry you for quite a while. Endurance should hit 40 as soon as possible. At 40 Endurance, your stamina bar will be at max and will no longer grow. Any extra points in Endurance will only allow you to wear heavier armor while being able to run and roll "at ease". Rule of thumb, your current Equip Load should never be over 50% of your maximum Equip Load, or your movements will be hindered. Getting high Endurance basically grants you a much better chance of survival due to a larger stamina bar and the ability to wear better armor while remaining nimble at the same time.

Vitality is also important, a stat which is self explanatory.

In a nutshell, this is what I would do.
- Invest Strength/Dexterity whenever weapon/shield requires
- Try to have Endurance reach 40 early. Between Endurance and Vitality, I'd probably give it a 2:1 ratio or even 3:1, depending how good you are and how you play.

Keep in mind, this is just an indicator for early game. Eventually you'll want to max them all of course.


As for a Mage build, I'll just make it short and summarize the path I'm currently heading towards.
Intelligence 99
Attunement 50
Endurance 40
Strength/Dexterity to whatever is required based on what I want to use.
Vitality 99

Both builds basically follows the same logic I did in Demon Souls, even though there are some differences in the systems (eg. Pyromancy). It's all slowly creeping back to me

靈魂交響曲
Mitsuwa
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
October 14 2011 04:17 GMT
#438
Oh god i accidentally hit a merchant because she looked like a ghoul.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 04:42:02
October 14 2011 04:40 GMT
#439
To those who just started the game (or everyone really), I thought I'd share this. There is a "best class" to start with, depending on your goal with stats. Some classes will achieve those goals faster than other classes.

http://sites.google.com/site/darksoulstats/dark-souls-calculators/class-select

Anyways, I just made a level 1 Bandit, since I'm so god damn lonely with my Mage and I just want to play with someone
靈魂交響曲
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
October 14 2011 05:23 GMT
#440
On October 14 2011 04:59 Scribble wrote:Anyway, I'm working on the New Londo Ruins now, but I don't have any transient curses left. Do I have to go back to the sewers to get cursed so I can keep going, or is there a better way?


You can buy the temporary curse item from the moss vendor in the waterway between Firelink and the Undead Burg for a few thousand souls; get a few if you can, they last a fair while and the ghosts will sometimes drop two of them, but if you run out in the middle it's a pain. I could usually clear all the ghosts with one or two stones, but it depends.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
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