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ydeer93
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom66 Posts
October 15 2011 14:26 GMT
#501
ok so i got the pyromancy from the guy in firelink, but when i try use it i just shake my hand and nothing happens, is there something else i need i have some combustion in my bag but when i try press use item nothing happens?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 15 2011 14:55 GMT
#502
On October 15 2011 11:42 Cel.erity wrote:
Sorry for the noob question, but what exactly is the difference between classes besides their starting stats/gear? Is there any difference in attacks, or equipment they can wear, or skills they can learn? The progression seems pretty nonlinear.


lol just wanna comment when i first touch demon souls. thought game was gonna be like d2-ish with more co-op partying system so my first character in these type of games/mmo's i always go healer type characters first (priest). man was i surprised when i got dark silver set+meat cleaver/LSoM. my dude looked like hakumen

but yea almost any of the characters can progress the same way/learn the same spells/use teh same equipment more or less
Forever Young
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
October 15 2011 16:05 GMT
#503
On October 15 2011 23:26 ydeer93 wrote:
ok so i got the pyromancy from the guy in firelink, but when i try use it i just shake my hand and nothing happens, is there something else i need i have some combustion in my bag but when i try press use item nothing happens?


You have to attune magic and put it in a free slot at a bonfire
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1654 Posts
October 15 2011 21:13 GMT
#504
On October 15 2011 23:26 ydeer93 wrote:
ok so i got the pyromancy from the guy in firelink, but when i try use it i just shake my hand and nothing happens, is there something else i need i have some combustion in my bag but when i try press use item nothing happens?


Go to a bonfire and attune magic. Put a fire spell in the slot. Then equip a fire catalyst (should be a weapon that's just a red hand with a flame in it).

For miracles you need a talisman, and for regular magic you need a regular catalyst.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
October 16 2011 00:20 GMT
#505
question - if i summon someone to help me with a boss - does that mean theres no chance for me to get an item drop from it? At least if my partner does the killing blow?
beep boop
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1654 Posts
October 16 2011 00:25 GMT
#506
Bosses don't usually drop items other than their souls (which you get automatically) and specific items that you can cut their tails off for. You'll still get whatever it drops in any case.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
October 16 2011 00:58 GMT
#507
k thx... so other than the use of humanity theres no loss in summoning someone to battle a boss with you
beep boop
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1654 Posts
October 16 2011 01:38 GMT
#508
The only loss is the difficulty of the battle.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 01:42:22
October 16 2011 01:42 GMT
#509
hehe yea, just before asking that question i defeated capra demon by summoning help... i didnt even do anything, i only beat down 1 dog and didnt do anything else but bam there the capra demon dies.
felt a bit cheap ^^
beep boop
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 04:33:52
October 16 2011 04:31 GMT
#510
On October 16 2011 10:42 7mk wrote:
hehe yea, just before asking that question i defeated capra demon by summoning help... i didnt even do anything, i only beat down 1 dog and didnt do anything else but bam there the capra demon dies.
felt a bit cheap ^^


On the bright side it's not a terribly interesting fight, so you didn't really miss out on experiencing much.

Just got done beating the final boss, and that was an awesome fight. Sure, he's not terribly unique or gimmicky, but it is definitely the culmination of everything you've learned and all the skills you've built up through out the game. Some friends came over to record a podcast when I was doing attempts, and I finally said 'ok, last shot and then I'm turning the ps3 off.' And that was the kill shot with 3 big parries.

Was wearing full Havel's and +2 Dragon Tooth. As soon as I got through the gate I would cast the Power Within pyromancy (wrong name I think?), switch weapons, and back up to avoid the first hit, and then each parry was doing around 1300 damage.

The timing on the parries is a bitch to figure out though. If you're having trouble though, just anticipate the attack. It's hard to react to, but he's so aggressive that you can figure out when the next attack cycle is coming so you can just hit L2 a half second or so after he's done attacking and you should catch him.

Edit: Glad it wasn't as easy as the last boss of Demon's Souls. On the topic though, the fight reminded me of false king a bit.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 04:45:22
October 16 2011 04:43 GMT
#511
Grats on beating the game.+ Show Spoiler +
Did you do the bad ending or good one. (Lightning the fire is the good one. Which is against canon). Just curious :D
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
October 16 2011 04:55 GMT
#512
Hey guys loving the game but im stuck at Ornstein and Smough. Any tips?
It is what it is
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
October 16 2011 04:56 GMT
#513
On October 16 2011 13:43 Infernal_dream wrote:
Grats on beating the game.+ Show Spoiler +
Did you do the bad ending or good one. (Lightning the fire is the good one. Which is against canon). Just curious :D


Good ending I guess. Gonna go back and rewatch it, and watch the bad ending. Didn't really make a whole lot of sense to me.
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
October 16 2011 05:38 GMT
#514
On October 16 2011 13:56 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 13:43 Infernal_dream wrote:
Grats on beating the game.+ Show Spoiler +
Did you do the bad ending or good one. (Lightning the fire is the good one. Which is against canon). Just curious :D


Good ending I guess. Gonna go back and rewatch it, and watch the bad ending. Didn't really make a whole lot of sense to me.


+ Show Spoiler +

After I beat him I wanted to go back and make the sword using his soul, so I just walked out and got the bad ending :-( Was kind of upset, so I kept playing through to the Undead Parish again - not sure if I really want to play through the whole thing again, but would like to do the good ending >.> And yeah, the fight does remind me a bit of False King -- nothing crazy, just a buff as hell human. I beat him straight up after three tries, I think -- Greatshield of Artorias helps a lot, just block, attack when he's comboing or after he tries to grab you, and walk or roll back from the grabs.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 06:17:14
October 16 2011 06:05 GMT
#515
On October 16 2011 13:55 Dizmaul wrote:
Hey guys loving the game but im stuck at Ornstein and Smough. Any tips?


Depending on who's gear you want to get, you should only target one. You will get the soul of the dude you kill last as well as the chance to buy his armour from the merchant near the Firelink Shrine aqueduct.

Its not a difficult fight once you understand the reason why From Software put all of those pillars across the room. Neither of the two can really attack through the pillars and neither can attack through each other. So you want to abuse the pillars and try and position them like this:

You --------- Smough ---------- Ornstein

Since they can't attack through pillars, you drink your flasks behind them.

If you are having trouble, kindle the closest bonfire to 20 flasks. Also upgrade your weapons and shield if you haven't already. The increased shield stability makes sure Smough can't stagger you with a single hit and obviously you want to kill them as fast as possible. Alternatively, just use the lightning spear since its by far the best weapon you can pick up at that point and Smough is weak against lighting.

The 2nd form is much easier. Smough fights exactly the same except all of his attacks do electric damage (so blocking will not negate all damage) and his buttstomp attack now has a huge lightning AOE effect which you want to dodge at all costs; Ornstein is a lot larger, has a weak buttstomp move, and has an impale move but because he is so large, so long as you stay between his legs and close to his butt, he can't hit you.

A lot of the boss fights in this game aren't too difficult if you aren't afraid to get close to the bosses - Sif, for instance, can be beaten easily, without any flasks, if you have a good enough shield. The levels in the late game are much more difficult (and in the case of Tomb of the Giants, pretty much bullshit).
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 06:20:58
October 16 2011 06:12 GMT
#516
I wish dexterity wasnt practically a 100% useless stat for any PvP build. The lack of many dex weapons as well is kind of odd.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 07:08:44
October 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#517
On October 16 2011 15:12 DannyJ wrote:
I wish dexterity wasnt practically a 100% useless stat for any PvP build. The lack of many dex weapons as well is kind of odd.


Hmm? Piercing swords, Uchigatana, Iaito are all good choices.
Just take a look at the weapon list.
http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Weapons

In the Japanese PvP video posted on page 23, you can see his stats. Soul Level 97, he has 20 Strength and 22 Dexterity, 40 Vitality and 40 Endurance. Neither "damage" stats are considered high. What matters most is the weapon you use, based on its speed, damage, upgrades you want to pursue, and the set of moves the weapon utilizes.


@9:55, owwwww



Some more videos on the sidebar.
靈魂交響曲
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
October 16 2011 13:56 GMT
#518
Lost interest in my Katana chick. Went back to my 75 Cleric.

Mace is so awful for PvP. Wish they actually gave some love to blunt weapons...a warhammer would have been nice too :[
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
October 16 2011 14:03 GMT
#519
I wanna ask everyone who is using a Pyromancer

1. How powerful do you feel?

2. What is the general rotation you use for the most common enemies?

3. Is it viable?


Thanks, i might reroll.
★ Top Gun ★
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
October 16 2011 16:28 GMT
#520
On October 16 2011 23:03 Tyree wrote:
I wanna ask everyone who is using a Pyromancer

1. How powerful do you feel?

2. What is the general rotation you use for the most common enemies?

3. Is it viable?


Thanks, i might reroll.


About as powerful as any other class.

Hit it with a lightning spear or dragon tooth until it dies.

Very.

(=

The classes aren't too drastically different. The starter Pyro spell is kind of nice in the very beginning, but it only has 8 charges. The biggest benefit to starting out with a Pyro is just the low slvl.
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