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On October 11 2011 19:53 CoffeeJelly wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me.  I've only fought him as melee. This fight is all about killing each king before the next one pop out so use the best armor you have and the highest 2hander you can use. I killed them at soul level 53 and my gear setup was havel helm / chest with gold hemmed glove and pants. I used +4 dark knight's sword with the stamina regen crest and havel's ring + the abyss walking ring. If you can use the iron flesh spell this fight will be a lot easier as you can just tank all the damage while beating the crap out of them. Most of them just do a simple vertical and horizonal slash which can be dodged easily. The homing missile they shoot should be just tanked if you have enough defence/hp. Hope this helps! Thanks! I'm going to try your tips asap.
On October 11 2011 23:29 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 15:14 dormer wrote:
There should be a spot just before you go out where you can just walk off and drop down onto the ledge, there shouldn't really be any risk involved. Shit, my modem blew up right after you replied. Didn't have internet access at home for the past 36 hours and I'm in the office right now. I found out about that later when I was walking back to the other side... sonuvabiatch. Originally, I thought the gap was too big to just "walk off the edge", so I resorted to backing up, charge, then jump through the gap between the columns, which ended up with my head banging into the columns instead then fall to the floor and die. I eventually succeeded through with a blinded-by-rage-super-focused-precision-jump. Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I'm level 88 and I'm not at the Four Kings yet. Though the story tells you need to kill them to progress, there are still other stuff you can do first. Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:59 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Man I'm gonna start a new character. I swear being a cleric helps you fuck all.
I've spent the entire game whacking stuff with my morning star, my divine morning star and then into an obsidian morning star the damage is hardly that good.
Healing takes too fucking long to cast so I literally cannot use it in spots when I want to and I can't find any more miracles anywhere. I thought about getting the lightning bolt but fuck that, there are so few miracle spells compared to magic spells I don't see the point in the cleric.
I mean jeez, at least give us magic shield instead of mages...
New character, mutha fuckin' wizard. A nimble son of a bitch that magics up his 2h weapon (to be decided) and stabs stuff.
HEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO Who the hell plays a pure Cleric  ? Anyways, my guy currently has 80 Int, 10 Endurance, and 23 Atonement, 10 Strength, 10 Vitality, 12 Dexterity, at level 88. Do not use 2 handers! Use a shield with a thrusting 1 hander, like rapiers etc.. Same like Demon Souls, you can hide behind your shield while attack at the same time, and these weapons attack very fast. A lot of the time in Demon Souls during PvP, people would try to close in on me, thinking since that I'm a Mage with low HP and assume that I have no melee combat capability, they're always the ones that pay the price. With Homing Soulmass and a decently upgraded weapon, you can tore them to shreds.
- The Wolf boss is the coolest ever. - I'm in the Crystal Cave, and I want to stab myself. I've never died so much even to mobs. How are you so high level before the four kings, what else can I do before them? Lot's of doors are sealed and I thought he was the next guy to go to.
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So, I'm considering going out and giving this a buy and dusting off the old 360.
Some questions though:
* Is it good on the 360? I know Demon Souls was a Playstation game, so this is a question I would firstly like answered
* Just how difficult is it? I would love a detailed answer to this. I am looking for a challenge.
* Is there anything other than simple melee classes? All the gameplay videos I have seen (albeit not many) have been simple sword/shield whacking around but I heard there are like 10 classes to play.
* How long does the game take?
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On October 12 2011 00:48 Candadar wrote:
So, I'm considering going out and giving this a buy and dusting off the old 360.
Some questions though:
* Is it good on the 360? I know Demon Souls was a Playstation game, so this is a question I would firstly like answered
* Just how difficult is it? I would love a detailed answer to this. I am looking for a challenge.
* Is there anything other than simple melee classes? All the gameplay videos I have seen (albeit not many) have been simple sword/shield whacking around but I heard there are like 10 classes to play.
* How long does the game take?
-The game is fine on both platforms. Both have the same framerate issues in some areas. Also this game does have "co-op" but you can't choose who you play with or have party chat. I only bring this up because many 360 players do not understand how the anonymous co-op thing works because nothing else really plays this way.
-The game is as difficult as you want it to be. It is very challenging. The combat is very strict and precise. If you execute your moves correctly you can go very far, but if you get greedy or try to play quickly the game will punish you very harshly. Play safely and methodically and you will do well at this game.
-The classes don't really mean very much in this game. They pretty much only determine your starting stats and equipment. The game discourages pure magic builds because all spells have limited number of uses until you rest again. You can level a stat (attunement) to incease the amount of casts you get, but TBH it's not worth it. The melee combat is where the heart of this game is at. Get a weapon you can get behind and then throw in some magic to compliment it when the weapon is less effective.
-This game is LONG. 60+ hours seems normal for a first run. The game then has New Game+ where you keep mostly everything and start over and the enemies scale. The creators claim you can go until NG+++++++, but no one has gotten there yet so who knows how it works out. You can def. do a NG+ with harder enemies.
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On October 12 2011 00:43 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 19:53 CoffeeJelly wrote:On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I've only fought him as melee. This fight is all about killing each king before the next one pop out so use the best armor you have and the highest 2hander you can use. I killed them at soul level 53 and my gear setup was havel helm / chest with gold hemmed glove and pants. I used +4 dark knight's sword with the stamina regen crest and havel's ring + the abyss walking ring. If you can use the iron flesh spell this fight will be a lot easier as you can just tank all the damage while beating the crap out of them. Most of them just do a simple vertical and horizonal slash which can be dodged easily. The homing missile they shoot should be just tanked if you have enough defence/hp. Hope this helps! Thanks! I'm going to try your tips asap. Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 23:29 Fishball wrote:On October 10 2011 15:14 dormer wrote:
There should be a spot just before you go out where you can just walk off and drop down onto the ledge, there shouldn't really be any risk involved. Shit, my modem blew up right after you replied. Didn't have internet access at home for the past 36 hours and I'm in the office right now. I found out about that later when I was walking back to the other side... sonuvabiatch. Originally, I thought the gap was too big to just "walk off the edge", so I resorted to backing up, charge, then jump through the gap between the columns, which ended up with my head banging into the columns instead then fall to the floor and die. I eventually succeeded through with a blinded-by-rage-super-focused-precision-jump. On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I'm level 88 and I'm not at the Four Kings yet. Though the story tells you need to kill them to progress, there are still other stuff you can do first. On October 11 2011 01:59 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Man I'm gonna start a new character. I swear being a cleric helps you fuck all.
I've spent the entire game whacking stuff with my morning star, my divine morning star and then into an obsidian morning star the damage is hardly that good.
Healing takes too fucking long to cast so I literally cannot use it in spots when I want to and I can't find any more miracles anywhere. I thought about getting the lightning bolt but fuck that, there are so few miracle spells compared to magic spells I don't see the point in the cleric.
I mean jeez, at least give us magic shield instead of mages...
New character, mutha fuckin' wizard. A nimble son of a bitch that magics up his 2h weapon (to be decided) and stabs stuff.
HEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO Who the hell plays a pure Cleric ? Anyways, my guy currently has 80 Int, 10 Endurance, and 23 Atonement, 10 Strength, 10 Vitality, 12 Dexterity, at level 88. Do not use 2 handers! Use a shield with a thrusting 1 hander, like rapiers etc.. Same like Demon Souls, you can hide behind your shield while attack at the same time, and these weapons attack very fast. A lot of the time in Demon Souls during PvP, people would try to close in on me, thinking since that I'm a Mage with low HP and assume that I have no melee combat capability, they're always the ones that pay the price. With Homing Soulmass and a decently upgraded weapon, you can tore them to shreds.
- The Wolf boss is the coolest ever. - I'm in the Crystal Cave, and I want to stab myself. I've never died so much even to mobs. How are you so high level before the four kings, what else can I do before them? Lot's of doors are sealed and I thought he was the next guy to go to.
Farm souls in the forest. 7k souls approximately every 60-90 seconds, depending how fast you can kill them, or get them killed. I'll elaborate on this a bit later.
First you need 20k souls to buy the forest seal from the Blacksmith, then head down to the forest and unlock the gate with the seal. The bonfire is right beside it. When you walk pass the gate, there are 4 NPCs that you can kill and they will respawn every time you visit a bonfire. There is also 2 more NPCs that doesn't respawn. There is 1 Mage (2k souls), 1 Theif (2k souls), 1 Cleric (2k souls), 1 Warrior (1k souls), in the order you encounter them. The two non respawnable NPC is a Warrior (3k souls) and an Archer who has unique loot (5k souls). Both non respawnable NPC and the Theif are in ghost form, so you can't lock onto them.
Besides killing them the regular way, there is a glitch with the AI in the game. When you run to the bottom corner edge of the stairs where you enter from the gate, the NPCs won't follow you straight to that spot, and instead, they will go around, up the stairs, and them jump down to try to get you, which most of the time, falls off the cliff and die instead. So don't do this if you don't want to "cheat".
Video attached.
+ Show Spoiler +
However, sometimes the AI gets stuck and doesn't run up the stairs. They will stall or even back up, so you have to run out of your spot and lure them again, wasting time. I personally flat out kill them with my Homing Soulmass, as it's much quicker overall, and I have control.
The other two NPCs are on the opposite side of these four, not far away.
Speaking of which, where is the Four Kings ?
Oh, and the Wolf Boss is further in this area (pass the building and small bridge where the warrior is, and go straight till you see another bridge). Pay him a visit if you haven't already.
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On October 12 2011 01:19 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 00:43 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 11 2011 19:53 CoffeeJelly wrote:On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I've only fought him as melee. This fight is all about killing each king before the next one pop out so use the best armor you have and the highest 2hander you can use. I killed them at soul level 53 and my gear setup was havel helm / chest with gold hemmed glove and pants. I used +4 dark knight's sword with the stamina regen crest and havel's ring + the abyss walking ring. If you can use the iron flesh spell this fight will be a lot easier as you can just tank all the damage while beating the crap out of them. Most of them just do a simple vertical and horizonal slash which can be dodged easily. The homing missile they shoot should be just tanked if you have enough defence/hp. Hope this helps! Thanks! I'm going to try your tips asap. On October 11 2011 23:29 Fishball wrote:On October 10 2011 15:14 dormer wrote:
There should be a spot just before you go out where you can just walk off and drop down onto the ledge, there shouldn't really be any risk involved. Shit, my modem blew up right after you replied. Didn't have internet access at home for the past 36 hours and I'm in the office right now. I found out about that later when I was walking back to the other side... sonuvabiatch. Originally, I thought the gap was too big to just "walk off the edge", so I resorted to backing up, charge, then jump through the gap between the columns, which ended up with my head banging into the columns instead then fall to the floor and die. I eventually succeeded through with a blinded-by-rage-super-focused-precision-jump. On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I'm level 88 and I'm not at the Four Kings yet. Though the story tells you need to kill them to progress, there are still other stuff you can do first. On October 11 2011 01:59 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Man I'm gonna start a new character. I swear being a cleric helps you fuck all.
I've spent the entire game whacking stuff with my morning star, my divine morning star and then into an obsidian morning star the damage is hardly that good.
Healing takes too fucking long to cast so I literally cannot use it in spots when I want to and I can't find any more miracles anywhere. I thought about getting the lightning bolt but fuck that, there are so few miracle spells compared to magic spells I don't see the point in the cleric.
I mean jeez, at least give us magic shield instead of mages...
New character, mutha fuckin' wizard. A nimble son of a bitch that magics up his 2h weapon (to be decided) and stabs stuff.
HEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO Who the hell plays a pure Cleric ? Anyways, my guy currently has 80 Int, 10 Endurance, and 23 Atonement, 10 Strength, 10 Vitality, 12 Dexterity, at level 88. Do not use 2 handers! Use a shield with a thrusting 1 hander, like rapiers etc.. Same like Demon Souls, you can hide behind your shield while attack at the same time, and these weapons attack very fast. A lot of the time in Demon Souls during PvP, people would try to close in on me, thinking since that I'm a Mage with low HP and assume that I have no melee combat capability, they're always the ones that pay the price. With Homing Soulmass and a decently upgraded weapon, you can tore them to shreds.
- The Wolf boss is the coolest ever. - I'm in the Crystal Cave, and I want to stab myself. I've never died so much even to mobs. How are you so high level before the four kings, what else can I do before them? Lot's of doors are sealed and I thought he was the next guy to go to. Farm souls in the forest. 7k souls approximately every 60-90 seconds, depending how fast you can kill them, or get them killed. I'll elaborate on this a bit later. First you need 20k souls to buy the forest seal from the Blacksmith, then head down to the forest and unlock the gate with the seal. The bonfire is right beside it. When you walk pass the gate, there are 4 NPCs that you can kill and they will respawn every time you visit a bonfire. There is also 2 more NPCs that doesn't respawn. There is 1 Mage (2k souls), 1 Theif (2k souls), 1 Cleric (2k souls), 1 Warrior (1k souls), in the order you encounter them. The two non respawnable NPC is a Warrior (3k souls) and an Archer who has unique loot (5k souls). Both non respawnable NPC and the Theif are in ghost form, so you can't lock onto them. Besides killing them the regular way, there is a glitch with the AI in the game. When you run to the bottom corner edge of the stairs where you enter from the gate, the NPCs won't follow you straight to that spot, and instead, they will go around, up the stairs, and them jump down to try to get you, which most of the time, falls off the cliff and die instead. So don't do this if you don't want to "cheat". Video attached. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp6IKCG1U8U However, sometimes the AI gets stuck and doesn't run up the stairs. They will stall or even back up, so you have to run out of your spot and lure them again, wasting time. I personally flat out kill them with my Homing Soulmass, as it's much quicker overall, and I have control. The other two NPCs are on the opposite side of these four, not far away. Speaking of which, where is the Four Kings ? Oh, thanks!
The four kings are in New Londo which you can access right below the bonfire in firelink shrine. You can't get to the boss though unless you kill the boss in that forest you were just talking about. 
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On October 12 2011 01:22 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 01:19 Fishball wrote:On October 12 2011 00:43 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 11 2011 19:53 CoffeeJelly wrote:On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I've only fought him as melee. This fight is all about killing each king before the next one pop out so use the best armor you have and the highest 2hander you can use. I killed them at soul level 53 and my gear setup was havel helm / chest with gold hemmed glove and pants. I used +4 dark knight's sword with the stamina regen crest and havel's ring + the abyss walking ring. If you can use the iron flesh spell this fight will be a lot easier as you can just tank all the damage while beating the crap out of them. Most of them just do a simple vertical and horizonal slash which can be dodged easily. The homing missile they shoot should be just tanked if you have enough defence/hp. Hope this helps! Thanks! I'm going to try your tips asap. On October 11 2011 23:29 Fishball wrote:On October 10 2011 15:14 dormer wrote:
There should be a spot just before you go out where you can just walk off and drop down onto the ledge, there shouldn't really be any risk involved. Shit, my modem blew up right after you replied. Didn't have internet access at home for the past 36 hours and I'm in the office right now. I found out about that later when I was walking back to the other side... sonuvabiatch. Originally, I thought the gap was too big to just "walk off the edge", so I resorted to backing up, charge, then jump through the gap between the columns, which ended up with my head banging into the columns instead then fall to the floor and die. I eventually succeeded through with a blinded-by-rage-super-focused-precision-jump. On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I'm level 88 and I'm not at the Four Kings yet. Though the story tells you need to kill them to progress, there are still other stuff you can do first. On October 11 2011 01:59 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Man I'm gonna start a new character. I swear being a cleric helps you fuck all.
I've spent the entire game whacking stuff with my morning star, my divine morning star and then into an obsidian morning star the damage is hardly that good.
Healing takes too fucking long to cast so I literally cannot use it in spots when I want to and I can't find any more miracles anywhere. I thought about getting the lightning bolt but fuck that, there are so few miracle spells compared to magic spells I don't see the point in the cleric.
I mean jeez, at least give us magic shield instead of mages...
New character, mutha fuckin' wizard. A nimble son of a bitch that magics up his 2h weapon (to be decided) and stabs stuff.
HEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO Who the hell plays a pure Cleric ? Anyways, my guy currently has 80 Int, 10 Endurance, and 23 Atonement, 10 Strength, 10 Vitality, 12 Dexterity, at level 88. Do not use 2 handers! Use a shield with a thrusting 1 hander, like rapiers etc.. Same like Demon Souls, you can hide behind your shield while attack at the same time, and these weapons attack very fast. A lot of the time in Demon Souls during PvP, people would try to close in on me, thinking since that I'm a Mage with low HP and assume that I have no melee combat capability, they're always the ones that pay the price. With Homing Soulmass and a decently upgraded weapon, you can tore them to shreds.
- The Wolf boss is the coolest ever. - I'm in the Crystal Cave, and I want to stab myself. I've never died so much even to mobs. How are you so high level before the four kings, what else can I do before them? Lot's of doors are sealed and I thought he was the next guy to go to. Farm souls in the forest. 7k souls approximately every 60-90 seconds, depending how fast you can kill them, or get them killed. I'll elaborate on this a bit later. First you need 20k souls to buy the forest seal from the Blacksmith, then head down to the forest and unlock the gate with the seal. The bonfire is right beside it. When you walk pass the gate, there are 4 NPCs that you can kill and they will respawn every time you visit a bonfire. There is also 2 more NPCs that doesn't respawn. There is 1 Mage (2k souls), 1 Theif (2k souls), 1 Cleric (2k souls), 1 Warrior (1k souls), in the order you encounter them. The two non respawnable NPC is a Warrior (3k souls) and an Archer who has unique loot (5k souls). Both non respawnable NPC and the Theif are in ghost form, so you can't lock onto them. Besides killing them the regular way, there is a glitch with the AI in the game. When you run to the bottom corner edge of the stairs where you enter from the gate, the NPCs won't follow you straight to that spot, and instead, they will go around, up the stairs, and them jump down to try to get you, which most of the time, falls off the cliff and die instead. So don't do this if you don't want to "cheat". Video attached. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp6IKCG1U8U However, sometimes the AI gets stuck and doesn't run up the stairs. They will stall or even back up, so you have to run out of your spot and lure them again, wasting time. I personally flat out kill them with my Homing Soulmass, as it's much quicker overall, and I have control. The other two NPCs are on the opposite side of these four, not far away. Speaking of which, where is the Four Kings ? Oh, thanks! The four kings are in New Londo which you can access right below the bonfire in firelink shrine. You can't get to the boss though unless you kill the boss in that forest you were just talking about.
Which, the Wolf?
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I just got the game, any recommendations on which class should I start as?
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On October 12 2011 02:58 DragoonPK wrote:
I just got the game, any recommendations on which class should I start as?
Knight/wanderer are pretty good starting classes. Obviously knight is for STR build and wanderer for Dex build.
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My Sorc is so imbalanced. 1000 damage a shot.
I'm 100% Vitality and Intelligence. Healthy and smart
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On October 12 2011 02:58 DragoonPK wrote:
I just got the game, any recommendations on which class should I start as?
From what I hear Pyromancer is the one to go for as a beginner.
Hope my copy arrives tommorow, can't wait to start though I will probably regret it ^^
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I'm not sure which gift to take, I heard people saying not to take the master key because you can end up in places you are not supposed to be in. People recomended the pendant irrc, any thoughts?
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On October 12 2011 03:38 DragoonPK wrote:
I'm not sure which gift to take, I heard people saying not to take the master key because you can end up in places you are not supposed to be in. People recomended the pendant irrc, any thoughts?
If you get the masterkey you can get a bunch of early game souls, helping you progress slightly faster. By taking the witches ring you can join some covenant I know absolutely nothing about.
I chose the binoculars LMFAO what a mistake that was.
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On October 12 2011 01:09 Rayeth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 00:48 Candadar wrote:
So, I'm considering going out and giving this a buy and dusting off the old 360.
Some questions though:
* Is it good on the 360? I know Demon Souls was a Playstation game, so this is a question I would firstly like answered
* Just how difficult is it? I would love a detailed answer to this. I am looking for a challenge.
* Is there anything other than simple melee classes? All the gameplay videos I have seen (albeit not many) have been simple sword/shield whacking around but I heard there are like 10 classes to play.
* How long does the game take? -The game is fine on both platforms. Both have the same framerate issues in some areas. Also this game does have "co-op" but you can't choose who you play with or have party chat. I only bring this up because many 360 players do not understand how the anonymous co-op thing works because nothing else really plays this way. -The game is as difficult as you want it to be. It is very challenging. The combat is very strict and precise. If you execute your moves correctly you can go very far, but if you get greedy or try to play quickly the game will punish you very harshly. Play safely and methodically and you will do well at this game. -The classes don't really mean very much in this game. They pretty much only determine your starting stats and equipment. The game discourages pure magic builds because all spells have limited number of uses until you rest again. You can level a stat (attunement) to incease the amount of casts you get, but TBH it's not worth it. The melee combat is where the heart of this game is at. Get a weapon you can get behind and then throw in some magic to compliment it when the weapon is less effective. -This game is LONG. 60+ hours seems normal for a first run. The game then has New Game+ where you keep mostly everything and start over and the enemies scale. The creators claim you can go until NG+++++++, but no one has gotten there yet so who knows how it works out. You can def. do a NG+ with harder enemies.
Yeah, the worst of the frame rate issue is at the bottom of Blight Town in the swamp area. Oh my god, it's horrendous. If you google "framerate", "lag" and "Blight Town", you'll find lots of complaints.
My build is pure magic, and I'm doing really well though. You can equip the same spell multiple times to increase the total usable quantity, and with attunement, you can equip up to 10 spells.
In Demon Souls, my last character cleared the game at least 16 times with 300+ hours invested. The only issue is that when your level is that high, there aren't many people to play with (especially PvP). I think this game would change as there seems to be more Dark Souls players.
On October 12 2011 03:44 Kyhol wrote:
I chose the binoculars LMFAO what a mistake that was.
Hahaha. Who the hell does that
But yes, Master Key is the way to go, or the Pendant, since there is an NPC that will want it for story purposes. I chose the Master Key.
First thing I do right out of the Asylum, is to unlock the door to the Valley of Drakes with your Master Key, then suicide loot the Dragon Crest Shield and a sword that does physical and magic damage (forgot the name) by a sleeping dragon. It proceeds to one shot you after you lewt its precious.
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On October 12 2011 01:25 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 01:22 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 12 2011 01:19 Fishball wrote:On October 12 2011 00:43 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 11 2011 19:53 CoffeeJelly wrote:On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I've only fought him as melee. This fight is all about killing each king before the next one pop out so use the best armor you have and the highest 2hander you can use. I killed them at soul level 53 and my gear setup was havel helm / chest with gold hemmed glove and pants. I used +4 dark knight's sword with the stamina regen crest and havel's ring + the abyss walking ring. If you can use the iron flesh spell this fight will be a lot easier as you can just tank all the damage while beating the crap out of them. Most of them just do a simple vertical and horizonal slash which can be dodged easily. The homing missile they shoot should be just tanked if you have enough defence/hp. Hope this helps! Thanks! I'm going to try your tips asap. On October 11 2011 23:29 Fishball wrote:On October 10 2011 15:14 dormer wrote:
There should be a spot just before you go out where you can just walk off and drop down onto the ledge, there shouldn't really be any risk involved. Shit, my modem blew up right after you replied. Didn't have internet access at home for the past 36 hours and I'm in the office right now. I found out about that later when I was walking back to the other side... sonuvabiatch. Originally, I thought the gap was too big to just "walk off the edge", so I resorted to backing up, charge, then jump through the gap between the columns, which ended up with my head banging into the columns instead then fall to the floor and die. I eventually succeeded through with a blinded-by-rage-super-focused-precision-jump. On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I'm level 88 and I'm not at the Four Kings yet. Though the story tells you need to kill them to progress, there are still other stuff you can do first. On October 11 2011 01:59 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Man I'm gonna start a new character. I swear being a cleric helps you fuck all.
I've spent the entire game whacking stuff with my morning star, my divine morning star and then into an obsidian morning star the damage is hardly that good.
Healing takes too fucking long to cast so I literally cannot use it in spots when I want to and I can't find any more miracles anywhere. I thought about getting the lightning bolt but fuck that, there are so few miracle spells compared to magic spells I don't see the point in the cleric.
I mean jeez, at least give us magic shield instead of mages...
New character, mutha fuckin' wizard. A nimble son of a bitch that magics up his 2h weapon (to be decided) and stabs stuff.
HEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO Who the hell plays a pure Cleric ? Anyways, my guy currently has 80 Int, 10 Endurance, and 23 Atonement, 10 Strength, 10 Vitality, 12 Dexterity, at level 88. Do not use 2 handers! Use a shield with a thrusting 1 hander, like rapiers etc.. Same like Demon Souls, you can hide behind your shield while attack at the same time, and these weapons attack very fast. A lot of the time in Demon Souls during PvP, people would try to close in on me, thinking since that I'm a Mage with low HP and assume that I have no melee combat capability, they're always the ones that pay the price. With Homing Soulmass and a decently upgraded weapon, you can tore them to shreds.
- The Wolf boss is the coolest ever. - I'm in the Crystal Cave, and I want to stab myself. I've never died so much even to mobs. How are you so high level before the four kings, what else can I do before them? Lot's of doors are sealed and I thought he was the next guy to go to. Farm souls in the forest. 7k souls approximately every 60-90 seconds, depending how fast you can kill them, or get them killed. I'll elaborate on this a bit later. First you need 20k souls to buy the forest seal from the Blacksmith, then head down to the forest and unlock the gate with the seal. The bonfire is right beside it. When you walk pass the gate, there are 4 NPCs that you can kill and they will respawn every time you visit a bonfire. There is also 2 more NPCs that doesn't respawn. There is 1 Mage (2k souls), 1 Theif (2k souls), 1 Cleric (2k souls), 1 Warrior (1k souls), in the order you encounter them. The two non respawnable NPC is a Warrior (3k souls) and an Archer who has unique loot (5k souls). Both non respawnable NPC and the Theif are in ghost form, so you can't lock onto them. Besides killing them the regular way, there is a glitch with the AI in the game. When you run to the bottom corner edge of the stairs where you enter from the gate, the NPCs won't follow you straight to that spot, and instead, they will go around, up the stairs, and them jump down to try to get you, which most of the time, falls off the cliff and die instead. So don't do this if you don't want to "cheat". Video attached. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp6IKCG1U8U However, sometimes the AI gets stuck and doesn't run up the stairs. They will stall or even back up, so you have to run out of your spot and lure them again, wasting time. I personally flat out kill them with my Homing Soulmass, as it's much quicker overall, and I have control. The other two NPCs are on the opposite side of these four, not far away. Speaking of which, where is the Four Kings ? Oh, thanks! The four kings are in New Londo which you can access right below the bonfire in firelink shrine. You can't get to the boss though unless you kill the boss in that forest you were just talking about. Which, the Wolf? Yeah the wolf, then you get an item to be able to walk on the abyss. Without it you just fall and die.
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On October 12 2011 04:07 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 01:25 Fishball wrote:On October 12 2011 01:22 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 12 2011 01:19 Fishball wrote:On October 12 2011 00:43 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 11 2011 19:53 CoffeeJelly wrote:On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I've only fought him as melee. This fight is all about killing each king before the next one pop out so use the best armor you have and the highest 2hander you can use. I killed them at soul level 53 and my gear setup was havel helm / chest with gold hemmed glove and pants. I used +4 dark knight's sword with the stamina regen crest and havel's ring + the abyss walking ring. If you can use the iron flesh spell this fight will be a lot easier as you can just tank all the damage while beating the crap out of them. Most of them just do a simple vertical and horizonal slash which can be dodged easily. The homing missile they shoot should be just tanked if you have enough defence/hp. Hope this helps! Thanks! I'm going to try your tips asap. On October 11 2011 23:29 Fishball wrote:On October 10 2011 15:14 dormer wrote:
There should be a spot just before you go out where you can just walk off and drop down onto the ledge, there shouldn't really be any risk involved. Shit, my modem blew up right after you replied. Didn't have internet access at home for the past 36 hours and I'm in the office right now. I found out about that later when I was walking back to the other side... sonuvabiatch. Originally, I thought the gap was too big to just "walk off the edge", so I resorted to backing up, charge, then jump through the gap between the columns, which ended up with my head banging into the columns instead then fall to the floor and die. I eventually succeeded through with a blinded-by-rage-super-focused-precision-jump. On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I'm level 88 and I'm not at the Four Kings yet. Though the story tells you need to kill them to progress, there are still other stuff you can do first. On October 11 2011 01:59 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Man I'm gonna start a new character. I swear being a cleric helps you fuck all.
I've spent the entire game whacking stuff with my morning star, my divine morning star and then into an obsidian morning star the damage is hardly that good.
Healing takes too fucking long to cast so I literally cannot use it in spots when I want to and I can't find any more miracles anywhere. I thought about getting the lightning bolt but fuck that, there are so few miracle spells compared to magic spells I don't see the point in the cleric.
I mean jeez, at least give us magic shield instead of mages...
New character, mutha fuckin' wizard. A nimble son of a bitch that magics up his 2h weapon (to be decided) and stabs stuff.
HEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO Who the hell plays a pure Cleric ? Anyways, my guy currently has 80 Int, 10 Endurance, and 23 Atonement, 10 Strength, 10 Vitality, 12 Dexterity, at level 88. Do not use 2 handers! Use a shield with a thrusting 1 hander, like rapiers etc.. Same like Demon Souls, you can hide behind your shield while attack at the same time, and these weapons attack very fast. A lot of the time in Demon Souls during PvP, people would try to close in on me, thinking since that I'm a Mage with low HP and assume that I have no melee combat capability, they're always the ones that pay the price. With Homing Soulmass and a decently upgraded weapon, you can tore them to shreds.
- The Wolf boss is the coolest ever. - I'm in the Crystal Cave, and I want to stab myself. I've never died so much even to mobs. How are you so high level before the four kings, what else can I do before them? Lot's of doors are sealed and I thought he was the next guy to go to. Farm souls in the forest. 7k souls approximately every 60-90 seconds, depending how fast you can kill them, or get them killed. I'll elaborate on this a bit later. First you need 20k souls to buy the forest seal from the Blacksmith, then head down to the forest and unlock the gate with the seal. The bonfire is right beside it. When you walk pass the gate, there are 4 NPCs that you can kill and they will respawn every time you visit a bonfire. There is also 2 more NPCs that doesn't respawn. There is 1 Mage (2k souls), 1 Theif (2k souls), 1 Cleric (2k souls), 1 Warrior (1k souls), in the order you encounter them. The two non respawnable NPC is a Warrior (3k souls) and an Archer who has unique loot (5k souls). Both non respawnable NPC and the Theif are in ghost form, so you can't lock onto them. Besides killing them the regular way, there is a glitch with the AI in the game. When you run to the bottom corner edge of the stairs where you enter from the gate, the NPCs won't follow you straight to that spot, and instead, they will go around, up the stairs, and them jump down to try to get you, which most of the time, falls off the cliff and die instead. So don't do this if you don't want to "cheat". Video attached. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp6IKCG1U8U However, sometimes the AI gets stuck and doesn't run up the stairs. They will stall or even back up, so you have to run out of your spot and lure them again, wasting time. I personally flat out kill them with my Homing Soulmass, as it's much quicker overall, and I have control. The other two NPCs are on the opposite side of these four, not far away. Speaking of which, where is the Four Kings ? Oh, thanks! The four kings are in New Londo which you can access right below the bonfire in firelink shrine. You can't get to the boss though unless you kill the boss in that forest you were just talking about. Which, the Wolf? Yeah the wolf, then you get an item to be able to walk on the abyss. Without it you just fall and die.
Ah yes, I did get that ring. Wasn't sure what it does so it just fell to the back of my head. I'm at the Crystal Cave right now and it's pissing me off. Please tell me you already finished this area. I'll have to youtube and find my way through when can I get my internet back up at home.
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So went on with my new mage, man those soul arrows are good. Managed to take a quick route through Blighttown WHICH WAS OH MY FUCKING GOD THE BEST and killed sexy spider girl.
Then I kinda wanted to be a cleric again.
Here's to my new cleric! HAZAA
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On October 12 2011 04:14 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 04:07 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 12 2011 01:25 Fishball wrote:On October 12 2011 01:22 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 12 2011 01:19 Fishball wrote:On October 12 2011 00:43 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 11 2011 19:53 CoffeeJelly wrote:On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I've only fought him as melee. This fight is all about killing each king before the next one pop out so use the best armor you have and the highest 2hander you can use. I killed them at soul level 53 and my gear setup was havel helm / chest with gold hemmed glove and pants. I used +4 dark knight's sword with the stamina regen crest and havel's ring + the abyss walking ring. If you can use the iron flesh spell this fight will be a lot easier as you can just tank all the damage while beating the crap out of them. Most of them just do a simple vertical and horizonal slash which can be dodged easily. The homing missile they shoot should be just tanked if you have enough defence/hp. Hope this helps! Thanks! I'm going to try your tips asap. On October 11 2011 23:29 Fishball wrote:On October 10 2011 15:14 dormer wrote:
There should be a spot just before you go out where you can just walk off and drop down onto the ledge, there shouldn't really be any risk involved. Shit, my modem blew up right after you replied. Didn't have internet access at home for the past 36 hours and I'm in the office right now. I found out about that later when I was walking back to the other side... sonuvabiatch. Originally, I thought the gap was too big to just "walk off the edge", so I resorted to backing up, charge, then jump through the gap between the columns, which ended up with my head banging into the columns instead then fall to the floor and die. I eventually succeeded through with a blinded-by-rage-super-focused-precision-jump. On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I'm level 88 and I'm not at the Four Kings yet. Though the story tells you need to kill them to progress, there are still other stuff you can do first. On October 11 2011 01:59 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Man I'm gonna start a new character. I swear being a cleric helps you fuck all.
I've spent the entire game whacking stuff with my morning star, my divine morning star and then into an obsidian morning star the damage is hardly that good.
Healing takes too fucking long to cast so I literally cannot use it in spots when I want to and I can't find any more miracles anywhere. I thought about getting the lightning bolt but fuck that, there are so few miracle spells compared to magic spells I don't see the point in the cleric.
I mean jeez, at least give us magic shield instead of mages...
New character, mutha fuckin' wizard. A nimble son of a bitch that magics up his 2h weapon (to be decided) and stabs stuff.
HEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO Who the hell plays a pure Cleric ? Anyways, my guy currently has 80 Int, 10 Endurance, and 23 Atonement, 10 Strength, 10 Vitality, 12 Dexterity, at level 88. Do not use 2 handers! Use a shield with a thrusting 1 hander, like rapiers etc.. Same like Demon Souls, you can hide behind your shield while attack at the same time, and these weapons attack very fast. A lot of the time in Demon Souls during PvP, people would try to close in on me, thinking since that I'm a Mage with low HP and assume that I have no melee combat capability, they're always the ones that pay the price. With Homing Soulmass and a decently upgraded weapon, you can tore them to shreds.
- The Wolf boss is the coolest ever. - I'm in the Crystal Cave, and I want to stab myself. I've never died so much even to mobs. How are you so high level before the four kings, what else can I do before them? Lot's of doors are sealed and I thought he was the next guy to go to. Farm souls in the forest. 7k souls approximately every 60-90 seconds, depending how fast you can kill them, or get them killed. I'll elaborate on this a bit later. First you need 20k souls to buy the forest seal from the Blacksmith, then head down to the forest and unlock the gate with the seal. The bonfire is right beside it. When you walk pass the gate, there are 4 NPCs that you can kill and they will respawn every time you visit a bonfire. There is also 2 more NPCs that doesn't respawn. There is 1 Mage (2k souls), 1 Theif (2k souls), 1 Cleric (2k souls), 1 Warrior (1k souls), in the order you encounter them. The two non respawnable NPC is a Warrior (3k souls) and an Archer who has unique loot (5k souls). Both non respawnable NPC and the Theif are in ghost form, so you can't lock onto them. Besides killing them the regular way, there is a glitch with the AI in the game. When you run to the bottom corner edge of the stairs where you enter from the gate, the NPCs won't follow you straight to that spot, and instead, they will go around, up the stairs, and them jump down to try to get you, which most of the time, falls off the cliff and die instead. So don't do this if you don't want to "cheat". Video attached. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp6IKCG1U8U However, sometimes the AI gets stuck and doesn't run up the stairs. They will stall or even back up, so you have to run out of your spot and lure them again, wasting time. I personally flat out kill them with my Homing Soulmass, as it's much quicker overall, and I have control. The other two NPCs are on the opposite side of these four, not far away. Speaking of which, where is the Four Kings ? Oh, thanks! The four kings are in New Londo which you can access right below the bonfire in firelink shrine. You can't get to the boss though unless you kill the boss in that forest you were just talking about. Which, the Wolf? Yeah the wolf, then you get an item to be able to walk on the abyss. Without it you just fall and die. Ah yes, I did get that ring. Wasn't sure what it does so it just fell to the back of my head. I'm at the Crystal Cave right now and it's pissing me off. Please tell me you already finished this area. I'll have to youtube and find my way through when can I get my internet back up at home. Where is crystal cave!?
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I leveled up Vitality and Strength for my knight in the 1st 2 level ups. Which others should I focus on too?
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On October 12 2011 05:11 DragoonPK wrote:
I leveled up Vitality and Strength for my knight in the 1st 2 level ups. Which others should I focus on too?
Endurance. I have a knight with 20str/21end/i think 18 vit and 14 dex. THe more endurance the more shots you can block,the longer you can sprint, the more you can carry. Just a great stat all around. I wouldn't worry about leveling a scaling stat in your first play through since the lightning spear destroys everything you can find anyways.
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On October 12 2011 04:36 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 04:14 Fishball wrote:On October 12 2011 04:07 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 12 2011 01:25 Fishball wrote:On October 12 2011 01:22 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 12 2011 01:19 Fishball wrote:On October 12 2011 00:43 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 11 2011 19:53 CoffeeJelly wrote:On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I've only fought him as melee. This fight is all about killing each king before the next one pop out so use the best armor you have and the highest 2hander you can use. I killed them at soul level 53 and my gear setup was havel helm / chest with gold hemmed glove and pants. I used +4 dark knight's sword with the stamina regen crest and havel's ring + the abyss walking ring. If you can use the iron flesh spell this fight will be a lot easier as you can just tank all the damage while beating the crap out of them. Most of them just do a simple vertical and horizonal slash which can be dodged easily. The homing missile they shoot should be just tanked if you have enough defence/hp. Hope this helps! Thanks! I'm going to try your tips asap. On October 11 2011 23:29 Fishball wrote:On October 10 2011 15:14 dormer wrote:
There should be a spot just before you go out where you can just walk off and drop down onto the ledge, there shouldn't really be any risk involved. Shit, my modem blew up right after you replied. Didn't have internet access at home for the past 36 hours and I'm in the office right now. I found out about that later when I was walking back to the other side... sonuvabiatch. Originally, I thought the gap was too big to just "walk off the edge", so I resorted to backing up, charge, then jump through the gap between the columns, which ended up with my head banging into the columns instead then fall to the floor and die. I eventually succeeded through with a blinded-by-rage-super-focused-precision-jump. On October 11 2011 12:39 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On October 10 2011 16:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I need help desperately, how in the fuck do I beat the four kings? I'm level 48, too low? If so, where else can I go!? Nobody can help me. I'm level 88 and I'm not at the Four Kings yet. Though the story tells you need to kill them to progress, there are still other stuff you can do first. On October 11 2011 01:59 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Man I'm gonna start a new character. I swear being a cleric helps you fuck all.
I've spent the entire game whacking stuff with my morning star, my divine morning star and then into an obsidian morning star the damage is hardly that good.
Healing takes too fucking long to cast so I literally cannot use it in spots when I want to and I can't find any more miracles anywhere. I thought about getting the lightning bolt but fuck that, there are so few miracle spells compared to magic spells I don't see the point in the cleric.
I mean jeez, at least give us magic shield instead of mages...
New character, mutha fuckin' wizard. A nimble son of a bitch that magics up his 2h weapon (to be decided) and stabs stuff.
HEEEEEEEEEERE WE GO Who the hell plays a pure Cleric ? Anyways, my guy currently has 80 Int, 10 Endurance, and 23 Atonement, 10 Strength, 10 Vitality, 12 Dexterity, at level 88. Do not use 2 handers! Use a shield with a thrusting 1 hander, like rapiers etc.. Same like Demon Souls, you can hide behind your shield while attack at the same time, and these weapons attack very fast. A lot of the time in Demon Souls during PvP, people would try to close in on me, thinking since that I'm a Mage with low HP and assume that I have no melee combat capability, they're always the ones that pay the price. With Homing Soulmass and a decently upgraded weapon, you can tore them to shreds.
- The Wolf boss is the coolest ever. - I'm in the Crystal Cave, and I want to stab myself. I've never died so much even to mobs. How are you so high level before the four kings, what else can I do before them? Lot's of doors are sealed and I thought he was the next guy to go to. Farm souls in the forest. 7k souls approximately every 60-90 seconds, depending how fast you can kill them, or get them killed. I'll elaborate on this a bit later. First you need 20k souls to buy the forest seal from the Blacksmith, then head down to the forest and unlock the gate with the seal. The bonfire is right beside it. When you walk pass the gate, there are 4 NPCs that you can kill and they will respawn every time you visit a bonfire. There is also 2 more NPCs that doesn't respawn. There is 1 Mage (2k souls), 1 Theif (2k souls), 1 Cleric (2k souls), 1 Warrior (1k souls), in the order you encounter them. The two non respawnable NPC is a Warrior (3k souls) and an Archer who has unique loot (5k souls). Both non respawnable NPC and the Theif are in ghost form, so you can't lock onto them. Besides killing them the regular way, there is a glitch with the AI in the game. When you run to the bottom corner edge of the stairs where you enter from the gate, the NPCs won't follow you straight to that spot, and instead, they will go around, up the stairs, and them jump down to try to get you, which most of the time, falls off the cliff and die instead. So don't do this if you don't want to "cheat". Video attached. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp6IKCG1U8U However, sometimes the AI gets stuck and doesn't run up the stairs. They will stall or even back up, so you have to run out of your spot and lure them again, wasting time. I personally flat out kill them with my Homing Soulmass, as it's much quicker overall, and I have control. The other two NPCs are on the opposite side of these four, not far away. Speaking of which, where is the Four Kings ? Oh, thanks! The four kings are in New Londo which you can access right below the bonfire in firelink shrine. You can't get to the boss though unless you kill the boss in that forest you were just talking about. Which, the Wolf? Yeah the wolf, then you get an item to be able to walk on the abyss. Without it you just fall and die. Ah yes, I did get that ring. Wasn't sure what it does so it just fell to the back of my head. I'm at the Crystal Cave right now and it's pissing me off. Please tell me you already finished this area. I'll have to youtube and find my way through when can I get my internet back up at home. Where is crystal cave!?
In Anor Londo, outside of the Duke's Archives, sealed by a yellow fog originally, which I'm sure you can get through now.
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