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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
April 24 2015 21:50 GMT
#11541
On April 25 2015 05:42 Aocowns wrote:
they remove donation links?? holy fuck valve, better chill before youre hated more than ea

No they removed only shortlink, not actual paypal or other donation link.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
April 24 2015 22:36 GMT
#11542
I have decided I will start monetizing my posts on this forum.

It has been a lot of hard work thinking-up-of, writing and posting thousands of high quality posts on this here forum and I think its only fair I receive compensation. Nazgul and friends take a 75% cut (I am using their site after all) while 25% goes to the content creator. Me. Anyone that thinks that 'this is not fair' is just entitled and doesn't realise the realities of the modern world. My posts have changed lives and enlightened thousands, I deserve to receive money just like TB does.

You can start sending me donations through paypal while we wait for R1CH to code a more convenient button. Even reading this message without sending me money is piracy, illegal, and you should feel bad for stealing.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 24 2015 22:39 GMT
#11543
On April 25 2015 06:49 sushiko wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/G0O2R0b.jpg

Can't wait for steam summer sale!

In all seriousness, I hope this backfires and valve realizes this hurts everyone except Bethesda/valve.

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/33qcaj/the_experiment_has_failed_my_exit_from_the/

[Valve] Officer Mar 25 @ 4:47pm
Usual caveat: I am not a lawyer, so this does not constitute legal advice. If you are unsure, you should contact a lawyer. That said, I spoke with our lawyer and having mod A depend on mod B is fine--it doesn't matter if mod A is for sale and mod B is free, or if mod A is free or mod B is for sale.

How can valve say one modder can use another mod, regardless if it's paid or free? Then they refuse to delist his mod... Essentially valve is acting like it owns any mod in the workshop...

There is a diference in a modder using assets from another mod in his own mod, and a mod making a mod that only works if another mod is also present. It's like making a mod that requires an expansion or a DLC from the original company. Legally speaking it makes perfect sense.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 24 2015 23:06 GMT
#11544
I don't mind modders getting money for what they do. Thats why Patreon etc exists. But it seems the only one getting more money out of this is Valve.

I think they want to build a giant robot army to take over the world and they start to fear Google might achieve world domination before them so they try to get extra funding where they can.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2736 Posts
April 24 2015 23:19 GMT
#11545
On April 25 2015 06:49 sushiko wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/G0O2R0b.jpg

Can't wait for steam summer sale!

In all seriousness, I hope this backfires and valve realizes this hurts everyone except Bethesda/valve.

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/33qcaj/the_experiment_has_failed_my_exit_from_the/

[Valve] Officer Mar 25 @ 4:47pm
Usual caveat: I am not a lawyer, so this does not constitute legal advice. If you are unsure, you should contact a lawyer. That said, I spoke with our lawyer and having mod A depend on mod B is fine--it doesn't matter if mod A is for sale and mod B is free, or if mod A is free or mod B is for sale.

How can valve say one modder can use another mod, regardless if it's paid or free? Then they refuse to delist his mod... Essentially valve is acting like it owns any mod in the workshop...


Usually (in my experience) software that supports uploadable mods like this does basically grant themselves the rights to use and redistribute your contribution as they see fit.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 25 2015 13:27 GMT
#11546
On April 25 2015 07:36 zeo wrote:
I have decided I will start monetizing my posts on this forum.

It has been a lot of hard work thinking-up-of, writing and posting thousands of high quality posts on this here forum and I think its only fair I receive compensation. Nazgul and friends take a 75% cut (I am using their site after all) while 25% goes to the content creator. Me. Anyone that thinks that 'this is not fair' is just entitled and doesn't realise the realities of the modern world. My posts have changed lives and enlightened thousands, I deserve to receive money just like TB does.

You can start sending me donations through paypal while we wait for R1CH to code a more convenient button. Even reading this message without sending me money is piracy, illegal, and you should feel bad for stealing.


Yo dog, I would pay you loads to stop posting about chelsea! <3

Seems that volvo are rly smart and were on top of this situation before it even started.
They have been in talks with the SkyUI guys, which as you know have the 2nd most influential mod after skse and they bought them out. Skse will be also available through the workshop but for free.
SkyUI 5.0 will be behind a paywall and since like 99% of all complex and high quality mods use it, seems like volvo has effectively killed modding in a mere 2 days.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
April 25 2015 13:36 GMT
#11547
ill tell you, i really liked the whole elder scrolls series and how they put a lot of effort into making it a lasting experience.

But all that goodwill suddenly vanished into thin air and now ill probably not buy their next game before it goes into 50%+ sales.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
April 25 2015 14:04 GMT
#11548
Well rip skyrim then, i dont play without mods and i wont pay for them all lol.
Useless wet fish.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 25 2015 15:53 GMT
#11549
Any decent sized modsetup would cost multiple times the cost of the legendary skyrim pack at this point. Micro transactions boys, gotta fucking love modern gaming industry. And people tell me I'm behind the times when I'd still rather pay for a disc with game on it and be done instead of having to buy 3 DLCs 2 weeks after the game launched...
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 25 2015 16:31 GMT
#11550
SkyUI 5.0 will be behind a paywall and since like 99% of all complex and high quality mods use it, seems like volvo has effectively killed modding in a mere 2 days.

As far as I have heard, skyui 4.1 will remain up for free, and I would be very surprised if any mods require the new crafting menu that is apparently the change between 4.1 and 5. (As far as I know, the only reason SkyUI is ever actually required for anything is the MCM.)
http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/499516-skyui/?p=24605264

I do think there are a lot of problems with the way Valve implemented this (not least that introducing paid mods several years after Skyrim's release is a terrible idea, it might have been salveageable if they'd done this on day 0), though I think the idea of paid mods is not necessarily bad.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 25 2015 23:09 GMT
#11551
An ama on reddit with Gaben himself right in the eye of the shitstorm.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/33uplp/mods_and_steam/
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
April 26 2015 04:39 GMT
#11552
On a positive note, now there's no reason to feel bad for buying games off G2A and the likes =)
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 27 2015 23:19 GMT
#11553
WE WON!
FREEDOOOOOOM! xD
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
April 27 2015 23:29 GMT
#11554
IN YOUR FACE BETHESDA.

IN YOUR .... VALVE.

ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 27 2015 23:35 GMT
#11555
Wow....hahaha.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 27 2015 23:39 GMT
#11556
Apparently they looked at the hats in games like doto/csgo/tf2 and thought "ey lets do the same, it works out there" but it clearly a sophisticated gameplay altering mod can not be treated the same as mere cosmetic mods, who would have thought?
Damn it beth, why so stoopid.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 28 2015 02:12 GMT
#11557
Ha, that's great news!

For anyone confused about the cheering, this was posted on steam forums
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 28 2015 02:38 GMT
#11558
Not so fast because the system will be reviewed and implemented again in the future at a smaller scale so hopefully this system is a better alternative. Valve will not give up on a business opportunity.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 06:39:52
April 28 2015 06:39 GMT
#11559
I wonder what will happen to mods which moved to paid versions immediately(midas magic, wet and cold etc) Some of them even removed their mods from nexusmods. They had pretty bad comments after switching, now they won't even have the money from steam users as well Really bad PR for those mods
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
April 28 2015 07:29 GMT
#11560
hmm so Skyrim mods are free again ? Cool
n_n
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