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On November 15 2011 14:11 antelope591 wrote:
Hmm I thought the quest lines were quite good....seemed like a lot more work went into them than Oblivion. I even enjoy doing the random quests you get from town to town which I never did in the other games cause they were always boring and generic. Maybe its just cause the world is so pretty to look at. The only thing that's disappointing is that Bathesda got really lazy with the multiple paths in this game. In Fallout 3 there was always multiple ways to complete a quest and the speech option was really important which I liked. That's basically non existent in this game....it was always something I enjoyed a lot in their games kinda disappointing to see the quests being so linear this time around =[
Agree on parts of your argument of the quests being linear, but I think its only for some quests (such as class quests) other quests gives more freedom and the outcomes of the quest is based on how you undertake it. For instance, the redguard lady quest in dragonsreach where you either have the choice to tell her off to the guards that are looking for her or kill the guards.
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I spent 2 hours doing nothing but pickpocketing and also Archery-train abusing, and now I have a level 16 character with 67 Pickpocket, 52 Archery, and 36 Sneak.
You can imagine how well I do in combat >.>
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On November 15 2011 14:11 antelope591 wrote:
Hmm I thought the quest lines were quite good....seemed like a lot more work went into them than Oblivion. I even enjoy doing the random quests you get from town to town which I never did in the other games cause they were always boring and generic. Maybe its just cause the world is so pretty to look at. The only thing that's disappointing is that Bathesda got really lazy with the multiple paths in this game. In Fallout 3 there was always multiple ways to complete a quest and the speech option was really important which I liked. That's basically non existent in this game....it was always something I enjoyed a lot in their games kinda disappointing to see the quests being so linear this time around =[
The only thing I hate about the random quests is that in the beginning game they often try to get you to explore to the edge of the map, but it's basically impossible at that point. Wish they took your level into account when generating those quests, I hate cluttered quest logs.
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On November 15 2011 14:21 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 14:11 antelope591 wrote:
Hmm I thought the quest lines were quite good....seemed like a lot more work went into them than Oblivion. I even enjoy doing the random quests you get from town to town which I never did in the other games cause they were always boring and generic. Maybe its just cause the world is so pretty to look at. The only thing that's disappointing is that Bathesda got really lazy with the multiple paths in this game. In Fallout 3 there was always multiple ways to complete a quest and the speech option was really important which I liked. That's basically non existent in this game....it was always something I enjoyed a lot in their games kinda disappointing to see the quests being so linear this time around =[ The only thing I hate about the random quests is that in the beginning game they often try to get you to explore to the edge of the map, but it's basically impossible at that point. Wish they took your level into account when generating those quests, I hate cluttered quest logs.
you can just carriage ride over to the nearest city and then do it, i'm not walking all the way there without a horse f dat.
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On November 15 2011 14:01 Neurosis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 13:16 semantics wrote:On November 15 2011 13:14 OblivionMage wrote:On November 15 2011 13:01 Blondinbengt wrote:
I'm a bit torn about Skyrim so far, the overall gameplay is awesome but the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild quest lines sucked so hard it made me want to cry.
Just started the Mage Guild quest line, hoping that one will be better, don't see how it could be any worse. Hahahahaha, if the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild quest-lines made you want to cry, don't even bother with the Mages Guild, else you'll be weeping before long. So short, so linear, and the story isn't even that majestic. It's also easer to do as a warrior then a mage at low levels imo All the quest lines are complete garbage in Skyrim. After about 20ish hours of playing this game I've done the exact same dungeon fetch quest over and over just in different locations. The writing behind the quests is equally as bad and there aren't even multiple dialogue options for your character. It just feels weird to have the player choose his dialogue and there is almost always only one option. Very lazy and uninspired. Also, as others have mentioned the faction quest lines are also incredibly short which just makes it even harder to stomach.
Stop whining. This game is incredible. I find you get what you put into a game like this. I've been playing every day and I haven't come close to finishing any of the guilds because I've been so busy talking/exploring/trading/training/customizing/etc.
I guess if you only play this game to knock out missions over and over instead of playing open-ended and exploring and creating a character, it would seem like garbage. But complaining about dialogue when there are thousands of characters with their own unique dialog is ridiculous.
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On November 15 2011 14:46 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Stop whining. This game is incredible. I find you get what you put into a game like this. I've been playing every day and I haven't come close to finishing any of the guilds because I've been so busy talking/exploring/trading/training/customizing/etc.
I guess if you only play this game to knock out missions over and over instead of playing open-ended and exploring and creating a character, it would seem like garbage. But complaining about dialogue when there are thousands of characters with their own unique dialog is ridiculous.
The game is great, I do love it, but that doesn't make the guild quest-lines any longer. They're each ~6 quests long (the thieves guild being the longest): after the first ~2 initiation quests, you'll start the 'big' (one might even say, majestic) quest, which will end in you being the guild-leader. Ta-da!
Edit: I think the biggest complaint comes with the comparison to Morrowind: the Morrowind Mages Guild had 33 quests from multiple NPCs, and you had some choice as to what order you completed the quests in.
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On November 15 2011 13:45 HazMat wrote:I'm having a really weird problem with the quest "Blood on the Ice." If you haven't done the quest, this will spoil it. + Show Spoiler +This quest ended for me when I walked to the Jarl's advisor and told him about the evidence I have on the court mage doing the crime. I was looking it up online and apparently you're supposed to talk to the court mage and he'll tell you that it wasn't him but Carlixto and that there will be a 2nd murder. On my quest though, the quest ended right when I spoke to the advisor and when I go to jail and talk to the mage all I can do is ask him for destruction training, I even unlocked his cell ffs. I know my quest is technically done and I should just be happy but I feel bad for the mage and I want that Carlixto guy locked up. wutdo?
I ended up doing the quest the same way as you. What happens is....
+ Show Spoiler +Another person is murdered starting a new quest. The mage helps you catch Carlixto.
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is it possible to do the mage quests without being a mage?
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dunno what all the hype is with this game, All rpgs are the same.. go fetch a pail of water down the river and bring it back to me .. Ive spent 5 hours with this game and its so boring, im walking for miles, i have no idea what im doing, i lock picked some door, got caught and sent to jail and lost all my gear, this game is crap.
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^^Clearly you dislike hiking, because this is the best hiking game ever made
On November 15 2011 15:02 Whole wrote:
is it possible to do the mage quests without being a mage?
Yeah, as far as I know there is only one prerequisite to joining the guild:
+ Show Spoiler +Knowing the spell 'healing hands'. lolol
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On November 15 2011 14:19 Niptik wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 14:11 antelope591 wrote:
Hmm I thought the quest lines were quite good....seemed like a lot more work went into them than Oblivion. I even enjoy doing the random quests you get from town to town which I never did in the other games cause they were always boring and generic. Maybe its just cause the world is so pretty to look at. The only thing that's disappointing is that Bathesda got really lazy with the multiple paths in this game. In Fallout 3 there was always multiple ways to complete a quest and the speech option was really important which I liked. That's basically non existent in this game....it was always something I enjoyed a lot in their games kinda disappointing to see the quests being so linear this time around =[ Agree on parts of your argument of the quests being linear, but I think its only for some quests (such as class quests) other quests gives more freedom and the outcomes of the quest is based on how you undertake it. For instance, the redguard lady quest in dragonsreach where you either have the choice to tell her off to the guards that are looking for her or kill the guards.
how the hell do you go about working out who she is? i have no idea what a redguard even is :D
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On November 15 2011 11:26 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 11:05 decemberscalm wrote:
Currently level 22. Been extremely impressed so far. Buried in a mountain of side quests. I wish I could make notes on the map to remember what is what.
I skipped dwarven and orcish heavy armor and went straight to Ebony armor from steel.Made my riches, traveled to all the smithies, bought up all their hide, iron ore/ingots and spammed leather bracers/daggers. Getting lvl 80 smithy is a cakewalk, and if you can find the Ebony mine next to the Orc encampment with loaded with veins you can finally be the coolest kid in school.Mined enough ore in one trip, while ignoring the Orcs telling me I shouldn't be here, to make a full heavy armor set+shield+mace, and upgrade 4 things as well. Storyline is gonna be waaaaaaaay to easy now. Time to pump up the difficulty.
I think its amusing how the animations for one handers are meant for slicy weapons. Getting a critical hit on opponents, you kinda slice your weapon across them. But I have a mace! Stabbing and slicing across does nutzing! Directions to this ebony mine please good sir?
+ Show Spoiler +head 4 o clock from windhelm, if that fails, check the wiki
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On November 15 2011 15:06 jinixxx123 wrote:
dunno what all the hype is with this game, All rpgs are the same.. go fetch a pail of water down the river and bring it back to me .. Ive spent 5 hours with this game and its so boring, im walking for miles, i have no idea what im doing, i lock picked some door, got caught and sent to jail and lost all my gear, this game is crap.
LOL... no offence, but you said you have no idea what you're doing explains everything already.
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On November 15 2011 15:09 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 14:19 Niptik wrote:On November 15 2011 14:11 antelope591 wrote:
Hmm I thought the quest lines were quite good....seemed like a lot more work went into them than Oblivion. I even enjoy doing the random quests you get from town to town which I never did in the other games cause they were always boring and generic. Maybe its just cause the world is so pretty to look at. The only thing that's disappointing is that Bathesda got really lazy with the multiple paths in this game. In Fallout 3 there was always multiple ways to complete a quest and the speech option was really important which I liked. That's basically non existent in this game....it was always something I enjoyed a lot in their games kinda disappointing to see the quests being so linear this time around =[ Agree on parts of your argument of the quests being linear, but I think its only for some quests (such as class quests) other quests gives more freedom and the outcomes of the quest is based on how you undertake it. For instance, the redguard lady quest in dragonsreach where you either have the choice to tell her off to the guards that are looking for her or kill the guards. how the hell do you go about working out who she is? i have no idea what a redguard even is :D
Redguards are the black people for lack of a better explanation. Look for a person with darker skin than everybody else. + Show Spoiler [hint] +The inn is a good place to start
On November 15 2011 15:11 decemberscalm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 11:26 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2011 11:05 decemberscalm wrote:
Currently level 22. Been extremely impressed so far. Buried in a mountain of side quests. I wish I could make notes on the map to remember what is what.
I skipped dwarven and orcish heavy armor and went straight to Ebony armor from steel.Made my riches, traveled to all the smithies, bought up all their hide, iron ore/ingots and spammed leather bracers/daggers. Getting lvl 80 smithy is a cakewalk, and if you can find the Ebony mine next to the Orc encampment with loaded with veins you can finally be the coolest kid in school.Mined enough ore in one trip, while ignoring the Orcs telling me I shouldn't be here, to make a full heavy armor set+shield+mace, and upgrade 4 things as well. Storyline is gonna be waaaaaaaay to easy now. Time to pump up the difficulty.
I think its amusing how the animations for one handers are meant for slicy weapons. Getting a critical hit on opponents, you kinda slice your weapon across them. But I have a mace! Stabbing and slicing across does nutzing! Directions to this ebony mine please good sir? + Show Spoiler +head 4 o clock from windhelm, if that fails, check the wiki
Thanks, but my ebony armor was crafted hours ago :p
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I'm having a lot of trouble finding orc blood to harvest for the quest Discerning the Transmundane. Anyone know any good locations to kill an orc?
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On November 15 2011 06:45 butchji wrote:
Is it worth playing for someone who never played any Elder Scrolls and doesn't like role-playing games that much?
yes. you wouldn't be the first person like that who enjoyed skyrim
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On November 15 2011 15:13 slam wrote:
I'm having a lot of trouble finding orc blood to harvest for the quest Discerning the Transmundane. Anyone know any good locations to kill an orc?
Right outside that mine is an orc stronghold.
(post above yours)
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quick question for y'all...
I'm going to not be on this specific computer for about a week and a half, I own skyrim for the PC, bought it through steam. I was wondering, is my saved game tied to my computer or my skyrim account? During the week and a half I'm going to be using a different computer and I'd like to continue with the saved point and character I have, rather than having to make a new one on the different machine
tl;dr-ish: is your saved game tied to your steam account or your computer?
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Skyrim, where amazing happens. (I didn't kill that guy, found him like that)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VUoB0.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SU2Y5.jpg)
ALSO:, a dragon attacked my camp, accidently his flame hit 3 horses, AND THE HORSES BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THAT DRAGON... A scene you can witness once in a life time....
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