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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
So many glitches in the Bioware Servers lately :/ Lol @ "Current Points: -33" >.> Edit: Okay, it normalized itself when I restarted the game :o | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
Also I have a new theory about the ending (spoilers obv): + Show Spoiler + This is all EA's master plan. ME3's ending is purposefully bad. The devs left it ambiguous for smart, critically-thinking fans to then latch on to the indoctrination theory, explaining that when Shepard was knocked unconscious by Harbinger's laser, he was shown a hallucination (which was the game's original ending). If you choose to destroy the Reapers, and your EMS is high enough, you are shown a small clip of Shepard waking up under some rubble, and breathing. Not everyone will agree at first, but the smart people will build up enough evidence that the doubters can't refute it, and they will eventually succumb to logic/peer pressure/mob mentality. Furthermore, Bioware employees have told us to hold onto our saves in preparation for DLC. This can only mean that they have already made the REAL ending, which will start after you wake up from your hallucination. The catch is that you'll have to pay for this ending DLC. We will all give EA our money so we can get closure for the series, and have our questions answered. EA has indoctrinated us. You know you will. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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Iyerbeth
England2410 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:25 deth2munkies wrote: Can someone just answer me this: Is it possible to get a decent number of forces with 50% readiness and full Renegade? It seems like you lose like 4-5 different possible sources of troops so I'm not even sure I want to play the game a second time. It is impossible to get the "best" ending with 50% readiness currently, even with every correct decision in 1 and 2. | ||
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Miyoshino
314 Posts
No way in hell does EA expect their customers to see them as evil, greedy and devious. This was a huge PR farce that reduced sales. This can never ever be deliberate or it is even a bigger fail than it is now. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:37 Miyoshino wrote: Rofl I love it how the so-called 'indocrtination theory'-people don't only see themselves as smart and critical thinking. They also need to express it every time. No way in hell does EA expect their customers to see them as evil, greedy and devious. This was a huge PR farce that reduced sales. This can never ever be deliberate or it is even a bigger fail than it is now. Why not? People would buy an ending DLC purely out of the need for closure and having their questions answered. And if the ending is good, no one is going to even care that they had to pay for it. If this plan works out, EA gets even more money, with little backlash. | ||
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Iyerbeth
England2410 Posts
If I was one of their writers right now, I'd be absolutely gutted that even the most supportive of that section of fans are assuming it was so bad it's not real. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:45 Iyerbeth wrote: My favourite part about it, is the ending is so bad that such a large portion of their most loyal fan base is split between "WTF??" and "It was so bad it has to be intentional for something else!". If I was one of their writers right now, I'd be absolutely gutted that even the most supportive are assuming it was so bad it's not real. That's not true, it's just that people who were satisfied by the ending aren't as vocal. I think the ending was fine, I'm not going to spend my time writing on every forum how I feel about it, while people who hated it feel the need to let everyone in the world know their opinion. People whining about how fixing the geth-quarian relationship and EDI-joker relationship speaks against the ending... you failed to unlock the synthesis ending? You bridge the gap between organics and synthetics, then you literally unite the two. It makes perfect sense. | ||
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Iyerbeth
England2410 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:58 Tobberoth wrote: That's not true, it's just that people who were satisfied by the ending aren't as vocal. I think the ending was fine, I'm not going to spend my time writing on every forum how I feel about it, while people who hated it feel the need to let everyone in the world know their opinion. People whining about how fixing the geth-quarian relationship and EDI-joker relationship speaks against the ending... you failed to unlock the synthesis ending? You bridge the gap between organics and synthetics, then you literally unite the two. It makes perfect sense. Actually the Synthesis ending is the admission that they can't live together, so they must all become the same. Completely counter intuitive to the game up to that point and a violation of everyone in the galaxy's right to choose, and a violation of their bodies. But that's only a minor issue of those being complained at. The bigger problems are the random character introduction who just dictates one of 3 endings (or 6 if you're being generous) which are all idenitcal and the serious plot holes and developer lies leading up to the launch. But yeah I know there are people who're fine with the ending (a view point I literally don't understand at all) but that's why my post was specifically regarding "a large portion of their fan base". I definately didn't mean to suggest everyone is upset with it, but I can see how it could be taken that way so I'm going to edit it a little to be clearer. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:58 Tobberoth wrote: That's not true, it's just that people who were satisfied by the ending aren't as vocal. I think the ending was fine, I'm not going to spend my time writing on every forum how I feel about it, while people who hated it feel the need to let everyone in the world know their opinion. People whining about how fixing the geth-quarian relationship and EDI-joker relationship speaks against the ending... you failed to unlock the synthesis ending? You bridge the gap between organics and synthetics, then you literally unite the two. It makes perfect sense. The Synthesis choice is the dumbest as its description is super vague and doesn't mean anything. Everybody becomes part synthetic? What the hell does that mean, and why will it cause galactic peace? | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:27 Iyerbeth wrote: It is impossible to get the "best" ending with 50% readiness currently, even with every correct decision in 1 and 2. How much do you need for best ending? | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On March 21 2012 18:14 shadowboxer wrote: Is there any else who feels like the indoctrination theory puts anyone who didn't choose destruction in a bad spot? Well given how the paragon ending to all the indoctrinated baddies is talking them into suicide, I could see indoctrinated Shepard offing himself to save the galaxy. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On March 21 2012 23:03 ZAiNs wrote: The Synthesis choice is the dumbest as its description is super vague and doesn't mean anything. Everybody becomes part synthetic? What the hell does that mean, and why will it cause galactic peace? No, the terms sythentic and organic becomes useless since all are made of the same new form of DNA, so there's no inherent conflict between the two any more. It's not vague at all and I really don't see any problem with it. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Plus; + Show Spoiler + Shepard blacks out three times. Over the com Anderson describes stuff that simply isn't there, there's only one corridor leading to the The Illusive Man makes him shoot Anderson, after Anderson dies Shepard is bleeding from the spot he shot Anderson. The Child has the voices of Shep and Femshep coming out of the left and right speakers. The black tentacle shit on the sides of the screen mean he is at the very least fighting indoctrination. Nothing the Child says makes a blind bit of sense but Shepard accepts it readily. I mean for fucks sakes if there's a weapon with the ability to wipe out all synthetic life in the galaxy then why the fuck build a race of super synthetics to destroy organic life every cycle to stop them building synthetics. It's either indoctrination or it's fucking retarded. I certainly feel bad for Bioware's writers if the latter is the case because what the hell were they thinking. And if it is indoctrination then it's just annoying that this brilliant trilogy has a 'dream' ending. Rest of the game though? Fucking fantastic. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On March 21 2012 23:07 Tobberoth wrote: No, the terms sythentic and organic becomes useless since all are made of the same new form of DNA, so there's no inherent conflict between the two any more. It's not vague at all and I really don't see any problem with it. Er...I actually was really confused by this ending, as it implied the creation of a new type of DNA. Does that literally mean that every living thing in the universe becomes partly machine and vice versa? Because that would be so weird I can't even express it. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On March 21 2012 23:07 Tobberoth wrote: No, the terms sythentic and organic becomes useless since all are made of the same new form of DNA, so there's no inherent conflict between the two any more. It's not vague at all and I really don't see any problem with it. Care to explain it to me? What would a post-synthesis human look like? | ||
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Iyerbeth
England2410 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [EMS Requirements] + 5000 EMS for the best, or 4000 if you just want all the choices. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:27 Iyerbeth wrote: It is impossible to get the "best" ending with 50% readiness currently, even with every correct decision in 1 and 2. Eh, it doesn't matter, the ending will suck no matter how "best" it is. I'm guessing the only difference between that one and the one I got is less people screaming over my radio during the last push in London. That said, the fact you can't get the best ending without playing multiplayer is fucking stupid, and means I'll probably just uninstall it anyway and never look back. To weigh in on the major issue: I really don't think the ending should be rewritten, it's just kind of shameful and stupid. We're entitled to our opinion based on a game, we're not entitled to actually change the storyline as we see fit, it will set a massive precedent that will lead to no one wanting to make story based games for fear of community outrage costing them a ton. The ending won't stop people from buying or playing the game, but it is going to keep Mass Effect from becoming one of those "must play" series that gamers will automatically assume future generations will either play or have heard of. On March 21 2012 23:11 ZAiNs wrote: Care to explain it to me? What would a post-synthesis human look like? If you do the synthesis ending, Joker has green electro-veins all over his face when he steps out. That's about it. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On March 21 2012 23:07 Tobberoth wrote: No, the terms sythentic and organic becomes useless since all are made of the same new form of DNA, so there's no inherent conflict between the two any more. It's not vague at all and I really don't see any problem with it. But how did everyone get changed? Did some kind of magic give everyone the new DNA suddenly? What happened to everyone in the Citadel? Why does this cause the mass relays to be destroyed? Where is Joker and the Normandy? How the heck is my party on the ship if they were all on the ground with me? Why is Buzz Aldrin talking to some kid at the end? Why does this even matter since everyone in the galaxy is dead anyway (since Arrival showed us that mass relays blowing up has the same scale as a supernova)? | ||
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