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Slidd
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eatpraylove
United States53 Posts
On March 15 2011 22:49 snow2.0 wrote: These games didn't even have cavalry blasting through infantry ranks. Yay for shogun 2, were stuff actually fights again. The gunpowder games are mostly ranged combat, true, but cavalry charges and melee combat happen. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
On March 16 2011 03:01 eatpraylove wrote: The gunpowder games are mostly ranged combat, true, but cavalry charges and melee combat happen. they happen, but they dont run things down/thrust people away. They already didn't in Medieval 2. now they do again  | ||
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
On March 16 2011 02:13 Gigaudas wrote: Tell me more! Ok, Combat flows incredably well and i've found myself and my opponent manouver for a fair few minutes trying to gain a positional advantage before battle proper even starts. The buuilding mechanic works extremely well, ive played one person who 'camped' in a positional area and refused to move, so i capped two buildings, one which imporved my units melee combat and another which improved my units attack and defence, with these buffs i was able to break his hill defence. This provides a nice advantage to the aggressive player who may find himself forced to fight in a disadvantageous areas. Combat is fast paced, but not uncontrolable and you dont need gosu apm. ou do however need to be watching for things can change quickly. Whilst only 1 action may be needed to fend off flanking cavalry you still need to be on the ball to see it coming. the end of one battle http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/825/shogun22011031517301063.jpg | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
Get on today, says I gotta wait until it's officially released<>? | ||
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Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
On March 16 2011 03:58 xccam wrote: Ok, Combat flows incredably well and i've found myself and my opponent manouver for a fair few minutes trying to gain a positional advantage before battle proper even starts. The buuilding mechanic works extremely well, ive played one person who 'camped' in a positional area and refused to move, so i capped two buildings, one which imporved my units melee combat and another which improved my units attack and defence, with these buffs i was able to break his hill defence. This provides a nice advantage to the aggressive player who may find himself forced to fight in a disadvantageous areas. Combat is fast paced, but not uncontrolable and you dont need gosu apm. ou do however need to be watching for things can change quickly. Whilst only 1 action may be needed to fend off flanking cavalry you still need to be on the ball to see it coming. the end of one battle http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/825/shogun22011031517301063.jpg Is there a ladder for skirmish games? I saw a video mentioning "veteran units" in multiplayer, will people who 'play more games have advantages over people who play less (RPG style?). This one is important, I can't STAND shit like that (CoD, AoE3, pretty much every fucking game released lately). | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
whats all this conquest campaign map and avatar shit? i dont like it T_T can someone point me in the direction of a REGULAR online game? | ||
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
On March 16 2011 05:38 optical630 wrote: can someone point me in the direction of a REGULAR online game? There's a game called Starcraft you may have heard of. | ||
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Ulfsark
United States958 Posts
Think if I activate my game via steam if i can install it via steam? I know its a long shot but I am not sure if they will let me return it. | ||
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
On March 16 2011 05:38 optical630 wrote: why isny there a standard skirmish mode like in the other games where i pick my army, and we fucking brawl whats all this conquest campaign map and avatar shit? i dont like it T_T can someone point me in the direction of a REGULAR online game? There is, have you played the avatar multiplayer it actualy works very well. There are normal total war multiplayer if you dont wanna do that. On March 16 2011 04:21 Gigaudas wrote: Is there a ladder for skirmish games? I saw a video mentioning "veteran units" in multiplayer, will people who 'play more games have advantages over people who play less (RPG style?). This one is important, I can't STAND shit like that (CoD, AoE3, pretty much every fucking game released lately). Yes, Veteran units dont have a big buf, and crucialy, they cost more to recruit. Lets say for example Yari Ashigaru cost 350 koku, and level one veteran unit will cost 400 koku. Also you will get matched up vs people your level who have equal access to veteran units. Veteran units do not become super men, for each level they gain ONE point of a single stat, say morale from 5 to 6. Bonus vs cavalry from 10 to 11. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
You can change the battle difficulty once in a campaign through the game settings menu. -Jack Lusted So yes, you can change battle difficulty for everyone who has had a problem with the campaign AI getting too much free junk. | ||
Sayle
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Edit: there's a button to enable minimap. I'm so dumb :/ | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On March 16 2011 09:18 Ulfsark wrote: I bought the hard copy of this game since i had a gift card but my laptop which I play wont read the discs so i cant install. Think if I activate my game via steam if i can install it via steam? I know its a long shot but I am not sure if they will let me return it. You're in luck. Just activate your game through Steam via your box code, and you can download it through Steam. Ez Pz. | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
no thats not what i meant, the game has no skirmish mode like in the rome or medieval 2 (didnt play etw or ntw so i cant comment) instead there is that stupid avatar thing, i dont want to conquer a whole map to "win" my way to all the units, i want them from the get go. this isnt fun. its just forced rpg elements making the multiplayer imbalanced as one person could have unlocked a lot of the better units whereas someone may not have. and i especially dont like the idea of veteran units >_> i hope they bring a patch to implement skirmish mode i dont want rpg in my rts T_T its a shit idea. | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:00 optical630 wrote: @ xccam no thats not what i meant, the game has no skirmish mode like in the rome or medieval 2 (didnt play etw or ntw so i cant comment) instead there is that stupid avatar thing, i dont want to conquer a whole map to "win" my way to all the units, i want them from the get go. this isnt fun. its just forced rpg elements making the multiplayer imbalanced as one person could have unlocked a lot of the better units whereas someone may not have. and i especially dont like the idea of veteran units >_> i hope they bring a patch to implement skirmish mode i dont want rpg in my rts T_T its a shit idea. I think it is fun. If everybody has all the same units then it doesn't feel like there is as much strategy. But instead, if you are conquering provinces, you'll have to think more before just rolling across a country like you could in empire: total war. If you think you're going to need some horses, then to knock out a province that provides them. As for veteran units.....Meh | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On March 16 2011 23:55 Sm3agol wrote: You're in luck. Just activate your game through Steam via your box code, and you can download it through Steam. Ez Pz. Gigantic download however, it takes hours. For some reason even after I installed the game I had to redownload it again after activating the limited edition shit. I don't think it's nice to force steam when it takes a day or two to get the game installed. | ||
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:00 optical630 wrote: @ xccam no thats not what i meant, the game has no skirmish mode like in the rome or medieval 2 (didnt play etw or ntw so i cant comment) instead there is that stupid avatar thing, i dont want to conquer a whole map to "win" my way to all the units, i want them from the get go. this isnt fun. its just forced rpg elements making the multiplayer imbalanced as one person could have unlocked a lot of the better units whereas someone may not have. and i especially dont like the idea of veteran units >_> i hope they bring a patch to implement skirmish mode i dont want rpg in my rts T_T its a shit idea. es there is still a custom battle mode, you couldnt take that out of the game  Also the system is set up so new players play against new players, therefore there will never be a situation where you are on all basic troops and your opponent is using all samurai. Also costs are balanced so even these all ashigaru units can take on samurai by numbers. | ||
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mathemagician1986
Germany549 Posts
ME2 was great though, I can still remember a battle I had basically lost, but I managed to "herd" the 7 remaining troops to the edge of the map, and then charged with my General (he only had 8 horses left). Thankfully the AI fled, and as he was right next to the edge of the map I won Took me like 40 min to do this, but man was I proud! | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
On March 17 2011 01:43 xccam wrote: es there is still a custom battle mode, you couldnt take that out of the game Also the system is set up so new players play against new players, therefore there will never be a situation where you are on all basic troops and your opponent is using all samurai. Also costs are balanced so even these all ashigaru units can take on samurai by numbers. custom battle games are for vs ai only | ||
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