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Slidd
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
29 Posts
March 15 2011 17:53 GMT
#221
For anyone that is having problems with installing: http://geekmontage.com/texts/game-fix-total-war-shogun-2-crash-freeze-lag-no-sound/
eatpraylove
Profile Joined October 2010
United States53 Posts
March 15 2011 18:01 GMT
#222
On March 15 2011 22:49 snow2.0 wrote:
These games didn't even have cavalry blasting through infantry ranks. Yay for shogun 2, were stuff actually fights again.


The gunpowder games are mostly ranged combat, true, but cavalry charges and melee combat happen.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
March 15 2011 18:03 GMT
#223
On March 16 2011 03:01 eatpraylove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 22:49 snow2.0 wrote:
These games didn't even have cavalry blasting through infantry ranks. Yay for shogun 2, were stuff actually fights again.


The gunpowder games are mostly ranged combat, true, but cavalry charges and melee combat happen.

they happen, but they dont run things down/thrust people away.

They already didn't in Medieval 2.

now they do again
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1154 Posts
March 15 2011 18:58 GMT
#224
On March 16 2011 02:13 Gigaudas wrote:
Tell me more!


Ok,

Combat flows incredably well and i've found myself and my opponent manouver for a fair few minutes trying to gain a positional advantage before battle proper even starts.

The buuilding mechanic works extremely well, ive played one person who 'camped' in a positional area and refused to move, so i capped two buildings, one which imporved my units melee combat and another which improved my units attack and defence, with these buffs i was able to break his hill defence. This provides a nice advantage to the aggressive player who may find himself forced to fight in a disadvantageous areas.

Combat is fast paced, but not uncontrolable and you dont need gosu apm. ou do however need to be watching for things can change quickly. Whilst only 1 action may be needed to fend off flanking cavalry you still need to be on the ball to see it coming.

the end of one battle
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/825/shogun22011031517301063.jpg
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
March 15 2011 19:01 GMT
#225
I got it on steam, preloaded it last night

Get on today, says I gotta wait until it's officially released<>?
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
March 15 2011 19:21 GMT
#226
On March 16 2011 03:58 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 02:13 Gigaudas wrote:
Tell me more!


Ok,

Combat flows incredably well and i've found myself and my opponent manouver for a fair few minutes trying to gain a positional advantage before battle proper even starts.

The buuilding mechanic works extremely well, ive played one person who 'camped' in a positional area and refused to move, so i capped two buildings, one which imporved my units melee combat and another which improved my units attack and defence, with these buffs i was able to break his hill defence. This provides a nice advantage to the aggressive player who may find himself forced to fight in a disadvantageous areas.

Combat is fast paced, but not uncontrolable and you dont need gosu apm. ou do however need to be watching for things can change quickly. Whilst only 1 action may be needed to fend off flanking cavalry you still need to be on the ball to see it coming.

the end of one battle
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/825/shogun22011031517301063.jpg


Is there a ladder for skirmish games?

I saw a video mentioning "veteran units" in multiplayer, will people who 'play more games have advantages over people who play less (RPG style?). This one is important, I can't STAND shit like that (CoD, AoE3, pretty much every fucking game released lately).
I
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
March 15 2011 20:38 GMT
#227
why isny there a standard skirmish mode like in the other games where i pick my army, and we fucking brawl

whats all this conquest campaign map and avatar shit? i dont like it T_T

can someone point me in the direction of a REGULAR online game?
Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
March 15 2011 23:09 GMT
#228
On March 16 2011 05:38 optical630 wrote:
can someone point me in the direction of a REGULAR online game?


There's a game called Starcraft you may have heard of.
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
March 16 2011 00:18 GMT
#229
I bought the hard copy of this game since i had a gift card but my laptop which I play wont read the discs so i cant install.

Think if I activate my game via steam if i can install it via steam? I know its a long shot but I am not sure if they will let me return it.
gg wp
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1154 Posts
March 16 2011 07:25 GMT
#230
On March 16 2011 05:38 optical630 wrote:
why isny there a standard skirmish mode like in the other games where i pick my army, and we fucking brawl

whats all this conquest campaign map and avatar shit? i dont like it T_T

can someone point me in the direction of a REGULAR online game?


There is, have you played the avatar multiplayer it actualy works very well.
There are normal total war multiplayer if you dont wanna do that.

On March 16 2011 04:21 Gigaudas wrote:

Is there a ladder for skirmish games?

I saw a video mentioning "veteran units" in multiplayer, will people who 'play more games have advantages over people who play less (RPG style?). This one is important, I can't STAND shit like that (CoD, AoE3, pretty much every fucking game released lately).


Yes,

Veteran units dont have a big buf, and crucialy, they cost more to recruit. Lets say for example Yari Ashigaru cost 350 koku, and level one veteran unit will cost 400 koku. Also you will get matched up vs people your level who have equal access to veteran units.

Veteran units do not become super men, for each level they gain ONE point of a single stat, say morale from 5 to 6. Bonus vs cavalry from 10 to 11.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 12:56:56
March 16 2011 12:56 GMT
#231
Hey guys, I just found this posting at totalwar.org (community oldbie site):

You can change the battle difficulty once in a campaign through the game settings menu.
-Jack Lusted



So yes, you can change battle difficulty for everyone who has had a problem with the campaign AI getting too much free junk.
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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 19:59:20
March 16 2011 13:13 GMT
#232
I'm loving the game so far.

Edit: there's a button to enable minimap. I'm so dumb :/
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
March 16 2011 13:17 GMT
#233
Are you sure you can't enable it?
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
March 16 2011 14:55 GMT
#234
On March 16 2011 09:18 Ulfsark wrote:
I bought the hard copy of this game since i had a gift card but my laptop which I play wont read the discs so i cant install.

Think if I activate my game via steam if i can install it via steam? I know its a long shot but I am not sure if they will let me return it.

You're in luck. Just activate your game through Steam via your box code, and you can download it through Steam. Ez Pz.
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
March 16 2011 16:00 GMT
#235
@ xccam

no thats not what i meant, the game has no skirmish mode like in the rome or medieval 2 (didnt play etw or ntw so i cant comment)

instead there is that stupid avatar thing, i dont want to conquer a whole map to "win" my way to all the units, i want them from the get go. this isnt fun. its just forced rpg elements making the multiplayer imbalanced as one person could have unlocked a lot of the better units whereas someone may not have. and i especially dont like the idea of veteran units >_> i hope they bring a patch to implement skirmish mode

i dont want rpg in my rts T_T its a shit idea.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
March 16 2011 16:41 GMT
#236
On March 17 2011 01:00 optical630 wrote:
@ xccam

no thats not what i meant, the game has no skirmish mode like in the rome or medieval 2 (didnt play etw or ntw so i cant comment)

instead there is that stupid avatar thing, i dont want to conquer a whole map to "win" my way to all the units, i want them from the get go. this isnt fun. its just forced rpg elements making the multiplayer imbalanced as one person could have unlocked a lot of the better units whereas someone may not have. and i especially dont like the idea of veteran units >_> i hope they bring a patch to implement skirmish mode

i dont want rpg in my rts T_T its a shit idea.

I think it is fun. If everybody has all the same units then it doesn't feel like there is as much strategy. But instead, if you are conquering provinces, you'll have to think more before just rolling across a country like you could in empire: total war. If you think you're going to need some horses, then to knock out a province that provides them.
As for veteran units.....Meh
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
March 16 2011 16:41 GMT
#237
On March 16 2011 23:55 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 09:18 Ulfsark wrote:
I bought the hard copy of this game since i had a gift card but my laptop which I play wont read the discs so i cant install.

Think if I activate my game via steam if i can install it via steam? I know its a long shot but I am not sure if they will let me return it.

You're in luck. Just activate your game through Steam via your box code, and you can download it through Steam. Ez Pz.


Gigantic download however, it takes hours. For some reason even after I installed the game I had to redownload it again after activating the limited edition shit. I don't think it's nice to force steam when it takes a day or two to get the game installed.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1154 Posts
March 16 2011 16:43 GMT
#238
On March 17 2011 01:00 optical630 wrote:
@ xccam

no thats not what i meant, the game has no skirmish mode like in the rome or medieval 2 (didnt play etw or ntw so i cant comment)

instead there is that stupid avatar thing, i dont want to conquer a whole map to "win" my way to all the units, i want them from the get go. this isnt fun. its just forced rpg elements making the multiplayer imbalanced as one person could have unlocked a lot of the better units whereas someone may not have. and i especially dont like the idea of veteran units >_> i hope they bring a patch to implement skirmish mode

i dont want rpg in my rts T_T its a shit idea.


es there is still a custom battle mode, you couldnt take that out of the game

Also the system is set up so new players play against new players, therefore there will never be a situation where you are on all basic troops and your opponent is using all samurai. Also costs are balanced so even these all ashigaru units can take on samurai by numbers.

mathemagician1986
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany549 Posts
March 16 2011 16:54 GMT
#239
I'm definately going to try this game. Never liked TW Empire much, as the AI was so stupid. Either, they totally shot themselves apart, or my troops just started fleeing for no reason at all. So random.

ME2 was great though, I can still remember a battle I had basically lost, but I managed to "herd" the 7 remaining troops to the edge of the map, and then charged with my General (he only had 8 horses left). Thankfully the AI fled, and as he was right next to the edge of the map I won Took me like 40 min to do this, but man was I proud!
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
March 16 2011 18:39 GMT
#240
On March 17 2011 01:43 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 01:00 optical630 wrote:
@ xccam

no thats not what i meant, the game has no skirmish mode like in the rome or medieval 2 (didnt play etw or ntw so i cant comment)

instead there is that stupid avatar thing, i dont want to conquer a whole map to "win" my way to all the units, i want them from the get go. this isnt fun. its just forced rpg elements making the multiplayer imbalanced as one person could have unlocked a lot of the better units whereas someone may not have. and i especially dont like the idea of veteran units >_> i hope they bring a patch to implement skirmish mode

i dont want rpg in my rts T_T its a shit idea.


es there is still a custom battle mode, you couldnt take that out of the game

Also the system is set up so new players play against new players, therefore there will never be a situation where you are on all basic troops and your opponent is using all samurai. Also costs are balanced so even these all ashigaru units can take on samurai by numbers.



custom battle games are for vs ai only
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