Shogun: Total War 2 - Page 11

On March 15 2011 22:06 snow2.0 wrote:
just what i expected from a steam requiring game, really.

On March 15 2011 21:56 GTR wrote:
... but I'd rather have ROTK XII by KOEI than TK:TW

On March 15 2011 21:56 GTR wrote:
So hyped for this, Shogun was the only TW game I liked along with ME. Now, if they did a Three Kingdoms TW....

... but I'd rather have ROTK XII by KOEI than TK:TW

On March 15 2011 22:42 FractalsOnFire wrote:


Yeah Shogun and the first Medieval got me totally hooked. All the subsequent TWs were kinda meh for me. Couldn't be bothered sitting through a campaign. I really hope shogun 2 lives up to my expectations, many hours that are supposed to be spent on uni work will instead be diverted to shogun 2 =P

On March 15 2011 22:38 GTR wrote:
Yeh, I'm so sad they decided to concentrate on Nobunaga's Ambition recently rather than ROTK games (although NA is a great series as well). ROTK X is probably my most favorite TBS game.

KOEI was such a fucking awesome game developer... then Dynasty Warriors came.

On March 15 2011 23:01 jmack wrote:
I'll never understand why Empire, and more specifically Napoleon get so much hate.

Believe it or not there are people interested in that kind of combat/military tactics. I loved them.

Rome is still my favorite though, I'm no fool. :D

Can't wait to get my hands on this one though, seems like they tried to really increase the difficulty the A.I. provides in battle, and the amount of connection you can feel to a unit; "Veteran Warriors". Seriously who isn't going to keep a personal pack of " Elite Warriors " to be feared throughout the nation; even if it's only imaginary.

Can't wait to hear some of your opinions on it, can't buy it till the end of the month, so build my anticipation.

On March 16 2011 00:32 snow2.0 wrote:
Wow, is it me or is the game really hard compared to previous total wars?

The way the AI cheats isn't even funny, 6 turns in 1 clan somehow already got destroyed, the clan next to me has as many units as i do but they're all on experience rank 2 or 3 for no reason whatsoever. I don't even have any of the good old rebels to take over closeby :E

On March 16 2011 00:41 Sm3agol wrote:

If this is really true, i'm going to rage. That is false difficulty. If the game developer has to compensate that badly for a terrible AI to provide a decent challenge for the player....something is wrong.

On March 16 2011 01:26 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Steam is "decrypting" the files now, and it keeps getting stuck at 74%
Anyone else getting this?

On March 15 2011 23:22 Latham wrote:


Empire had an especially downright retarded AI, and that's saying something. M2 vanilla without patches or Xpack was pretty terrible too at times. But then again, I choose not to remember those hideous days I played vanilla, and choose to remember all the glory I had in the Stainless Steel mod.

Rome's AI wasn't sinning with intelligence either. Battle AI was always retarded in every game as far as I remember.

People hate on Napoleon because it's like a big band-aid they put over Empire. Napoleon came out 1 year after Empire, and only corrected those errors/shipped with those features, which Empire should have had already in retail. Also, there was a community mod which added a lot of features provided by Napoleon and fixed Empire's bugs, and also set in Napoleon's time, so the community feels even more ripped off for E:N. They could have waited with Empire's release and got their shit together, but they're a company and they need to make money, I get that. It's just that it seems they keep on relying on their community (modding one especially) to keep up with the slack. Their games wouldn't even have 1/3rd of their replayability if it wasn't for the modding community.
Another thing is, they keep release games faster and faster. That's good for the hordes of average consumers that will buy it, and play it for 5 months, but the community that will play and keep this game alive for a few years onwards, would rather see more "mod-friendly" coding, and more polished games overall.
They're losing their hardcore fanbase little by little by releasing 1 game roughly every year.

I know gameplay > historical accuracy but somethings in the TW games so far are ridiculous. Look at War Dogs in Rome. Look at cannon elephants in ME2. Look at Egypt's whole roster in Rome.

On March 16 2011 00:41 Sm3agol wrote:

If this is really true, i'm going to rage. That is false difficulty. If the game developer has to compensate that badly for a terrible AI to provide a decent challenge for the player....something is wrong.

On March 16 2011 02:07 xccam wrote:
The multiplayer for this game is amazing, end of story.

On March 16 2011 02:37 Latham wrote:
aww fuck, I really should watch the tabs I post in...

Anyway, the additional experience isn't nothing new. IIRC the comp always had some kind of advantage on higher difficulties. Granted, I think it was only a morale boost and money boost, never experience which is really important.