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Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
June 21 2013 06:58 GMT
#7981
Went to my first ever legacy tournament yesterday and oooohhh god, is this format unforgiving...
Showed up with a Br reanimator deck I was playing in 2005 and that I had slightly updated.
Stomped half my opponents (namely, non control decks... Turn 2 Jin-Gitaxias WHAT YOU GONNA DO???) and was demolished by all the others (threshold was such a tough match-up). All in all, not a very fun evening, I'm probably going to focus on modern as an eternal format
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
June 21 2013 16:47 GMT
#7982
What the dicks so many people.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 21 2013 19:53 GMT
#7983
On June 22 2013 01:47 Risen wrote:
What the dicks so many people.


Hope you enjoy playing Magic, better bring your meal cause God knows you'll never get to eat lunch or dinner or see the light of day.
Get it by your hands...
NasKe_
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil570 Posts
June 21 2013 21:27 GMT
#7984
Does anyone here still drafts RTR Block? I've played 2 swiss this week and want some feedback for my draft.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
June 22 2013 01:36 GMT
#7985
On June 22 2013 06:27 NasKe_ wrote:
Does anyone here still drafts RTR Block? I've played 2 swiss this week and want some feedback for my draft.


I do. Post away.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 10:20:43
June 22 2013 10:20 GMT
#7986
On June 22 2013 04:53 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 01:47 Risen wrote:
What the dicks so many people.


Hope you enjoy playing Magic, better bring your meal cause God knows you'll never get to eat lunch or dinner or see the light of day.


This is so true, for those of you who have never played in a big tournament IRL. At Pro Tour: Berlin, there was no food at the venue. So some bloke set up a super ghetto grill outside on under 0C weather and was grilling patties and hotdogs, and selling them for 2-3 euro each. Needless to say, there was a crowd of people standing outside and eating out in the cold until someone would scream "PAIRINGS ARE UP" at which point everyone would scurry back inside, leaving many longing for sustenance.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
June 22 2013 14:00 GMT
#7987
I'm a hustler baby. Hype train choo, choo!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
June 22 2013 15:23 GMT
#7988
On June 22 2013 19:20 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 04:53 Judicator wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:47 Risen wrote:
What the dicks so many people.


Hope you enjoy playing Magic, better bring your meal cause God knows you'll never get to eat lunch or dinner or see the light of day.


This is so true, for those of you who have never played in a big tournament IRL. At Pro Tour: Berlin, there was no food at the venue. So some bloke set up a super ghetto grill outside on under 0C weather and was grilling patties and hotdogs, and selling them for 2-3 euro each. Needless to say, there was a crowd of people standing outside and eating out in the cold until someone would scream "PAIRINGS ARE UP" at which point everyone would scurry back inside, leaving many longing for sustenance.


I think the issue here is not so much the fact that there isnt food at the venue, but rather that this is a 4500 ppl GP with god knows how many rounds, let alone trying to leave and re-enter the building on time if a lunch break is planned lol
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 16:46:29
June 22 2013 16:46 GMT
#7989
On June 23 2013 00:23 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 19:20 Jugan wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:53 Judicator wrote:
On June 22 2013 01:47 Risen wrote:
What the dicks so many people.


Hope you enjoy playing Magic, better bring your meal cause God knows you'll never get to eat lunch or dinner or see the light of day.


This is so true, for those of you who have never played in a big tournament IRL. At Pro Tour: Berlin, there was no food at the venue. So some bloke set up a super ghetto grill outside on under 0C weather and was grilling patties and hotdogs, and selling them for 2-3 euro each. Needless to say, there was a crowd of people standing outside and eating out in the cold until someone would scream "PAIRINGS ARE UP" at which point everyone would scurry back inside, leaving many longing for sustenance.


I think the issue here is not so much the fact that there isnt food at the venue, but rather that this is a 4500 ppl GP with god knows how many rounds, let alone trying to leave and re-enter the building on time if a lunch break is planned lol


Yeah; in my experience lunch breaks are rarely planned. GPs and PTs almost certaintly go overtime, and they're trying to move things as fast as possible - meaning GLHF FINDING LUNCH/DINNER. I was just trying to highlight how desperate people were for anything to eat.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 17:12:00
June 22 2013 16:53 GMT
#7990
Too many dicks on the magic floor.

Edit: This place is hilarious. New slogan.

GPs... Where 5s become 10s!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
forgotten myth
Profile Joined November 2012
United States3 Posts
June 22 2013 17:54 GMT
#7991
Hey all,

have just started getting into magic online from the few MtG vids of Day9 awhile back, and I had a question for those more familiar with the interface:

I noticed modern masters 64 players drafts are being run pretty regularly, but the buy in is pretty steep at 9 tickets and you have to get in pretty far in advance; are there are any regular swiss/4-3-2-2 drafts that I'm missing or is that simply not being done on magic online? I'd love to try out a fairies or giants deck in limited, and doing drafts seems like a great way to build a collection for those starting out, but if there's only the 64 drafts I may have to reconsider.

WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 18:08:25
June 22 2013 18:07 GMT
#7992
On June 23 2013 02:54 forgotten myth wrote:
Hey all,

have just started getting into magic online from the few MtG vids of Day9 awhile back, and I had a question for those more familiar with the interface:

I noticed modern masters 64 players drafts are being run pretty regularly, but the buy in is pretty steep at 9 tickets and you have to get in pretty far in advance; are there are any regular swiss/4-3-2-2 drafts that I'm missing or is that simply not being done on magic online? I'd love to try out a fairies or giants deck in limited, and doing drafts seems like a great way to build a collection for those starting out, but if there's only the 64 drafts I may have to reconsider.


Been a very long while since I've touched the MTGO client, but there should be Swiss/4-3-2-2 drafts. I don't think they're listed under tournaments though...but once again, very long time since I've touched it.

EDIT: Also...pretty sure you can't draft Faeries or Giants in the current set pool.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
forgotten myth
Profile Joined November 2012
United States3 Posts
June 22 2013 18:26 GMT
#7993
On June 23 2013 03:07 WolfintheSheep wrote:

Been a very long while since I've touched the MTGO client, but there should be Swiss/4-3-2-2 drafts. I don't think they're listed under tournaments though...but once again, very long time since I've touched it.

EDIT: Also...pretty sure you can't draft Faeries or Giants in the current set pool.


Yeah, I've been seeing RTR block and M13 as the only ones with swiss/4-3-2-2


and white/red giants seemed like it could be pretty good in modern masters; there's nice uncommons in cloudgoat ranger and thundercloud shaman, you get to grab bound in silence from the rebel decks and get your own removal in crush underfoot, plus kithkin greatheart is a 3/2 first strike for 2 without too much work.

Fairies I'm less sure of, but it seems like there's enough of them to make a fast flying deck, maybe not.

Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 22 2013 18:30 GMT
#7994
CHeck under the release tournaments tab.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 18:31:48
June 22 2013 18:31 GMT
#7995
On June 23 2013 02:54 forgotten myth wrote:
Hey all,

have just started getting into magic online from the few MtG vids of Day9 awhile back, and I had a question for those more familiar with the interface:

I noticed modern masters 64 players drafts are being run pretty regularly, but the buy in is pretty steep at 9 tickets and you have to get in pretty far in advance; are there are any regular swiss/4-3-2-2 drafts that I'm missing or is that simply not being done on magic online? I'd love to try out a fairies or giants deck in limited, and doing drafts seems like a great way to build a collection for those starting out, but if there's only the 64 drafts I may have to reconsider.



64-man tournaments for MM is not worth it unless you make top 8. You're better off doing swiss or 4-3-2-2 if you're just casually drafting it. You can find them under: Play --> Tournaments --> Limited --> Release Queues.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
June 22 2013 18:39 GMT
#7996
I do swiss as I think it's the most friendly for newer players, however, isn't 8-4 better than 4-3-2-2?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 22 2013 18:41 GMT
#7997
On June 23 2013 03:39 micronesia wrote:
I do swiss as I think it's the most friendly for newer players, however, isn't 8-4 better than 4-3-2-2?


For payouts yes, but that only applies if you are good. Not recommended for new players.
Get it by your hands...
forgotten myth
Profile Joined November 2012
United States3 Posts
June 22 2013 18:44 GMT
#7998
You are awesome Jugan =)

And micro, I'm with you basically: I'm new so I'd take swiss given the chance, but 4-3-2-2 feels like a slightly riskier/slightly higher pay off without me having to do, y'know, well.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
June 22 2013 18:47 GMT
#7999
The thing is, if you lose round one, you are out. You get no prize and you don't get to practice two more matches. If you do swiss, you get to play all three matches, even if you lose one or two of them. Swiss, to me, seems much better for learning. Also, if you have a really off two matches, there's a decent chance you will get a bye in round three and still recover one pack, at least.

Once you get good, I would think you would want to switch from swiss to 8-4... I just don't see a need for 4-3-2-2 in the interim.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 18:51:25
June 22 2013 18:50 GMT
#8000
On June 23 2013 03:47 micronesia wrote:
The thing is, if you lose round one, you are out. You get no prize and you don't get to practice two more matches. If you do swiss, you get to play all three matches, even if you lose one or two of them. Swiss, to me, seems much better for learning. Also, if you have a really off two matches, there's a decent chance you will get a bye in round three and still recover one pack, at least.

Once you get good, I would think you would want to switch from swiss to 8-4... I just don't see a need for 4-3-2-2 in the interim.


Honestly, given the investment cost for modern masters ($7/pack) playing swiss is not that bad of a deal. Each win basically nets you $7 vs. other draft formats where packs are usually deflated. Limited is still akin to gambling; even the best players lose in the first round.

On June 23 2013 03:44 forgotten myth wrote:
You are awesome Jugan =)

And micro, I'm with you basically: I'm new so I'd take swiss given the chance, but 4-3-2-2 feels like a slightly riskier/slightly higher pay off without me having to do, y'know, well.


Thanks! You should check out my stream @www.twitch.tv/xJugan

I stream magic online :D
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
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