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dcnb
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria45 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 15:59:09
June 23 2013 15:57 GMT
#8021
ah allright so this isnt an expansion pack..its a new game.
so u cant unlock new cards and bring it into the 2014 version?
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
June 23 2013 16:10 GMT
#8022
On June 24 2013 00:57 dcnb wrote:
ah allright so this isnt an expansion pack..its a new game.
so u cant unlock new cards and bring it into the 2014 version?

Sadly, no. It's like those sports video games that they rerelease every year with a new title.
dcnb
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria45 Posts
June 23 2013 16:15 GMT
#8023
oh

ok thanks for ur help.

maybe ill come up with some better questions, when im into the game !
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 19:33:28
June 23 2013 18:53 GMT
#8024
OK, now the in depth discussion about my GP Houston pool.

This is the deck I built:
+ Show Spoiler +

1x Ruric Thar, The Unbowed
1x Batterhorn
1x Zuur-Ta Druid
1x Crocanura
1x Arrows of Justice
1x Mizzium Mortars
1x Madcap Skills
1x Grim Roustabout
1x Molten Primordial (foil)
1x Gyre Sage
1x Burning Tree Emissary
2x Kraul Warrior
1x Burst of Strength
1x Bloodfray Giant
1x Putrefy
1x Riot Piker
1x Deadbridge Goliath
1x Down//Dirty
1x Drudge Beetle
1x Deviant Glee
1x Hellraiser Goblin
1x Rubblebelt Maaka
1x Wasteland Viper
1x Gruul Cluestone
1x Rakdos Guildgate
2x Swamp
6x Mountain
7x Forest


The only thing I was unsure on was the black splash, I would have had to play maindeck Aerial Predation (which I sided it twice), Phytoburst, Minotaur Aggressor, Smelt Ward Gatekeepers (with no gates), and/or Primal Visitation in order to make it straight Gruul. I could have splashed White instead and had a Boros Cluestone and Guildgate on top of having Trostani's Summoner, Armored Wolf-Rider, and/or Viashino Firstblade. I felt like doing that slowed me down too much though. Adding another 7 drop to a pretty aggressive deck didn't seem to be the way to go, and I wasn't confident of being able to T3 a Firstblade which is the only time it's powerful.

Blue splash would have gotten me Give//Take, Frostburn Weird, and Izzet Staticaster and might have enabled me to play a gatekeeper with a Simic and Izzet Guildgate. That seemed weaker than the other two.

The other splashable cards I didn't splash were Syndicate Enforcer (extort wasn't great in my deck and he was kinda slow), Spawn of Rix-Maadi (I felt like I had enough dorks, though in retrospect I probably should have played him over Grim Roustabout), and Trestle Troll (not the point of my deck).

Despite the fact I played Gruul, the deepest color I had was blue, and I could have run an Esper deck whose power level seemed to be significantly lower:

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1x Lavinia, the Tenth
1x Whispering Madness
1x Wind Drake
1x Assassin's Strike
1x Syndicate Enforcer
1x Syndic of Tithes
1x Hussar Patrol
1x Deputy of Acquittals
1x Basilica Guards
1x Avenging Arrow
1x Opal Lake Gatekeepers
1x Leyline Phantom
1x Agoraphobia
1x Runner's Bane
1x Sage's Row Denizen
1x Inaction Injunction
1x Spell Rupture
1x Street Sweeper
1x Ascended Lawmage
1x Voidweilder
1x Stealer of Secrets
1x Cloudfin Raptor
1x Azorius Guildgate
1x Frostburn Weird
Lands


Like I said, much worse in almost every respect, but playable.

Match 1: I ran him over without any problems. I had T2 BTE into Kraul Warrior followed by T3 Drudge Beetle into Burst of Strength to eat his guy. He died.

Match 2: G1 he had no lands, G2 I had no lands, G3 he had all lands.

Match 3: Lost to double Woodlot Crawler while mana screwed game 1. Won Game 2 with a fast start, lost Game 3 to killing myself with Ruric-Thar. Although, to be fair, I was dead on board no matter what, since Putrefy was my only out and it would have killed me with Ruric-Thar in play as well. Without him in play, I was dead on board to his attackers a turn earlier.

Match 4: Mana screwed versus the mono-fliers deck G1 and G3, destroyed him when my deck worked.

Match 5: Mirror, ended up pulling out a narrow victory. Forgot the specifics.

Match 6: No lands 2 game in a row and out.

Typical variance in a limited event, might have played 18 lands and cut the Roustabout as the underperformer in the deck. I thought my deck was much better than average, and I had fun when playing.

Also, after I built the deck, I was thinking I may have wanted to swap a Swamp for a Mountain considering the triple red on Mizzium Mortars. It's possible I could have come back from being mana screwed if I had 1 more mountain a turn earlier to overload it and reset the game at a single digit life total.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24751 Posts
June 23 2013 19:19 GMT
#8025
I've noticed when people have Ruric Thar out and they are screwed, they seem to prefer getting killed by Ruric Thar than by combat damage from the opponent.

Isn't batterhorn expensive to main-deck?
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 23 2013 19:23 GMT
#8026
Batterhorn is alright, it went from strict sideboard card begrudgingly to semi-playable against some decks
Get it by your hands...
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 19:27:04
June 23 2013 19:26 GMT
#8027
On June 24 2013 04:19 micronesia wrote:
I've noticed when people have Ruric Thar out and they are screwed, they seem to prefer getting killed by Ruric Thar than by combat damage from the opponent.

Isn't batterhorn expensive to main-deck?


Well look at the other options I listed, what'd you cut it for?

In my mind, I needed something with more than 2 power to help me break through walls and other high-toughness creatures, and Batterhorn is easier to cast than Spawn of Rix-Maadi. Plus, he killed 2 Cluestones.


I should also probably add that with one exception, the "no land" games were mulligans to 5 or 6.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 21:12:33
June 23 2013 21:11 GMT
#8028
On June 24 2013 04:26 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 04:19 micronesia wrote:
I've noticed when people have Ruric Thar out and they are screwed, they seem to prefer getting killed by Ruric Thar than by combat damage from the opponent.

Isn't batterhorn expensive to main-deck?


Well look at the other options I listed, what'd you cut it for?

In my mind, I needed something with more than 2 power to help me break through walls and other high-toughness creatures, and Batterhorn is easier to cast than Spawn of Rix-Maadi. Plus, he killed 2 Cluestones.


I should also probably add that with one exception, the "no land" games were mulligans to 5 or 6.


I'd say you made the best build with what you got, assuming you didn't leave out any relevant cards.

Edit: Except Frostburn Weird is infinitely better than Grim Roustabout on the splash.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 03:03:20
June 25 2013 03:02 GMT
#8029
Man I just lost to a Storm/Arcane Deck in MMA finals. It's cool that it got there against my w.e i felt like deck

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Surprising reliable to go off with worm and life from the loam or academy ruins + arcbound wanderer/ravenger + another artifact, too bad the storm deck took the gifts ungiven in the draft. Plus academy ruins prevents me from decking myself unless they force card draw on me. Weird sorta dredge deck i actually sided in bridge from below against the storm deck just because it didn't run many creatures.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
June 25 2013 12:11 GMT
#8030
New Garruk is overcosted, but amazingly powerful. Seems great in casual/EDH. In Standard...eh, it depends on how viable a ramp strategy is, and given there' no Farseek/Cultivate/Rampant Growth in M14 yet, I'm not sure.

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Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
June 25 2013 12:32 GMT
#8031
So how long did it take you guys to get your activation e-mails after purchase? I used my debit card almost 30 hours ago and have had no response (have checked the spam folder as well). Just wondering how soon I should contact customer support.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
June 25 2013 12:38 GMT
#8032
What's that dark Garruk card? Is it a special version?

Also his ultimate is pretty sick. Keep a bunch of one drops on hand just to troll haha.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
June 25 2013 12:43 GMT
#8033
I haven't played MMA sealed much, but am I the only one who thinks it's a fucking terrible format?
There are far too many cards which rely on synergy to be good and it's natural that it's extremely rare to get a critical mass of any tribal cards, for example, to make an actual deck. So sometimes it's hard to even get enough playables in 2 colors because so many cards are wasted and it feels like the whole format is completely bomb dependant.

None of that applies to MMA draft, of course, which is an amazing format.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
June 25 2013 13:13 GMT
#8034
new garruk is a bit weak. Costing 6 mana and needing lots of creatures in your deck doesn't really synergize, a deck able to cast him typically needs lots of lands and some spells to stay alive to cast it making his +1 weaker. Still some midrange decks with lots of manadorks could cast him while still having the high creature count, he is still not that great then imo. The -3 ability is just really quite weak with the green creatures there are and leaves him too vulnerable, not to mention you probably won't even have a worthy creature for the ability the turn you drop him which is the only way to defend itself.

Seems like something like deadbridge chant, a card you bring in for mirror midrange matchups where you have enough time to get him going. Otherwise he is just way too slow and actually fairly vulnerable.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 25 2013 13:30 GMT
#8035
I bought Duel of the Planeswalkers 2014. Sealed deck mode looking good so far
Great cheap way to play casual Magic online with your buddies.

I actually bought the Android version as well, to play in the train while going to work, it's pretty smooth on my Nexus 7.
Am0n3r
Profile Joined April 2010
United States254 Posts
June 25 2013 13:31 GMT
#8036
I am not quite sure if this topic been covered yet or not, but why is there no cross-platform for new Magic games? If they were to have an account that you purchase vs a copy of the game, I would instantly buy it. But because I feel that I would have to purchase 3 different copies, I feel a bit skeptical about getting into a series, but there is definitely a potential for it.
Get comfortable being uncomfortable
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 13:37:06
June 25 2013 13:36 GMT
#8037
On June 25 2013 22:31 Am0n3r wrote:
I am not quite sure if this topic been covered yet or not, but why is there no cross-platform for new Magic games? If they were to have an account that you purchase vs a copy of the game, I would instantly buy it. But because I feel that I would have to purchase 3 different copies, I feel a bit skeptical about getting into a series, but there is definitely a potential for it.

If you're talking about Dotp, you're either buying a Google Play account, an iTunes account or a Steam account, and you can play with your account from whatever device that can run the platform. It sucks a bit that you can't, say, play with the same account on your iPad and your PC, but that would require from the devs to set up custom account servers instead using the sync features from Play, iTunes or Steam, which they probably couldn't afford with their budget/time.

Now if you're talking about other Magic games, I'm sorry if I was off topic :D
Am0n3r
Profile Joined April 2010
United States254 Posts
June 25 2013 13:48 GMT
#8038
On June 25 2013 22:36 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:31 Am0n3r wrote:
I am not quite sure if this topic been covered yet or not, but why is there no cross-platform for new Magic games? If they were to have an account that you purchase vs a copy of the game, I would instantly buy it. But because I feel that I would have to purchase 3 different copies, I feel a bit skeptical about getting into a series, but there is definitely a potential for it.

If you're talking about Dotp, you're either buying a Google Play account, an iTunes account or a Steam account, and you can play with your account from whatever device that can run the platform. It sucks a bit that you can't, say, play with the same account on your iPad and your PC, but that would require from the devs to set up custom account servers instead using the sync features from Play, iTunes or Steam, which they probably couldn't afford with their budget/time.

Now if you're talking about other Magic games, I'm sorry if I was off topic :D

No, you are quite spot on :D I just feel like they should still be able to tie the accounts together, I wouldn't mind purchasing for example Google Play account and be able to tie it to my "Magic" account, and then purchase discounted version on iTunes and Steam and tie them all up. One can only dream... :D
Get comfortable being uncomfortable
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 25 2013 14:31 GMT
#8039
That would require all of them to play nice. Which is to say never, its certainly not a lack of capabilities.
Get it by your hands...
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24751 Posts
June 26 2013 03:37 GMT
#8040
I just did a casual event (6 people) at a nearby gaming/restaurant place. I drafted a nice golgari deck and won my first two matches pretty convincingly. Then in the third and final round I got mana screwed both games and got rolled by play that I would have crushed otherwise XD

2 color, 17/40 land, and both an axebane guardian and a gatecreeper vine, so I don't think I could have really prevented it.
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