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On September 05 2012 14:59 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 14:52 Ianuus wrote:On September 05 2012 06:09 crms wrote:
so i've been doing mostly spvp and casually leveling with my girlfriend. I really like the game at the pace and setting im playing now. I generally hardcore every game so it's been nice to have GW2 to 'take it easy' with. Though after reading so many reviews of the dungeons and the way the game plays with no 'holy trinity' it doesn't seem like I have much to look forward. I've yet to hear any positivity towards doing the dungeons and the mechanics required to complete them. It seems mostly just everyone must spec to toughness/vit and get full support abilities. Dungeons don't seem so good with the playstyle required + the lack of automated group making. Anyone have some counter points to everything I've been reading? Very doable, even with PuGs, just as long as you are prepared to wipe a few times first. Just did that sylvari dungeon with 2 friends + 2 randoms, and it did require actual strategy apart from just run in and DPS boss. What seemed impossible when we wiped the first time we were able to overcome by actually taking some time to work out wtf the boss did and how to deal with it. Not at all hard if you know what you're doing. It's far harder than WoW. Not sure if it's because the game is so new and, because they changed the holy trinity and everyone is getting used to the new setups, or because the bosses themselves are too dangerous and they don't animate their attacks enough to tell you how and what to dodge. Tbh I just think abilities NPCs do just arn't articulated well enough in the game and theres too many particle effects cluttering your screen and before you know it you're downed on the ground needing to be revived without having any clue why it happened in the first place. Anyway it's very do-able all the same everything in the game atm.
WoW dungeons were goddamn hard during vanilla as well. I remember doing Ragefire Chasm and Deadmines as level 14-15, and damn, so many wipes. Even getting into DM through the village was considered an accomplishment lol.
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On September 05 2012 10:21 ilbh wrote:
what's the point of leveling if you can PvP as 80 whenever you want? just for fun?
Speaking for myself I have no idea what sPvP is. It's a function people keep talking about bit doesn't seem to exist in the game I'm playing. When I play pvp it's some kind of boring zergfest where you have to be level 80 for real to have a chance.
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Have you played it a full team yet?
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On September 05 2012 20:21 Ramanujan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 10:21 ilbh wrote:
what's the point of leveling if you can PvP as 80 whenever you want? just for fun? Speaking for myself I have no idea what sPvP is. It's a function people keep talking about bit doesn't seem to exist in the game I'm playing. When I play pvp it's some kind of boring zergfest where you have to be level 80 for real to have a chance.
sPVP is competitive PvP, it's like arena for wow I guess, except you can only change ur spec/trait etc. When you join it your stats are bumped to 80.
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On September 05 2012 20:25 CryMeAReaper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 20:21 Ramanujan wrote:On September 05 2012 10:21 ilbh wrote:
what's the point of leveling if you can PvP as 80 whenever you want? just for fun? Speaking for myself I have no idea what sPvP is. It's a function people keep talking about bit doesn't seem to exist in the game I'm playing. When I play pvp it's some kind of boring zergfest where you have to be level 80 for real to have a chance. sPVP is competitive PvP, it's like arena for wow I guess, except you can only change ur spec/trait etc. When you join it your stats are bumped to 80.
How do I join it? Does it give anything?
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You open your character window, go on the last tab and press enter Heart of the Mists
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So many opposing reviews, I can't decide for the life of me if I should purchase the game or not. It's not cheap. I played WoW averaging around 5 hours for over 5 years, but quit due to game evolving into a mega easy game with dumbed down PvP and PvM. Any feedbacks for me?
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On September 05 2012 21:19 Derrida wrote:
So many opposing reviews, I can't decide for the life of me if I should purchase the game or not. It's not cheap. I played WoW averaging around 5 hours for over 5 years, but quit due to game evolving into a mega easy game with dumbed down PvP and PvM. Any feedbacks for me?
The pvp has the most potential, the arena style pvp I mean. But there is little support for it right now. You can play in 3 round tournaments but there is no match making rating or anything, so you can get matched with people that are solo queuing or play against partial teams queuing up. There are also 8v8 join anytime servers, but they are just for messing around.
They have said before that they are going to put in:
dueling
private servers
spectator mode
I can't recall anotehr game that lets you jump right into pvp with all gear, max level and all abilities, so that would be the primary selling point.
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Team Legacy bail on NS? We get a competitive wvwvw match up, it's pretty even across the board the at first. Then we start losing. TL blames dolyak farmers and completely ditches the community they were supposedly working to establish? Is that whats going on right now?
EDIT: If it's just a rumor I'm sorry for perpetuating it
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On September 05 2012 21:26 Xahhk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 21:19 Derrida wrote:
So many opposing reviews, I can't decide for the life of me if I should purchase the game or not. It's not cheap. I played WoW averaging around 5 hours for over 5 years, but quit due to game evolving into a mega easy game with dumbed down PvP and PvM. Any feedbacks for me? The pvp has the most potential, the arena style pvp I mean. But there is little support for it right now. You can play in 3 round tournaments but there is no match making rating or anything, so you can get matched with people that are solo queuing or play against partial teams queuing up. There are also 8v8 join anytime servers, but they are just for messing around. They have said before that they are going to put in: dueling private servers spectator mode I can't recall anotehr game that lets you jump right into pvp with all gear, max level and all abilities, so that would be the primary selling point.
Hmm, interesting choice, how would I know how to use skills at level 5 if I just jump in PvP as level 80? I really liked the initial PvP leveling of Warhammer in which you gained new spells-skills as you pvp'd. Let me watch some more videos.
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Naturally you immediately won't know what's up. No one entered mists first time and knew exactly what to do. Especially when every class has several weapon sets with different abilities, but the choice to do that is great. You don't have to grind to 80 to do meaningful pvp.
It's great that for once you can take the pve content at your own pace. There's very little reason to rush it and you get rewarded by doing pretty much anything. Yesterday I got from 62 to 67 by doing crafting, gathering resources to do it and a few pieces of my personal quest.
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Hm, makes sense. I'm already downloading the game, but didn't buy yet. Watching a few more videos until I decide 
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On September 05 2012 21:32 Derrida wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 21:26 Xahhk wrote:On September 05 2012 21:19 Derrida wrote:
So many opposing reviews, I can't decide for the life of me if I should purchase the game or not. It's not cheap. I played WoW averaging around 5 hours for over 5 years, but quit due to game evolving into a mega easy game with dumbed down PvP and PvM. Any feedbacks for me? The pvp has the most potential, the arena style pvp I mean. But there is little support for it right now. You can play in 3 round tournaments but there is no match making rating or anything, so you can get matched with people that are solo queuing or play against partial teams queuing up. There are also 8v8 join anytime servers, but they are just for messing around. They have said before that they are going to put in: dueling private servers spectator mode I can't recall anotehr game that lets you jump right into pvp with all gear, max level and all abilities, so that would be the primary selling point. Hmm, interesting choice, how would I know how to use skills at level 5 if I just jump in PvP as level 80? I really liked the initial PvP leveling of Warhammer in which you gained new spells-skills as you pvp'd. Let me watch some more videos.
There is a learning curve. Basically you have to customize:
- What traits to add (which gives you bonus stats and passive/triggered abilities)
- What runes to slot in your armor and weapon (bonus stats)
- Weapon sets which determine your active skills
- 3 utility and 1 elite skills
There are lots of skills to choose from and experiment with, but its not hard to learn whats good and whats not after a couple of hours. Generally I try to build my character around a certain concept (e.g. Necromancer with lots of minions or Shield Warrior with insane survivability) and select traits/skills to complement that.
I have never played another MMORPG before so no basis for comparison here but I've spent dozens of hours in organized PvP with my friends and its been immensely fun. I only have 2 main PvE characters out of 5 character slots so I can constantly switch my PvP classes.
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On September 05 2012 22:43 Mephy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 21:32 Derrida wrote:On September 05 2012 21:26 Xahhk wrote:On September 05 2012 21:19 Derrida wrote:
So many opposing reviews, I can't decide for the life of me if I should purchase the game or not. It's not cheap. I played WoW averaging around 5 hours for over 5 years, but quit due to game evolving into a mega easy game with dumbed down PvP and PvM. Any feedbacks for me? The pvp has the most potential, the arena style pvp I mean. But there is little support for it right now. You can play in 3 round tournaments but there is no match making rating or anything, so you can get matched with people that are solo queuing or play against partial teams queuing up. There are also 8v8 join anytime servers, but they are just for messing around. They have said before that they are going to put in: dueling private servers spectator mode I can't recall anotehr game that lets you jump right into pvp with all gear, max level and all abilities, so that would be the primary selling point. Hmm, interesting choice, how would I know how to use skills at level 5 if I just jump in PvP as level 80? I really liked the initial PvP leveling of Warhammer in which you gained new spells-skills as you pvp'd. Let me watch some more videos. There is a learning curve. Basically you have to customize: - What traits to add (which gives you bonus stats and passive/triggered abilities) - What runes to slot in your armor and weapon (bonus stats) - Weapon sets which determine your active skills - 3 utility and 1 elite skills There are lots of skills to choose from and experiment with, but its not hard to learn whats good and whats not after a couple of hours. Generally I try to build my character around a certain concept (e.g. Necromancer with lots of minions or Shield Warrior with insane survivability) and select traits/skills to complement that. I have never played another MMORPG before so no basis for comparison here but I've spent dozens of hours in organized PvP with my friends and its been immensely fun. I only have 2 main PvE characters out of 5 character slots so I can constantly switch my PvP classes.
Hey, thanks for the feedback. Could you elaborate on what you mean by that please?
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On September 05 2012 21:28 Sozai wrote:
Team Legacy bail on NS? We get a competitive wvwvw match up, it's pretty even across the board the at first. Then we start losing. TL blames dolyak farmers and completely ditches the community they were supposedly working to establish? Is that whats going on right now?
EDIT: If it's just a rumor I'm sorry for perpetuating it
I think they left the server they where on and went to Eredon or something like that. Yea some servers blame dolyak farmers if they lose a matchup. It seems to be the servers with the biggest WvW guilds like NS, BG, SI from what I read everytime they lose its the Que issue and Dolyak farmers
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On September 05 2012 22:50 Derrida wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 22:43 Mephy wrote:On September 05 2012 21:32 Derrida wrote:On September 05 2012 21:26 Xahhk wrote:On September 05 2012 21:19 Derrida wrote:
So many opposing reviews, I can't decide for the life of me if I should purchase the game or not. It's not cheap. I played WoW averaging around 5 hours for over 5 years, but quit due to game evolving into a mega easy game with dumbed down PvP and PvM. Any feedbacks for me? The pvp has the most potential, the arena style pvp I mean. But there is little support for it right now. You can play in 3 round tournaments but there is no match making rating or anything, so you can get matched with people that are solo queuing or play against partial teams queuing up. There are also 8v8 join anytime servers, but they are just for messing around. They have said before that they are going to put in: dueling private servers spectator mode I can't recall anotehr game that lets you jump right into pvp with all gear, max level and all abilities, so that would be the primary selling point. Hmm, interesting choice, how would I know how to use skills at level 5 if I just jump in PvP as level 80? I really liked the initial PvP leveling of Warhammer in which you gained new spells-skills as you pvp'd. Let me watch some more videos. There is a learning curve. Basically you have to customize: - What traits to add (which gives you bonus stats and passive/triggered abilities) - What runes to slot in your armor and weapon (bonus stats) - Weapon sets which determine your active skills - 3 utility and 1 elite skills There are lots of skills to choose from and experiment with, but its not hard to learn whats good and whats not after a couple of hours. Generally I try to build my character around a certain concept (e.g. Necromancer with lots of minions or Shield Warrior with insane survivability) and select traits/skills to complement that. I have never played another MMORPG before so no basis for comparison here but I've spent dozens of hours in organized PvP with my friends and its been immensely fun. I only have 2 main PvE characters out of 5 character slots so I can constantly switch my PvP classes. Hey, thanks for the feedback. Could you elaborate on what you mean by that please?
When you play PvP, your character automatically gets buffed to max level 80 with everything unlocked, so although you are only given 5 character slots, you can actually play all 8 professions in PvP.
For example, today I wanted to try out Mesmer in PvP, so I simply deleted one of my PvP characters, created a Mesmer, finished the 10 minute introduction and proceeded to play PvP. Its pretty neat, and I don't have to grind for levels or good equipment in order to be competitive.
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I have one more question :
How hard is it to get the best gear? I heard somewhere it is not as easy as in gw1. You have to do some grinding (some says it's about 100hours).
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In what context? For organized pvp, all gear given free has same stats, only thing you can get is more flashy looks. If pve, then no idea, not there yet.
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On September 05 2012 21:19 Derrida wrote:
So many opposing reviews, I can't decide for the life of me if I should purchase the game or not. It's not cheap. I played WoW averaging around 5 hours for over 5 years, but quit due to game evolving into a mega easy game with dumbed down PvP and PvM. Any feedbacks for me?
I also guess there's quite a bunch of people who're happy with the game and don't have the urge to say anything in this thread. I'd say there are more people who are happy and don't say anything than those that are unhappy and complain here.
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On September 05 2012 23:08 Mephy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 22:50 Derrida wrote:On September 05 2012 22:43 Mephy wrote:On September 05 2012 21:32 Derrida wrote:On September 05 2012 21:26 Xahhk wrote:On September 05 2012 21:19 Derrida wrote:
So many opposing reviews, I can't decide for the life of me if I should purchase the game or not. It's not cheap. I played WoW averaging around 5 hours for over 5 years, but quit due to game evolving into a mega easy game with dumbed down PvP and PvM. Any feedbacks for me? The pvp has the most potential, the arena style pvp I mean. But there is little support for it right now. You can play in 3 round tournaments but there is no match making rating or anything, so you can get matched with people that are solo queuing or play against partial teams queuing up. There are also 8v8 join anytime servers, but they are just for messing around. They have said before that they are going to put in: dueling private servers spectator mode I can't recall anotehr game that lets you jump right into pvp with all gear, max level and all abilities, so that would be the primary selling point. Hmm, interesting choice, how would I know how to use skills at level 5 if I just jump in PvP as level 80? I really liked the initial PvP leveling of Warhammer in which you gained new spells-skills as you pvp'd. Let me watch some more videos. There is a learning curve. Basically you have to customize: - What traits to add (which gives you bonus stats and passive/triggered abilities) - What runes to slot in your armor and weapon (bonus stats) - Weapon sets which determine your active skills - 3 utility and 1 elite skills There are lots of skills to choose from and experiment with, but its not hard to learn whats good and whats not after a couple of hours. Generally I try to build my character around a certain concept (e.g. Necromancer with lots of minions or Shield Warrior with insane survivability) and select traits/skills to complement that. I have never played another MMORPG before so no basis for comparison here but I've spent dozens of hours in organized PvP with my friends and its been immensely fun. I only have 2 main PvE characters out of 5 character slots so I can constantly switch my PvP classes. Hey, thanks for the feedback. Could you elaborate on what you mean by that please? When you play PvP, your character automatically gets buffed to max level 80 with everything unlocked, so although you are only given 5 character slots, you can actually play all 8 professions in PvP. For example, today I wanted to try out Mesmer in PvP, so I simply deleted one of my PvP characters, created a Mesmer, finished the 10 minute introduction and proceeded to play PvP. Its pretty neat, and I don't have to grind for levels or good equipment in order to be competitive.
If you play a bit of PvE, character slots are not that expensive.
They're ~3 gold afair, +/- depending on gem economy.
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