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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
September 08 2015 18:15 GMT
#19841
You get most crafting mats from salvaging. If you run grifts you get mostly shards, you buy items from kadala and salvage them. With the cube you can switch the materials so you shouldnt end up with thousands of veils anymore.
Last season, the ingeom dash monk build was doing t6 in under 2 minutes consistently. Now its even more insane with uliana + madstone + ingeom. And barbs can do it too now.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 18:36:18
September 08 2015 18:34 GMT
#19842
I'm at that awkward point with my crusader that I'm only going to really progress with an ancient weapon / massive amounts of paragon. kind of sad. maybe I'll make a new character.

*edit* there is plenty to min / max still but nothing is going to get me into the solo 55+ range like an ancient weapon. I've dropped about 7 Johanna's this season but none have been ancient unfortunately.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
September 08 2015 18:57 GMT
#19843
On September 09 2015 03:34 crms wrote:
I'm at that awkward point with my crusader that I'm only going to really progress with an ancient weapon / massive amounts of paragon. kind of sad. maybe I'll make a new character.

*edit* there is plenty to min / max still but nothing is going to get me into the solo 55+ range like an ancient weapon. I've dropped about 7 Johanna's this season but none have been ancient unfortunately.


Take one of them that dropped, and roll it until it is legendary. The chance is pretty high from the cube, wont take that long to get one. I've made a couple ancient weapons this season so far by doing it.
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
September 08 2015 19:08 GMT
#19844
On September 09 2015 03:57 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 03:34 crms wrote:
I'm at that awkward point with my crusader that I'm only going to really progress with an ancient weapon / massive amounts of paragon. kind of sad. maybe I'll make a new character.

*edit* there is plenty to min / max still but nothing is going to get me into the solo 55+ range like an ancient weapon. I've dropped about 7 Johanna's this season but none have been ancient unfortunately.


Take one of them that dropped, and roll it until it is legendary. The chance is pretty high from the cube, wont take that long to get one. I've made a couple ancient weapons this season so far by doing it.

That require so many forgotten souls though. Its better 95% of the time to just roll rares to legendary and hope you get it that way since white/blue/yellow mats + DBs are far easier to just casually farm than act mats are.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 19:12:32
September 08 2015 19:10 GMT
#19845
On September 09 2015 03:57 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 03:34 crms wrote:
I'm at that awkward point with my crusader that I'm only going to really progress with an ancient weapon / massive amounts of paragon. kind of sad. maybe I'll make a new character.

*edit* there is plenty to min / max still but nothing is going to get me into the solo 55+ range like an ancient weapon. I've dropped about 7 Johanna's this season but none have been ancient unfortunately.


Take one of them that dropped, and roll it until it is legendary. The chance is pretty high from the cube, wont take that long to get one. I've made a couple ancient weapons this season so far by doing it.

you're right, that's probably the fastest way to farm a specific ancient. I always forget about all the other things the cube can do. :D

the cube is really an awesome feature for build creating. I'm doing the generic hammerdin build with furnace, hexing pants, obisdian ring of the zodiac cubed. It's insane how powerful the cube makes your character in short time.

I need a math lord to figure out if using an akanesh/skycutter (25% holy) with johannas cubed, would outperform using a Johannas with a Furnace cubed. I wonder if the 25% holy dmg makes up for 50% elite dmg in overall efficiency. I supposed it would depend on how much elite/holy you already have.
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
September 08 2015 20:28 GMT
#19846
Just waiting on my ancient Flying Dragon...and an In-Geom so I can do T8 cleanup...I've ROLLED SO MANY DAIBOS! And burned through all my Forgotten Souls trying to get an ancient upgrade...

I really want to have the slot open for a furnace or In-Geom when I'm doing clears...there's really no point having something else as my weapon because with tthe Cube a FD + Furnace is the way to go...

My friend found 4 In-Geom when he was farming yesterday and I wasn't there, LOL.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 21:41:36
September 08 2015 21:36 GMT
#19847
Dunno about you guys but I'm playing non-season cause I'm casual. I haven't played since late last year. So far, I've been mostly running T7 solo bounties so I can cube just about every legendary power I can find. However, my stash space is filling up just as fast as I'm cubing old legendaries. I'm collecting all the sets because I played a lot of them yet. And other legendaries that work well with the sets. And multiple copies of certain legendaries/sets because different builds require different stats.

I'm done cubing around 130-140 legendaries so far so my stash is filling up again.

I'm using Danetta/Natalya to farm bounties. I have to be careful to not vault too much in random directions or I get motion sick. hahahahaha
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 09 2015 01:16 GMT
#19848
A friend of mine is trying to get RoS (he has diablo 3).
https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/diablo-iii-reaper-of-souls#
Does this $39.99 price include the price of the original game, or is the expansion by itself that expensive?
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 09 2015 01:18 GMT
#19849
On September 09 2015 10:16 The_Templar wrote:
A friend of mine is trying to get RoS (he has diablo 3).
https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/diablo-iii-reaper-of-souls#
Does this $39.99 price include the price of the original game, or is the expansion by itself that expensive?

Nope...it is that expensive by itself.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 01:45:16
September 09 2015 01:44 GMT
#19850
Blizzard rarely lower the price of their game if a new one for the franchise doesn't come out. :/


I just completed Champion in the saison, not sure I want to go for Destroyer. Earning that conquest is gonna be hard unless I go for the 6 lvl 50 gems which is easy but a shit ton of rift farming.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 09 2015 01:56 GMT
#19851
got my 6 piece ulianas and flow of eternity today
this is a really fun set
GreenScreen
Profile Joined June 2015
United States68 Posts
September 09 2015 02:18 GMT
#19852
On September 09 2015 06:36 andrewlt wrote:
Dunno about you guys but I'm playing non-season cause I'm casual. I haven't played since late last year. So far, I've been mostly running T7 solo bounties so I can cube just about every legendary power I can find. However, my stash space is filling up just as fast as I'm cubing old legendaries. I'm collecting all the sets because I played a lot of them yet. And other legendaries that work well with the sets. And multiple copies of certain legendaries/sets because different builds require different stats.

I'm done cubing around 130-140 legendaries so far so my stash is filling up again.

I'm using Danetta/Natalya to farm bounties. I have to be careful to not vault too much in random directions or I get motion sick. hahahahaha


Yup, people are starting to realize that cubing doesn't solve the stash space issue. You'll usually want to keep an ancient copy of whatever you've cubed in case you need to wear it and put something else in the cube. For my witch doctor, I'm keeping ancient voodoo masks that I've already cubed in case I want to wear the Belt of Transcendence or Tasker and Theo.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 05:26:22
September 09 2015 05:10 GMT
#19853
why are all the monks using mantra of salvation: agility over one of the allres or armor runes?
also how are they managing without unity?
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 05:29:58
September 09 2015 05:26 GMT
#19854
Dodge chance. MoS:A plus the cold rune for dashing strike gives you 75% dodge rating which is huge when you consider dodge is complete damage avoidance over just reduction. With my monks current shitty-ish gear when i have MoS, Desert Shroud Ephiany and Dashing Strike Dodge up my sheet toughness is over 550 million. You dont need unity because there is very little time where you are actually vulnerable to damage. There's a 3-3.5 second window between SSS CDs once you have everything.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
September 09 2015 05:27 GMT
#19855
On September 09 2015 10:44 Noocta wrote:
Blizzard rarely lower the price of their game if a new one for the franchise doesn't come out. :/


I just completed Champion in the saison, not sure I want to go for Destroyer. Earning that conquest is gonna be hard unless I go for the 6 lvl 50 gems which is easy but a shit ton of rift farming.


I did the boss rush one, wasnt that hard to do.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 09 2015 05:38 GMT
#19856
On September 09 2015 14:26 Kyhron wrote:
Dodge chance. MoS:A plus the cold rune for dashing strike gives you 75% dodge rating which is huge when you consider dodge is complete damage avoidance over just reduction. With my monks current shitty-ish gear when i have MoS, Desert Shroud Ephiany and Dashing Strike Dodge up my sheet toughness is over 550 million. You dont need unity because there is very little time where you are actually vulnerable to damage. There's a 3-3.5 second window between SSS CDs once you have everything.

thanks! one more question, is broken promises or convention of elements better?
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
September 09 2015 05:44 GMT
#19857
BP imo. Forging all CHC off your gear puts you at a point where BP is up pretty much every single time you SSS
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 09 2015 07:29 GMT
#19858
I would say CoE is better, with BP you have to fish for procs which impacts your survivability negatively, or you use SSS on cd and end up doing less damage. CoE you use it on cd and 4 sec of every 20s you do crazy damage. Even with my badly geared monk I bursted a rift boss for 70 billion when CoE hit cold phase.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
September 09 2015 07:35 GMT
#19859
On September 09 2015 16:29 daemir wrote:
I would say CoE is better, with BP you have to fish for procs which impacts your survivability negatively, or you use SSS on cd and end up doing less damage. CoE you use it on cd and 4 sec of every 20s you do crazy damage. Even with my badly geared monk I bursted a rift boss for 70 billion when CoE hit cold phase.


I would also say that unless you have math that clearly shows BP is better, it isn't worth the hassle. You need a full set of gear for BP, and another set of gear for not using it, and that also limits your options (can't just swap out the cubed ring for a unity or something).

BP build is definitely interesting though, do you know what it counts as an attack?
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
September 09 2015 12:34 GMT
#19860
For Uliana monks BP is better. There is no fishing for procs with the build. BP is up every single SSS CD unless you're either A) not reforging CHC off your gear like you should or B) getting unlucky to the extreme with way of the hundred fists during SSS downtime with a 5% crit chance. BP also works because each damaging tick of way of a hundred fists counts as an attack so BP is up more than its down.

CoE is also kinda shitty because it'll only ever boost half your damage at any point. SSS is run with the physical CDR rune and Exploding Palm is the obvious cold rune so the benefits of CoE are minimalized quite a bit.

When I ran CoE prior to getting BP I struggled to clear 40 in time. With BP I've cleared 49 with a decent amount of time left and my gear isn't even that good. My weapons are 2.2 and 2.1 k dps with no sockets. I think I only have about 170% CHD and the difference is obvious let alone what it would be for someone with actual good gear. I believe Quin69 touched more on the math difference between CoE and BP in his prepatch Ulianas guide
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