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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-03 11:38:19
September 03 2015 11:37 GMT
#19701
Grifts drop far more Blood Shards and upgrade gems tho, moreover, since you don't need to loot stuff you can keep moving which makes a difference over a large amount of rifts/Grifts.
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
September 03 2015 12:10 GMT
#19702
In season 4 you have to play them both. Rifts for grift keys, gold and yellows and Grifts for legendary gems+blood shards. And if you want to use the cube, you need to do bounties too.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
September 03 2015 12:17 GMT
#19703
I enjoy Grifts faaaar more. Just focus on killing stuff without the intense looting which hurts the flow of things.
I have a autohotkey script, that when I press F1, it toggles spam of left mouse button. I dont give a flying ass that its not "legal", and I even recommend it to my friend who struggled with looting as well and quited the game cause of it.

I heard its better to get your ancient in upgrading rare (hope of cain), then the reforge recipe that demands a frigging 50 soul shards. Anyone have experience in this?

Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22576 Posts
September 03 2015 12:22 GMT
#19704
On September 03 2015 21:17 crappen wrote:
I enjoy Grifts faaaar more. Just focus on killing stuff without the intense looting which hurts the flow of things.
I have a autohotkey script, that when I press F1, it toggles spam of left mouse button. I dont give a flying ass that its not "legal", and I even recommend it to my friend who struggled with looting as well and quited the game cause of it.

I heard its better to get your ancient in upgrading rare (hope of cain), then the reforge recipe that demands a frigging 50 soul shards. Anyone have experience in this?

I believe the Ancient chance is the same for both method's and upgrading is a lot cheaper then the other option.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
September 03 2015 13:16 GMT
#19705
diablo 3 on consoles its super hacked

im paragon lvl 10.000 lmao
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 03 2015 13:33 GMT
#19706
On September 03 2015 22:16 Faruko wrote:
diablo 3 on consoles its super hacked

im paragon lvl 10.000 lmao

So is my roommate -_-
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
September 03 2015 13:56 GMT
#19707
Finally finished my UE set last night, instantly demolish T6 rifts now
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rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
September 03 2015 14:01 GMT
#19708
Anyone playing HardCore?
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-03 14:02:08
September 03 2015 14:01 GMT
#19709
Yeah I'm in the TL clan, Jeremy is my online name
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-03 15:53:41
September 03 2015 15:48 GMT
#19710
On September 03 2015 18:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 16:21 Kyhron wrote:
If youre playing to just get geared you're missing out on 95% of the reason to play imo. Half the fun of diablo is to be constantly be searching for that piece of gear thats finally an upgrade and to see how well you can push through rifts.

In other news Hamelin is the best boss in the world as an Uliana's monk. Once you have 6 set plus Gungdo Gear he literally kills himself on his constantly spawning rats.

yeah i understand that gear searching is the main reason people keep playing. im just wondering whether i personally would get bored of the game once i finish the campaign again (since i havent played the expansion yet) and i get decent enough gear to get a good feel for the character im playing.
i guess i could keep repeating so that i get to play each character once or whatever, but my goal would just be to test each character then, rather than commit and grind for gears

The campaign is a very minor part of the experience now, especially if you've already played it. The expansion introduced adventure mode which is where nearly 100% of your time will be spent once you finish the campaign once.

If you think you're going to play it just for the campaign and call it a day by finishing the story then it's probably not worth it. That would take a lot less than 1-2 weeks too. The 1-2 weeks was an estimate at how long it will take to get a character "up to speed" (relatively) so you can start REALLY playing on the highest difficulties, grouping for various activities, progressing on leaderboards and hitting seasonal goals, etc. It depends on where you draw the line. 2 weeks to get decent gear and call it quits is one thing, but most here will probably tell you that's 1-2 weeks to truly "start" the endgame, that's where the real fun begins.

For a game with no subscription cost the amount of time I dump into D3 is pretty ridiculous
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
September 03 2015 15:59 GMT
#19711
You don't even need 1-2 weeks now, if you know what you are doing, 7-8 hours to level 70, then 10 hours tops you are in at least Torment 6 doing the real stuff.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-03 17:25:07
September 03 2015 16:24 GMT
#19712
Internets I need help.

edit; i found all the answers to my questions. happy season 4 everyone!

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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 03 2015 17:31 GMT
#19713
On September 04 2015 00:59 digmouse wrote:
You don't even need 1-2 weeks now, if you know what you are doing, 7-8 hours to level 70, then 10 hours tops you are in at least Torment 6 doing the real stuff.

And casually playing at a couple of hours a day, tops, you are looking at a week+ lol

No one meant 1 week in-game time @_@
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 03 2015 17:39 GMT
#19714
On September 04 2015 00:59 digmouse wrote:
You don't even need 1-2 weeks now, if you know what you are doing, 7-8 hours to level 70, then 10 hours tops you are in at least Torment 6 doing the real stuff.

Which is fucking stupid tbh.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
September 03 2015 17:48 GMT
#19715
On September 04 2015 00:59 digmouse wrote:
You don't even need 1-2 weeks now, if you know what you are doing, 7-8 hours to level 70, then 10 hours tops you are in at least Torment 6 doing the real stuff.

never worked with my barb -.- I can find all set items within 10 hours as you said but barb related legendaries are still very close to impossible for me. never seen bul kathos weapons or vile ward or lamentation or bliss etc.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
September 03 2015 18:02 GMT
#19716
On September 03 2015 18:41 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 18:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On September 03 2015 16:21 Kyhron wrote:
If youre playing to just get geared you're missing out on 95% of the reason to play imo. Half the fun of diablo is to be constantly be searching for that piece of gear thats finally an upgrade and to see how well you can push through rifts.

In other news Hamelin is the best boss in the world as an Uliana's monk. Once you have 6 set plus Gungdo Gear he literally kills himself on his constantly spawning rats.

yeah i understand that gear searching is the main reason people keep playing. im just wondering whether i personally would get bored of the game once i finish the campaign again (since i havent played the expansion yet) and i get decent enough gear to get a good feel for the character im playing.
i guess i could keep repeating so that i get to play each character once or whatever, but my goal would just be to test each character then, rather than commit and grind for gears

If you don't like the grind for gear D3 may not give you hundreds of hours. But if you enjoy getting each class up to a full class set, where the build really come together, you'll still get good value for your money compared to most other games.


I did that on Season 1, played a Crusader pretty casually until I completed Akkhan's and Rolands. Then I ran around T4 and called it a season. I wasn't interested in grinding the incremental upgrades to get to T6. (Season 2 and 3 I didn't enjoy because I just didn't enjoy Wiz enough to not play Heroes of the Storm instead)

Gear seems much inflated since then though, so I'm thinking I'll shoot for T7 at least this season.

But ya, if you play casually then it'll take you much longer than the 20 hours people are quoting to get a full set. I was around plvl 100 when I completed my set iirc. I was basically getting 1-2 plvl's / rift and it too many rolls at Kadala before I got any set pieces (never got a fancy weapon either).

I basically played the majority solo with the occasional pub game and with a friend whenever he was online.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 03 2015 18:22 GMT
#19717
On September 04 2015 02:31 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 00:59 digmouse wrote:
You don't even need 1-2 weeks now, if you know what you are doing, 7-8 hours to level 70, then 10 hours tops you are in at least Torment 6 doing the real stuff.

And casually playing at a couple of hours a day, tops, you are looking at a week+ lol

No one meant 1 week in-game time @_@


I was just going to comment too that 17-18 hours is 1-2 weeks of playing.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 03 2015 18:29 GMT
#19718
I have some friends that are really unhappy with the patch because of how fast you can get items and get to the last torment level these days. It's weird that the game got to this kind of issue.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 03 2015 19:05 GMT
#19719
On September 04 2015 03:29 Noocta wrote:
I have some friends that are really unhappy with the patch because of how fast you can get items and get to the last torment level these days. It's weird that the game got to this kind of issue.

get them too slow, people complain. get them too fast, people complain. i think we can safely say that there is nothing Blizzard can do that will stop people from complaining.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-03 19:18:57
September 03 2015 19:14 GMT
#19720
I seriously don't think getting things too fast is an issue. That's such a poor and entitled mindset. WoW had the same complaints for years because the hardcore players kept whining as it got easier to gear up casually in (shitty) epics and stuff. Oh no baddies have purps now too! Muh e-peen! But the fact of the matter is if it takes you 10 hours to get a solid build and start doing GR30+ and it takes some casual hour-after-work dude 10 hours to get similar gear, you are still going to use it more effectively than they are (if you care enough), you're still going to find a way to progress via leaderboards, there is still always something to do. And if gearing a toon up to do the highest torment is your personal goal and you just want it to take longer so you can get more time out of the game, then that's wack lol. Plus even at that minimum level, 10-20 hours per season in a game that's a one-time payment is a pretty solid investment...

With GRs there is no real reason for Blizz to make grinding for gear take longer. If you're a fan of getting those drops and hoping for that one piece of loot after dozens or hundreds of hours then that's a very specific desire, and yeah sure you might burn out sooner. But in general there are ways to progress and push yourself now, with GRs, higher torments, etc. such that you shouldn't feel entitled to "grinding for gear should take a long time 'because Diablo'"
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