Diablo III General Discussion - Page 870

On May 07 2014 02:10 Glacierz wrote:
Are act/rift bosses considered demons? I wonder if there's any reason to keep Tyrael's Might.

On May 07 2014 02:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
Sounds like something Sunkeeper could be an option for. Then again, idk if rift/act bosses count as "elites".
Blizzard plz.

On May 07 2014 03:00 oneofthem wrote:
. look at a treasure gob. sometimes it says demon. i don't think bosses are all demons. don't see any reason to think that either

On May 07 2014 04:51 Glacierz wrote:
Using the leaked loot table and some back of the envelop calculation:

It appears that there are 44 total item types for all classes. Out of these:
19 types are usable by DH
26 types are usable by Barb, Wiz, and Crusader
27 types are usable by WD and Monk

Since we lack information on the loot weight by item type and leg drop chance (which varies by difficulty anyway), I make the following two assumptions:

1. average leg drop of 2 per hour
2. when a leg drops, the probability of it being an specific item type is equally weighted across the types the class can use (it's probably reasonable to assume a 1-5% chance of a non-usable item type, but we ignore this for simplicity).

Using this approach, I calculate:
P(Ceremonial Knife | Legend Drop) = 1/27 = 3.7%
P(Starmetal | Ceremonial Knife) = 1.64%
P(Staremtal | Legend Drop) = 3.7% x 1.64% = 0.0607%

Given expected 2 leg drops per hour, it will take approximately 824 hours of gameplay to find a Starmetal Kukri playing as WD.

If I play 4 hours a day, it will take close to 7 months to get one.

Given this is one of the lowest droprate items, I'd assume most people who stick to playing the game a few hours a day should be able to find whatever they need within a year for a single char, assuming the drops all rolled reasonably*.

Comparing this to D2, I think the rates are actually quite generous.

On May 07 2014 05:12 Glacierz wrote:
True, but I persoanlly stop playing a char once he gets fully geared for the end game. So it seems like the devs targeted a longevity of ~1 year when designing this.

On May 07 2014 04:51 Glacierz wrote:
Using the leaked loot table and some back of the envelop calculation:

It appears that there are 44 total item types for all classes. Out of these:
19 types are usable by DH
26 types are usable by Barb, Wiz, and Crusader
27 types are usable by WD and Monk

Since we lack information on the loot weight by item type and leg drop chance (which varies by difficulty anyway), I make the following two assumptions:

1. average leg drop of 2 per hour
2. when a leg drops, the probability of it being an specific item type is equally weighted across the types the class can use (it's probably reasonable to assume a 1-5% chance of a non-usable item type, but we ignore this for simplicity).

Using this approach, I calculate:
P(Ceremonial Knife | Legend Drop) = 1/27 = 3.7%
P(Starmetal | Ceremonial Knife) = 1.64%
P(Staremtal | Legend Drop) = 3.7% x 1.64% = 0.0607%

Given expected 2 leg drops per hour, it will take approximately 824 hours of gameplay to find a Starmetal Kukri playing as WD.

If I play 4 hours a day, it will take close to 7 months to get one.

Given this is one of the lowest droprate items, I'd assume most people who stick to playing the game a few hours a day should be able to find whatever they need within a year for a single char, assuming the drops all rolled reasonably*.

Comparing this to D2, I think the rates are actually quite generous.

On May 07 2014 07:12 LingsAreBunnies wrote:
the numbers are a lot more generous compared to D2,playing that game for 4-5 years and I dont think I saw more than 10 high runes drop, let alone specific ones for runewords. Im fairly sure the only reason I even got the high end gears in d2 was because of the huge amount of duping and botting that drove runes value down to socketed whites/gems. in terms of drops, the one problem I see with the current system for d3 is that once a character gets well geared, theres very little reason to keep playing on it since you cant use it to farm gears for your other characters.

On May 07 2014 02:27 NeoIllusions wrote:

Tyrael's Might is shit regardless. Demons make up mostly A5 monsters. They actually have to say "Demon" in subtext under the monster name type. There's too few demons in rifts to make Tyrael's Might worthwhile.