• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:44
CET 07:44
KST 15:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30
Tourneys
SC2 iNu's Battles #22 SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ List of top players active on ShieldBattery Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Playlenda
Playlendapro
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13068 users

Diablo III General Discussion - Page 868

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 866 867 868 869 870 1109 Next
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 05 2014 16:38 GMT
#17341
On May 06 2014 01:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
I've gotten all of them (3 Last Breaths, 2 Anessazi Edges) except Umbral Oath and Starmetal.

actually, now that i look at that list. i think i've actually only gotten 1 leg ceremonial knife, got um confused with daggers.
liftlift > tsm
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
May 05 2014 17:30 GMT
#17342
I've only gotten the Giddbin... Also missing zuni chest, every time a green chest drops I have been trollthorned.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3205787
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 05 2014 17:33 GMT
#17343
On May 06 2014 02:30 Glacierz wrote:
I've only gotten the Giddbin... Also missing zuni chest, every time a green chest drops I have been trollthorned.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3205787

That's a solid WD build man. Just need perfect leg rolls for improvements, but aside from lack of starmetal, really solid build.
liftlift > tsm
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 17:46:35
May 05 2014 17:46 GMT
#17344
Yea completing either starmetal or zuni would probably double my effective DPS. My garg's highest crit was 170m back when I had magefists on, but most of the time he sits there idle even when there are mobs around. The fetish army is much more reliable if you can keep them up longer.
Yosheekee
Profile Joined April 2011
France111 Posts
May 05 2014 18:09 GMT
#17345
Quick question for Glacierz : how far can you solo farm with your WD and this build ?
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 18:32:55
May 05 2014 18:22 GMT
#17346
With this build T3 is pretty easy(should never die solo), T4 is OK, T5/6 I die a lot (Uhkapian serpent + unity trick is needed I think). I don't think pet build is good for high torment, you probably want the Jade harvester build. My current setup allows me to burst down elites and rift boss within a few seconds. I have 52% bonus dmg to elites from the gear bonus on top of the elemental dmg that's not shown on sheet. Ideally you'd want to switch to full physical dmg instead of my fire/phys hybrid.

Also in terms of pre-zuni gear, the offhand "thing of the deep" with 20 pickup radius is really good in combination with the WD cdr passive, using that with crimson's boots + pants/belt, plus a diamond in helm will probably be ideal for low torment speed farming until starmetal/zuni.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 05 2014 18:40 GMT
#17347
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wei2coolman-1899/hero/40798902

I'm doing T3 with relative ease, takes about 15~20 min per rift, highly dependent on rift density, if good density 10 min rift is not out of question.
liftlift > tsm
Yosheekee
Profile Joined April 2011
France111 Posts
May 05 2014 18:50 GMT
#17348
Thank you ! I know i'm far from this right now. I'm doing T1 solo, but not that fast. It takes me like 30sec to 1min to kill a campaign boss, around 90 sec to 2 min to kill a rift boss.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Yosheekee-2864/hero/45534485

My build is clearly not optimal, it's pretty random actually, reading stuff around and adjusting. But i hate the firebat spell, and can't get rid of my bears. So i have to adjust. Still, untill i get some decent leg/Set pieces, i'm kinda hitting a wall and don't really know what should be my priorities now : Normal fast speed farming ? T1 ? What gear should i aim for besides the set pieces for pet build ?

I just started to understand very recently (aka this afternoon) that i should pay more attention to a stat that i was proudly ignoring untill then : +% elemental damage. Like, i should aim for physical if i understand correctly. BUT, what is most important ? That stat, or critical chance ? Or critical damage ? Attack speed ? I'm confused

(Note that i'm not playing a lot, like,5-10 hours a week max)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 05 2014 19:01 GMT
#17349
AS is distinctly worse than CC/CD/Elemental damage. Generally with all pieces that give elemental damage, you want to stack it with CC/CD as well.

First thing I would do with your guy is get new gloves. It's easy enough to find rare gloves and give um perfect trifecta rolls of CC/CD/Main Stat. Eventually you want Tasker + Theo. New rings are next, start off with trifecta rare rings, which should be easy enough. CC/CD/Main Stat. The only rings that are any good are SoJ/Unity/RorG. If you don't have any of these to roll, don't' bother rolling any other leg rings, just use trifecta rares until you get replacement of those 3 I mentioned.

Aside from starmetal for weapon, doombringer is another 1h you should be look at to replace that Azurewrath,

Also, you'll find yourself clearing a lot faster if you get Fetish Army as skill.
liftlift > tsm
Yosheekee
Profile Joined April 2011
France111 Posts
May 05 2014 19:05 GMT
#17350
Thanks. Should i remove piranha's then ?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 19:14:42
May 05 2014 19:11 GMT
#17351
On May 06 2014 04:05 Yosheekee wrote:
Thanks. Should i remove piranha's then ?

Yeah, that's an option.
Also you're too far specced into defensive. Pretty much the rule of thumb for softcore is 100% of primary slot should be Main Stat/CC/CD/Elemental/Main skill dmg increase. Any left over primary slot is then left to defensive (usually Vit offers the most defensive). So usually your main defensive state gain is from stuff like Shoulder/Belts/Helms/Chests/Pants/Boots. Also Movespeed is a very good defensive stat.
liftlift > tsm
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 19:33:55
May 05 2014 19:17 GMT
#17352
Ideally, aside from main stat and vitality, you should look for the following bonuses from each gear:

Head: 6% CC, 15% skill dmg of your choice, for pet build, Mask of Jeram is a must.
Shoulders: 15% Life, 15% skill dmg of your choice, Cooldown reduction (before Zuni set / starmetal)
Ammy: 20% elemental dmg, 10% CC, 100% CHD
Chest: Need to be zuni for pet build, stats are not important here, just make sure it has 3 sockets.
Gloves: 10% CC, 50% CHD, 7% Attack Speed, for pet build, Tasker and Theo is a must, magefist is a alternative before you find one.
Bracers: 6% CC, 20% elemental dmg
Rings: My personal opinion is, all rings are worthless except RoRG, Unity, and SoJ, look for 6% CC + 50% CHD
Belt: Lots of options, pets benefits from % attack speed from armor pieces (not weapon), so Hellcat, Witching Hour are good options. Harrington or good set belts are also great.
Pants: Set pants with skill dmg % or high armor, pretty flexible slot
Boots: Set boots with % skill dmg, need to be zuni for pet build.
Weapon: Starmetal/doombringer for pet build.
Offhand: Uhkapian serpent is a popular choice among higher torments, but zuni is necessary for set bonus for pet build.

Because of Jeram mask, you can't use zuni mask for the 4 piece bonus, so it must be RoRG/zuni ring, plus zuni armor, boots, and offhand.

Spec for phys elemental dmg for pet build.

The elemental % dmg does not show up on your sheet dps, but you can check it on diabloprogress.com to figure out which one to go for. What stats to focus on depends on all the other pieces you have. Generally, you want 1:10 ratio between CC and CHD, so basically if you have 40% CC, you would need about 400% CHD for optimal dmg output. I'd gradually add elemental dmg as upgrades. With high enough paragon levels, you will have more flexibility in the ratio on the gear, and fix it up with proper CC/CHD from paragon offensive stats.
Yosheekee
Profile Joined April 2011
France111 Posts
May 05 2014 19:26 GMT
#17353
Wow, thank you both for your detailed answers ! I'll try to work on that
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 05 2014 19:45 GMT
#17354
I'm convinced that pet WD should run Hexing Pants.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 05 2014 20:07 GMT
#17355
On May 06 2014 04:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
I'm convinced that pet WD should run Hexing Pants.

It's solid item. But requires too much effort to use. The whole point of pet build is to afk while your pets are doing the work. Hue hue
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 05 2014 20:10 GMT
#17356
Too much effort... to run around?
wei plz
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 05 2014 20:12 GMT
#17357
On May 06 2014 05:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Too much effort... to run around?
wei plz

If you're not standing still while fighting rift guardian. You're playing the game wrong. Tehehe.
liftlift > tsm
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
May 05 2014 20:22 GMT
#17358
My fight with rift guardian goes like this: press 3 buttons, take a sip of my drink, collect loot. RG loses like 1/5 of its hp when my garg punches it once. The trick is to clear the area before summoning him so he only has one target.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
May 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#17359
The worst maps for pet WD before Starmetal/zuni are the ones with low density in huge open areas. I often run into elite packs when all my skills are on CD, it gets pretty awkward.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
May 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#17360
So is WD like the best class right now?

I've got 3 level 70s... My DH pretty much completely sucks and I haven't played her much.

My Barb is my favorite, but he's very very weak. I'm hearing that the gear barrier for a good barb is super high. Like, until you've got multiple Earth set pieces your life sucks.

My Wiz is my strongest. She just crossed over 1mm sheet dps. Still running F-Orb on her because its fun. Not really sure where to go without replacing everything.

Do you guys think its gonna take very long to farm up some passable WD gear with my Wiz?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Prev 1 866 867 868 869 870 1109 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 180
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 71763
Rain 1574
Bale 40
ZergMaN 23
Noble 18
firebathero 17
yabsab 11
Icarus 8
Force[name] 4
NotJumperer 2
Dota 2
ODPixel137
League of Legends
JimRising 610
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King52
Other Games
summit1g9650
Coldzera 774
XaKoH 430
WinterStarcraft353
C9.Mang0221
Happy155
NeuroSwarm80
Sick80
ViBE42
Railgan5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick559
BasetradeTV142
Counter-Strike
PGL62
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2143
League of Legends
• Rush1139
• Lourlo862
• Stunt387
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 17m
WardiTV Invitational
5h 17m
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
OSC
16h 17m
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
PiGosaur Cup
18h 17m
INu's Battles
1d 5h
ByuN vs Classic
3D!Clan Event
1d 9h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
IPSL
4 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-09
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.