I've only gotten the Giddbin... Also missing zuni chest, every time a green chest drops I have been trollthorned.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3205787

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

May 05 2014 17:33 GMT

#17343

On May 06 2014 02:30 Glacierz wrote:
I've only gotten the Giddbin... Also missing zuni chest, every time a green chest drops I have been trollthorned.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3205787

That's a solid WD build man. Just need perfect leg rolls for improvements, but aside from lack of starmetal, really solid build.

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

May 05 2014 17:46 GMT

#17344

Yea completing either starmetal or zuni would probably double my effective DPS. My garg's highest crit was 170m back when I had magefists on, but most of the time he sits there idle even when there are mobs around. The fetish army is much more reliable if you can keep them up longer.

Yosheekee

France111 Posts

May 05 2014 18:09 GMT

#17345

Quick question for Glacierz : how far can you solo farm with your WD and this build ?

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

May 05 2014 18:22 GMT

#17346

With this build T3 is pretty easy(should never die solo), T4 is OK, T5/6 I die a lot (Uhkapian serpent + unity trick is needed I think). I don't think pet build is good for high torment, you probably want the Jade harvester build. My current setup allows me to burst down elites and rift boss within a few seconds. I have 52% bonus dmg to elites from the gear bonus on top of the elemental dmg that's not shown on sheet. Ideally you'd want to switch to full physical dmg instead of my fire/phys hybrid.

Also in terms of pre-zuni gear, the offhand "thing of the deep" with 20 pickup radius is really good in combination with the WD cdr passive, using that with crimson's boots + pants/belt, plus a diamond in helm will probably be ideal for low torment speed farming until starmetal/zuni.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

May 05 2014 18:40 GMT

#17347

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/wei2coolman-1899/hero/40798902

I'm doing T3 with relative ease, takes about 15~20 min per rift, highly dependent on rift density, if good density 10 min rift is not out of question.

Yosheekee

France111 Posts

May 05 2014 18:50 GMT

#17348

Thank you ! I know i'm far from this right now. I'm doing T1 solo, but not that fast. It takes me like 30sec to 1min to kill a campaign boss, around 90 sec to 2 min to kill a rift boss.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Yosheekee-2864/hero/45534485

My build is clearly not optimal, it's pretty random actually, reading stuff around and adjusting. But i hate the firebat spell, and can't get rid of my bears. So i have to adjust. Still, untill i get some decent leg/Set pieces, i'm kinda hitting a wall and don't really know what should be my priorities now : Normal fast speed farming ? T1 ? What gear should i aim for besides the set pieces for pet build ?

I just started to understand very recently (aka this afternoon) that i should pay more attention to a stat that i was proudly ignoring untill then : +% elemental damage. Like, i should aim for physical if i understand correctly. BUT, what is most important ? That stat, or critical chance ? Or critical damage ? Attack speed ? I'm confused

(Note that i'm not playing a lot, like,5-10 hours a week max)

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

May 05 2014 19:01 GMT

#17349

AS is distinctly worse than CC/CD/Elemental damage. Generally with all pieces that give elemental damage, you want to stack it with CC/CD as well.

First thing I would do with your guy is get new gloves. It's easy enough to find rare gloves and give um perfect trifecta rolls of CC/CD/Main Stat. Eventually you want Tasker + Theo. New rings are next, start off with trifecta rare rings, which should be easy enough. CC/CD/Main Stat. The only rings that are any good are SoJ/Unity/RorG. If you don't have any of these to roll, don't' bother rolling any other leg rings, just use trifecta rares until you get replacement of those 3 I mentioned.

Aside from starmetal for weapon, doombringer is another 1h you should be look at to replace that Azurewrath,

Also, you'll find yourself clearing a lot faster if you get Fetish Army as skill.

Yosheekee

France111 Posts

May 05 2014 19:05 GMT

#17350

Thanks. Should i remove piranha's then ?

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

May 05 2014 19:11 GMT

#17351

On May 06 2014 04:05 Yosheekee wrote:
Thanks. Should i remove piranha's then ?

Yeah, that's an option.
Also you're too far specced into defensive. Pretty much the rule of thumb for softcore is 100% of primary slot should be Main Stat/CC/CD/Elemental/Main skill dmg increase. Any left over primary slot is then left to defensive (usually Vit offers the most defensive). So usually your main defensive state gain is from stuff like Shoulder/Belts/Helms/Chests/Pants/Boots. Also Movespeed is a very good defensive stat.

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

May 05 2014 19:17 GMT

#17352

Ideally, aside from main stat and vitality, you should look for the following bonuses from each gear:

Head: 6% CC, 15% skill dmg of your choice, for pet build, Mask of Jeram is a must.
Shoulders: 15% Life, 15% skill dmg of your choice, Cooldown reduction (before Zuni set / starmetal)
Ammy: 20% elemental dmg, 10% CC, 100% CHD
Chest: Need to be zuni for pet build, stats are not important here, just make sure it has 3 sockets.
Gloves: 10% CC, 50% CHD, 7% Attack Speed, for pet build, Tasker and Theo is a must, magefist is a alternative before you find one.
Bracers: 6% CC, 20% elemental dmg
Rings: My personal opinion is, all rings are worthless except RoRG, Unity, and SoJ, look for 6% CC + 50% CHD
Belt: Lots of options, pets benefits from % attack speed from armor pieces (not weapon), so Hellcat, Witching Hour are good options. Harrington or good set belts are also great.
Pants: Set pants with skill dmg % or high armor, pretty flexible slot
Boots: Set boots with % skill dmg, need to be zuni for pet build.
Weapon: Starmetal/doombringer for pet build.
Offhand: Uhkapian serpent is a popular choice among higher torments, but zuni is necessary for set bonus for pet build.

Because of Jeram mask, you can't use zuni mask for the 4 piece bonus, so it must be RoRG/zuni ring, plus zuni armor, boots, and offhand.

Spec for phys elemental dmg for pet build.

The elemental % dmg does not show up on your sheet dps, but you can check it on diabloprogress.com to figure out which one to go for. What stats to focus on depends on all the other pieces you have. Generally, you want 1:10 ratio between CC and CHD, so basically if you have 40% CC, you would need about 400% CHD for optimal dmg output. I'd gradually add elemental dmg as upgrades. With high enough paragon levels, you will have more flexibility in the ratio on the gear, and fix it up with proper CC/CHD from paragon offensive stats.

Yosheekee

France111 Posts

May 05 2014 19:26 GMT

#17353

Wow, thank you both for your detailed answers ! I'll try to work on that

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

May 05 2014 19:45 GMT

#17354

I'm convinced that pet WD should run Hexing Pants.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

May 05 2014 20:07 GMT

#17355

On May 06 2014 04:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
I'm convinced that pet WD should run Hexing Pants.

It's solid item. But requires too much effort to use. The whole point of pet build is to afk while your pets are doing the work. Hue hue

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

May 05 2014 20:10 GMT

#17356

Too much effort... to run around?
wei plz

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

May 05 2014 20:12 GMT

#17357

On May 06 2014 05:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Too much effort... to run around?
wei plz

If you're not standing still while fighting rift guardian. You're playing the game wrong. Tehehe.

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

May 05 2014 20:22 GMT

#17358

My fight with rift guardian goes like this: press 3 buttons, take a sip of my drink, collect loot. RG loses like 1/5 of its hp when my garg punches it once. The trick is to clear the area before summoning him so he only has one target.

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

May 05 2014 20:27 GMT

#17359

The worst maps for pet WD before Starmetal/zuni are the ones with low density in huge open areas. I often run into elite packs when all my skills are on CD, it gets pretty awkward.

Terranasaur

United States2085 Posts

May 05 2014 20:27 GMT

#17360

So is WD like the best class right now?

I've got 3 level 70s... My DH pretty much completely sucks and I haven't played her much.

My Barb is my favorite, but he's very very weak. I'm hearing that the gear barrier for a good barb is super high. Like, until you've got multiple Earth set pieces your life sucks.

My Wiz is my strongest. She just crossed over 1mm sheet dps. Still running F-Orb on her because its fun. Not really sure where to go without replacing everything.

Do you guys think its gonna take very long to farm up some passable WD gear with my Wiz?