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heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
December 18 2012 19:23 GMT
#15141
On December 19 2012 04:17 FallDownMarigold wrote:
son of a bitch lol. Locked outta my account because I foolishly attempted to use the bnet account settings via iPhone



The unlocking process literally takes 2 minutes.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 18 2012 21:12 GMT
#15142
Probably the biggest ban wave just hit. Kinda have mixed feelings about it ;/ Cuze i enjoyed the game alot when not botting but at least i broke even with all the 20 accounts i just got banned meh :>

User was banned for this post.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
December 18 2012 23:13 GMT
#15143
On December 19 2012 06:12 TheBJ wrote:
Probably the biggest ban wave just hit. Kinda have mixed feelings about it ;/ Cuze i enjoyed the game alot when not botting but at least i broke even with all the 20 accounts i just got banned meh :>


I loathe you for botting.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 18 2012 23:34 GMT
#15144
On December 19 2012 08:13 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 06:12 TheBJ wrote:
Probably the biggest ban wave just hit. Kinda have mixed feelings about it ;/ Cuze i enjoyed the game alot when not botting but at least i broke even with all the 20 accounts i just got banned meh :>


I loathe you for botting.

2:nd.

Would be good if we could ban people that admit to botting. While it will not stop botting, allowing botters will just give a green light to whoever wants to do it. Let it at least be known that most people don't approve of it...
But as this is a starcraft site (well, not any longer, but...) I guess that won't happen.
Dooba
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Croatia588 Posts
December 18 2012 23:37 GMT
#15145
On December 19 2012 08:13 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 06:12 TheBJ wrote:
Probably the biggest ban wave just hit. Kinda have mixed feelings about it ;/ Cuze i enjoyed the game alot when not botting but at least i broke even with all the 20 accounts i just got banned meh :>


I loathe you for botting.



Yeah, either huge troll or big loathing aimed at TheBJ.
"Zergs are really stronger. I use to win 60-70%, now it is 40-50. I am switching to civilization 5 for now until any terran can come up with a better tactics."
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
December 18 2012 23:52 GMT
#15146
Bots flooded the auction house and made the prices drop dramatically
For casuals like me it's a good thing cause i can afford items with a very limited budget.
I'm not selling shit but who cares the game is fun to play from times to times
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
December 19 2012 01:20 GMT
#15147
On December 19 2012 04:23 heishe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:17 FallDownMarigold wrote:
son of a bitch lol. Locked outta my account because I foolishly attempted to use the bnet account settings via iPhone



The unlocking process literally takes 2 minutes.


Cool, maybe it did for you. Not the case for me. I had txt verification enabled evidently, and there is a problem receiving the unlock code now. Thanks for the positive vibes though..lol
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
December 19 2012 07:26 GMT
#15148
So after going 13 runs in a row on MP5 without getting a key I finally get the key I needed. We played ubers yesterday with full team. MP5 again. 1/12 uber bosses drops for me. So now I sit on 2 of one material and 6 of the other, and I still have no ring. RNG my ass, Blizzard hates me.
Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
December 19 2012 07:56 GMT
#15149
On December 19 2012 16:26 dpurple wrote:
So after going 13 runs in a row on MP5 without getting a key I finally get the key I needed. We played ubers yesterday with full team. MP5 again. 1/12 uber bosses drops for me. So now I sit on 2 of one material and 6 of the other, and I still have no ring. RNG my ass, Blizzard hates me.


On which server do you play? If you´re on EU i could probably carry you on MP7-8 with my group. Or you just find yourself someone who can carry you on MP10, i got incredibly unlucky with drop on everything lower than MP7 too...
RIP Geoff “iNcontroL" Robinson, September 11, 1985 - July 20, 2019
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 08:59:02
December 19 2012 08:57 GMT
#15150
The RNG of Blizzard may be buggy, or somewhat off. As far as I remember, one dude of elitistjerks did some nice data collection on this a few years ago for WoW, and they noticed a huge variance and standard deviation from the expected values of drops after a certain number of tries, e.g. a lot people would literally go dozens of runs without finding something that supposedly had a 1x% drop chance while a lot of other people would get those items dozens of times in a row, thus evening out the EVs in the distribution but making it feel like a roaler coaster for individual persons.

Back then it seemed like the distribution their RNG was simulating wasn't evenly distributed for all users smoothly, instead there were a lot of spikes. I have no idea if they have an RNG engineer over at Blizzard or something, but I don't think it's completely unlikely that they just used old WoW server RNG code because they deemed it working (don't fix what's not broken), so it might still have the same spikes. This would explain 13+ 50% runs (that's less than a 0.0002% chance) that a lot of people seem to be experiencing.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
December 19 2012 09:27 GMT
#15151
On December 19 2012 08:34 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:13 Grovbolle wrote:
On December 19 2012 06:12 TheBJ wrote:
Probably the biggest ban wave just hit. Kinda have mixed feelings about it ;/ Cuze i enjoyed the game alot when not botting but at least i broke even with all the 20 accounts i just got banned meh :>


I loathe you for botting.

2:nd.

Would be good if we could ban people that admit to botting. While it will not stop botting, allowing botters will just give a green light to whoever wants to do it. Let it at least be known that most people don't approve of it...
But as this is a starcraft site (well, not any longer, but...) I guess that won't happen.


Well i had 920~~ fair hours of game play on my dh , but it gets really pointless to farm trying to sell something or make gold when you know u'd make at least 5 times that if u bot and that it had been gone unpunished for so long. All my friends were botting and eventually i started as well. I might play again at the expansion but the game is kinda meh either way atm. The softcore economy has no money sink so prices are just crap and only perfect rolls sell.Look in a perfect world I would be the first to hate botting , but its inevitable at this point. My friend is has been using 16 bots , actually he just bought a 2nd pc ofr the sole purpose on going for 16 more , its that profitable. Does it suck for legit players? Hell yes , but after knowing how much items/gold he makes its quite depressing and hard to return to normal play. You might loathe me for it , but actually i have been doing it quite late ( last 2 months only ). And I know people who have been doing it for at least 4-5. I dont think its our fault , but blizzards fault to allow this. Im pretty sure 80% if not more of the gold and items on ah are from bots.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 19 2012 09:32 GMT
#15152
On December 19 2012 18:27 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:34 Cascade wrote:
On December 19 2012 08:13 Grovbolle wrote:
On December 19 2012 06:12 TheBJ wrote:
Probably the biggest ban wave just hit. Kinda have mixed feelings about it ;/ Cuze i enjoyed the game alot when not botting but at least i broke even with all the 20 accounts i just got banned meh :>


I loathe you for botting.

2:nd.

Would be good if we could ban people that admit to botting. While it will not stop botting, allowing botters will just give a green light to whoever wants to do it. Let it at least be known that most people don't approve of it...
But as this is a starcraft site (well, not any longer, but...) I guess that won't happen.


Well i had 920~~ fair hours of game play on my dh , but it gets really pointless to farm trying to sell something or make gold when you know u'd make at least 5 times that if u bot and that it had been gone unpunished for so long. All my friends were botting and eventually i started as well. I might play again at the expansion but the game is kinda meh either way atm. The softcore economy has no money sink so prices are just crap and only perfect rolls sell.Look in a perfect world I would be the first to hate botting , but its inevitable at this point. My friend is has been using 16 bots , actually he just bought a 2nd pc ofr the sole purpose on going for 16 more , its that profitable. Does it suck for legit players? Hell yes , but after knowing how much items/gold he makes its quite depressing and hard to return to normal play. You might loathe me for it , but actually i have been doing it quite late ( last 2 months only ). And I know people who have been doing it for at least 4-5. I dont think its our fault , but blizzards fault to allow this. Im pretty sure 80% if not more of the gold and items on ah are from bots.


I dont think its our fault , but blizzards fault to allow this.

lol. you are a piece of work.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
December 19 2012 10:00 GMT
#15153
On December 19 2012 18:27 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:34 Cascade wrote:
On December 19 2012 08:13 Grovbolle wrote:
On December 19 2012 06:12 TheBJ wrote:
Probably the biggest ban wave just hit. Kinda have mixed feelings about it ;/ Cuze i enjoyed the game alot when not botting but at least i broke even with all the 20 accounts i just got banned meh :>


I loathe you for botting.

2:nd.

Would be good if we could ban people that admit to botting. While it will not stop botting, allowing botters will just give a green light to whoever wants to do it. Let it at least be known that most people don't approve of it...
But as this is a starcraft site (well, not any longer, but...) I guess that won't happen.


Well i had 920~~ fair hours of game play on my dh , but it gets really pointless to farm trying to sell something or make gold when you know u'd make at least 5 times that if u bot and that it had been gone unpunished for so long. All my friends were botting and eventually i started as well. I might play again at the expansion but the game is kinda meh either way atm. The softcore economy has no money sink so prices are just crap and only perfect rolls sell.Look in a perfect world I would be the first to hate botting , but its inevitable at this point. My friend is has been using 16 bots , actually he just bought a 2nd pc ofr the sole purpose on going for 16 more , its that profitable. Does it suck for legit players? Hell yes , but after knowing how much items/gold he makes its quite depressing and hard to return to normal play. You might loathe me for it , but actually i have been doing it quite late ( last 2 months only ). And I know people who have been doing it for at least 4-5. I dont think its our fault , but blizzards fault to allow this. Im pretty sure 80% if not more of the gold and items on ah are from bots.



So did this ban wave work properly? How many people got through in your opinion?
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
December 19 2012 10:06 GMT
#15154
While botting has both negative and positive effects, in a game like D3, it only affects the economy - mostly negative with gold deflation, but sometime positive with gem prices. It's not like a first person shooter where a botter would headshot you thru a wall with an aim-bot and ruin your day. It would be like someone raising the price on your AK-47 but making bullets free or somesuch.

I think most people on these forums have either downloaded something ignoring copyrights (*cough* Ted) or bought something online specifically to avoid paying sales tax (Hi 50" TV). Both are technically against the law, but people do it anyways because it is so easy to get away with. Periodic ban waves ain't going to do anything. I'm sure 90% of the recent deals for Diablo 3 for $10 are being used to bot. >_>
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4025 Posts
December 19 2012 11:46 GMT
#15155
Wish they could make the game so that it would be impossible to write good bots. On the other hand, as soon as a game starts to be about farming it's an indication it isn't that great. If your bot isn't there to do the work, that means you'll have to do that implicitly repetitive task.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
December 19 2012 15:37 GMT
#15156
On December 19 2012 20:46 aseq wrote:
Wish they could make the game so that it would be impossible to write good bots. On the other hand, as soon as a game starts to be about farming it's an indication it isn't that great. If your bot isn't there to do the work, that means you'll have to do that implicitly repetitive task.


Thats kinda why you buy the game, to play it.

No for some program to get the job done for you.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Arwa
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia24 Posts
December 19 2012 16:03 GMT
#15157
On December 17 2012 07:12 Grovbolle wrote:
So my friend found a tal rashas allegiance with
6% lightning dmg
289 Int
239 Vit
9% crit chance
62% Crit dmg
......

On Hardcore :D


WTH ..
Gratz for your friend ...
...
....
.....
Really a hardcore neck
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
December 19 2012 16:25 GMT
#15158
On December 20 2012 01:03 Arwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 07:12 Grovbolle wrote:
So my friend found a tal rashas allegiance with
6% lightning dmg
289 Int
239 Vit
9% crit chance
62% Crit dmg
......

On Hardcore :D


WTH ..
Gratz for your friend ...
...
....
.....
Really a hardcore neck


Yeah, it is fucking mentally good
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4025 Posts
December 19 2012 16:57 GMT
#15159
On December 20 2012 00:37 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 20:46 aseq wrote:
Wish they could make the game so that it would be impossible to write good bots. On the other hand, as soon as a game starts to be about farming it's an indication it isn't that great. If your bot isn't there to do the work, that means you'll have to do that implicitly repetitive task.


Thats kinda why you buy the game, to play it.

No for some program to get the job done for you.


Very true. But the very thought about the farming process, and the necessity or partaking in it to be able to compete in the endgame, makes me tired before having started. This process makes the game unsuited for a percentage of players ( including me), but I can understand that for some of them this is one of 3 options (besides putting in lots of time or quitting).

ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
December 19 2012 20:41 GMT
#15160
On December 20 2012 01:57 aseq wrote:
Very true. But the very thought about the farming process, and the necessity or partaking in it to be able to compete in the endgame, makes me tired before having started. This process makes the game unsuited for a percentage of players ( including me), but I can understand that for some of them this is one of 3 options (besides putting in lots of time or quitting).


This sort of thinking is something I have trouble understanding. The farming is the endgame (given that PVP is nowhere in sight). How is a slot machine competitive? Pulling the lever faster? Upon what are you setting your benchmark? Is it the Top-100 geared players? The record holders? IMO, if you're competing with anyone other than yourself in Diablo 3 you cease to be playing for fun and, more power to you, the game is probably not a good fit for you.
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