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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-02 15:08:11
July 02 2010 15:02 GMT
#101
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.
it's my first day
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 02 2010 15:28 GMT
#102
On July 01 2010 06:57 Alak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 06:51 Jayme wrote:
On June 30 2010 22:31 Highways wrote:
Diablo is for noobs.

Might as well play The Sims.

+ Show Spoiler +
I also expect people to prefer d3 over sc2 on gamefaqs, not teamliquid.

I guess you can't stop the casuals these days.


The hell is this?

Maybe people don't like SC2 because it's not that great of a game right now? That just might be it and it has nothing to do with being casual. I played WoW EXTREMELY hardcore (Im saying crazy 6-8 hours a day..no not proud of it -.-) and as of right now I still would prefer D3 over SC2 simply because while SC2 is good...it's nothing ground breaking and I had always been more addicted to D2 over SC back when I played both an insane amount.

Something about D2 just hooked me, the item hunting, the different characters, the skill tree. I just plain liked the game, a lot. You can play the diablo series pretty hardcore lol.


I think everyone were doing their best to pretend that the post wasn't made. Just look the other way, don't make eye contact and whatever you do, don't show him your teeth.



Actually Jayme has a valid point. Diablo might appear to be a more casual game than something like Starcraft, but that doesn't mean they don't have a big hardcore gamer base.

I went through a D2 phase where I would play the game hours on end too.

Many of my friends were able to pay their way through college by setting up stores to sell items. They asked me if I wanted to join in, but I was never in it for the profit. There are plenty of TL posters who played Diablo a lot more than Starcraft including some of the mods. Beyonder being one of them. That doesn't mean we don't love Starcraft too.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
July 02 2010 15:48 GMT
#103
On July 03 2010 00:02 myopia wrote:
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.


If you look at places like JSP Enigma is not worth a lot compared to a lot of other things. Ever try to find a perfect upped eth shaftstop? A perfect bramble? Perfect low str req high def dragon armor? All of which worth A LOT more then Enigma... its just enigma was the flavour of the month for hammerdins. Even in PvP you didn't NEED Enigma if you could find proper gear, or you were a sorc, barb, sin, and about 50% of the builds with the other classes.

Enigma was the poor mans good armor , the same way people ran around with BotD weapons when really they weren't that good people just liked running around with high hr requirement rune words even if there were much better things out there .

The big thing was that it was the flavour of the month so everyone wanted it driving up its price, really I would much rather have A LOT of other armors for my builds.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
July 02 2010 15:54 GMT
#104
lmao i thought runewords were most awesome shit ever especially enigma.

how can anyone not think a dual claw wielding, teleporting at 136 fcr (or whatever the breakpoint is) casting trips, mind blasting , whirlwindiing sexy looking assassin is PURE AWESOME?

:D

and yea im more excited for d3 than sc2 lol

also a d2 addict
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-02 16:05:53
July 02 2010 16:05 GMT
#105
On July 03 2010 00:48 Insanious wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 03 2010 00:02 myopia wrote:
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.


If you look at places like JSP Enigma is not worth a lot compared to a lot of other things. Ever try to find a perfect upped eth shaftstop? A perfect bramble? Perfect low str req high def dragon armor? All of which worth A LOT more then Enigma... its just enigma was the flavour of the month for hammerdins. Even in PvP you didn't NEED Enigma if you could find proper gear, or you were a sorc, barb, sin, and about 50% of the builds with the other classes.

Enigma was the poor mans good armor , the same way people ran around with BotD weapons when really they weren't that good people just liked running around with high hr requirement rune words even if there were much better things out there .

The big thing was that it was the flavour of the month so everyone wanted it driving up its price, really I would much rather have A LOT of other armors for my builds.



what would you recommend over a BotD, I've been playing a frenzy barb during sc2 beta downtime, and I plan on running Enigma + BotD. I know they are flavor of the month but what do you feel is better?
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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
July 02 2010 16:09 GMT
#106
On July 03 2010 01:05 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 00:48 Insanious wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 03 2010 00:02 myopia wrote:
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.


If you look at places like JSP Enigma is not worth a lot compared to a lot of other things. Ever try to find a perfect upped eth shaftstop? A perfect bramble? Perfect low str req high def dragon armor? All of which worth A LOT more then Enigma... its just enigma was the flavour of the month for hammerdins. Even in PvP you didn't NEED Enigma if you could find proper gear, or you were a sorc, barb, sin, and about 50% of the builds with the other classes.

Enigma was the poor mans good armor , the same way people ran around with BotD weapons when really they weren't that good people just liked running around with high hr requirement rune words even if there were much better things out there .

The big thing was that it was the flavour of the month so everyone wanted it driving up its price, really I would much rather have A LOT of other armors for my builds.



what would you recommend over a BotD, I've been playing a frenzy barb during sc2 beta downtime, and I plan on running Enigma + BotD. I know they are flavor of the month but what do you feel is better?


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3253/nicezerk9ix6xg5ai3ga.jpg

thats better than botd.. but probably the most valuable item in the game

anyway iv never made a frenzy barb but u can dual wield beast/botd (beast = fanat aura)
also check grief..

Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
July 02 2010 16:14 GMT
#107
Does anyone remember the dueling community of clan wesuck!/gosupvp/pvp-east from roughly 2002-2003 patch 1.08 and 1.09? How about any of the regulars?
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
July 02 2010 16:44 GMT
#108
On July 03 2010 01:05 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 00:48 Insanious wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 03 2010 00:02 myopia wrote:
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.


If you look at places like JSP Enigma is not worth a lot compared to a lot of other things. Ever try to find a perfect upped eth shaftstop? A perfect bramble? Perfect low str req high def dragon armor? All of which worth A LOT more then Enigma... its just enigma was the flavour of the month for hammerdins. Even in PvP you didn't NEED Enigma if you could find proper gear, or you were a sorc, barb, sin, and about 50% of the builds with the other classes.

Enigma was the poor mans good armor , the same way people ran around with BotD weapons when really they weren't that good people just liked running around with high hr requirement rune words even if there were much better things out there .

The big thing was that it was the flavour of the month so everyone wanted it driving up its price, really I would much rather have A LOT of other armors for my builds.



what would you recommend over a BotD, I've been playing a frenzy barb during sc2 beta downtime, and I plan on running Enigma + BotD. I know they are flavor of the month but what do you feel is better?

Depends...

For PvE I would run last wish and beast... but thats just me. For armor well enigma is fine for the tele... although as a frenzy barb you could easily just run every where if you plan on using the frenzy run speed then just run a fortitude

TL;DR: 1x last wish zerker 1 x beast zerker, 1 x sup wirefleece fortitude IMHO.
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Cinicraft
Profile Joined November 2009
15 Posts
July 02 2010 17:10 GMT
#109
im assuming D3 wont be out until very late 2011 or mid 2012
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 02 2010 17:17 GMT
#110
Yeah...I can't wait for D3. HUGE fan of both of the previous installments. So it can only get better.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
July 02 2010 20:33 GMT
#111
For anyone looking for something to do while waiting for D3, I'd recommend trying out Torchlight. It's pretty much a Diablo clone with better graphics.

Note that I did not play D2, so it might be horrible compared to that I missed its heyday and, color me shallow, but I couldn't really stand playing with the graphics when I tried it a year ago. That being said, I'm having a lot of fun with Torchlight.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 02 2010 20:43 GMT
#112
On July 03 2010 00:48 Insanious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 00:02 myopia wrote:
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.


If you look at places like JSP Enigma is not worth a lot compared to a lot of other things. Ever try to find a perfect upped eth shaftstop? A perfect bramble? Perfect low str req high def dragon armor? All of which worth A LOT more then Enigma... its just enigma was the flavour of the month for hammerdins. Even in PvP you didn't NEED Enigma if you could find proper gear, or you were a sorc, barb, sin, and about 50% of the builds with the other classes.

Enigma was the poor mans good armor , the same way people ran around with BotD weapons when really they weren't that good people just liked running around with high hr requirement rune words even if there were much better things out there .

The big thing was that it was the flavour of the month so everyone wanted it driving up its price, really I would much rather have A LOT of other armors for my builds.


Nothing is worth what they used to be since they upped the Rune drop rate to the point where finding a high level rune like Cham isn't unlikely if you play through Hell.

Back when finding a Zod rune was cause for immense celebration because it was a 1 in like 40 million chance or some insane crap like that runewords were the post powerful thing in the game. The thing that made Enigma so damn good was the teleport it gave everyone.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 02 2010 21:11 GMT
#113
On July 03 2010 01:09 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 01:05 crms wrote:
On July 03 2010 00:48 Insanious wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 03 2010 00:02 myopia wrote:
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.


If you look at places like JSP Enigma is not worth a lot compared to a lot of other things. Ever try to find a perfect upped eth shaftstop? A perfect bramble? Perfect low str req high def dragon armor? All of which worth A LOT more then Enigma... its just enigma was the flavour of the month for hammerdins. Even in PvP you didn't NEED Enigma if you could find proper gear, or you were a sorc, barb, sin, and about 50% of the builds with the other classes.

Enigma was the poor mans good armor , the same way people ran around with BotD weapons when really they weren't that good people just liked running around with high hr requirement rune words even if there were much better things out there .

The big thing was that it was the flavour of the month so everyone wanted it driving up its price, really I would much rather have A LOT of other armors for my builds.



what would you recommend over a BotD, I've been playing a frenzy barb during sc2 beta downtime, and I plan on running Enigma + BotD. I know they are flavor of the month but what do you feel is better?


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3253/nicezerk9ix6xg5ai3ga.jpg

thats better than botd.. but probably the most valuable item in the game

anyway iv never made a frenzy barb but u can dual wield beast/botd (beast = fanat aura)
also check grief..



lotsa people used botds on bvcs, i didn't really like it though. on botd/beast you'd get like 1-5k damage and on grief/beast you would get like 4.2k-4.5k damage.

heh i also remember on d2pk some people would fill up zerker axes with ums to get the open wounds for when you go against es sorcs, it was pretty funny.
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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
July 02 2010 23:14 GMT
#114
On July 03 2010 06:11 Nitrogen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 01:09 Assault_1 wrote:
On July 03 2010 01:05 crms wrote:
On July 03 2010 00:48 Insanious wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 03 2010 00:02 myopia wrote:
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.


If you look at places like JSP Enigma is not worth a lot compared to a lot of other things. Ever try to find a perfect upped eth shaftstop? A perfect bramble? Perfect low str req high def dragon armor? All of which worth A LOT more then Enigma... its just enigma was the flavour of the month for hammerdins. Even in PvP you didn't NEED Enigma if you could find proper gear, or you were a sorc, barb, sin, and about 50% of the builds with the other classes.

Enigma was the poor mans good armor , the same way people ran around with BotD weapons when really they weren't that good people just liked running around with high hr requirement rune words even if there were much better things out there .

The big thing was that it was the flavour of the month so everyone wanted it driving up its price, really I would much rather have A LOT of other armors for my builds.



what would you recommend over a BotD, I've been playing a frenzy barb during sc2 beta downtime, and I plan on running Enigma + BotD. I know they are flavor of the month but what do you feel is better?


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3253/nicezerk9ix6xg5ai3ga.jpg

thats better than botd.. but probably the most valuable item in the game

anyway iv never made a frenzy barb but u can dual wield beast/botd (beast = fanat aura)
also check grief..



lotsa people used botds on bvcs, i didn't really like it though. on botd/beast you'd get like 1-5k damage and on grief/beast you would get like 4.2k-4.5k damage.

heh i also remember on d2pk some people would fill up zerker axes with ums to get the open wounds for when you go against es sorcs, it was pretty funny.


ya my BvC used grief/beast zerkers, highlord, enigma (obviously),

the rest I forget.. I think 1x raven and 1x 10fcr ring (for breakpoint), arreats face (or coa against barbs/wind druids), dracs gloves, weapon swap had some bow with guided arrow to help kill h-dins.. belt mustve been dungos or arachnids

anyway BvC's are also called frenzy barbs?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 02 2010 23:47 GMT
#115
Frenzy barbs iirc are just a barb whose primary attack is frenzy which is a very efficient fast boss killing build for PvM. some people use Frenzy barbs for BvC however.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-02 23:50:52
July 02 2010 23:50 GMT
#116
Also I thought the reason frenzy PvM barbs went botd over grief was for all the life leech which is extremely good since frenzy PvM is essentially kill fast as shit, leech or die.
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Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
July 03 2010 00:08 GMT
#117
On July 03 2010 00:48 Insanious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 00:02 myopia wrote:
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.


If you look at places like JSP Enigma is not worth a lot compared to a lot of other things. Ever try to find a perfect upped eth shaftstop? A perfect bramble? Perfect low str req high def dragon armor? All of which worth A LOT more then Enigma... its just enigma was the flavour of the month for hammerdins. Even in PvP you didn't NEED Enigma if you could find proper gear, or you were a sorc, barb, sin, and about 50% of the builds with the other classes.

Enigma was the poor mans good armor , the same way people ran around with BotD weapons when really they weren't that good people just liked running around with high hr requirement rune words even if there were much better things out there .

The big thing was that it was the flavour of the month so everyone wanted it driving up its price, really I would much rather have A LOT of other armors for my builds.


enigma is cheap because it was so good and every part of it is easily dupable and perm
eshaft has to be spawned and then rolled into a good armor
i had a 2422 eth shaft once and sold it as part of a zealer for $500
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
July 03 2010 00:31 GMT
#118
On July 03 2010 08:50 crms wrote:
Also I thought the reason frenzy PvM barbs went botd over grief was for all the life leech which is extremely good since frenzy PvM is essentially kill fast as shit, leech or die.


i thought were only talking pvp.. the best pvm is obviously h-din
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
July 03 2010 00:57 GMT
#119
On July 03 2010 09:31 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 08:50 crms wrote:
Also I thought the reason frenzy PvM barbs went botd over grief was for all the life leech which is extremely good since frenzy PvM is essentially kill fast as shit, leech or die.


i thought were only talking pvp.. the best pvm is obviously h-din


no anymore apparently
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 03 2010 06:22 GMT
#120
On July 03 2010 08:14 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 06:11 Nitrogen wrote:
On July 03 2010 01:09 Assault_1 wrote:
On July 03 2010 01:05 crms wrote:
On July 03 2010 00:48 Insanious wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 03 2010 00:02 myopia wrote:
Aye, Enigma's cool and all but it also completely ruined the game economy. Every piece of armor that isn't Enigma is worthless.


If you look at places like JSP Enigma is not worth a lot compared to a lot of other things. Ever try to find a perfect upped eth shaftstop? A perfect bramble? Perfect low str req high def dragon armor? All of which worth A LOT more then Enigma... its just enigma was the flavour of the month for hammerdins. Even in PvP you didn't NEED Enigma if you could find proper gear, or you were a sorc, barb, sin, and about 50% of the builds with the other classes.

Enigma was the poor mans good armor , the same way people ran around with BotD weapons when really they weren't that good people just liked running around with high hr requirement rune words even if there were much better things out there .

The big thing was that it was the flavour of the month so everyone wanted it driving up its price, really I would much rather have A LOT of other armors for my builds.



what would you recommend over a BotD, I've been playing a frenzy barb during sc2 beta downtime, and I plan on running Enigma + BotD. I know they are flavor of the month but what do you feel is better?


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3253/nicezerk9ix6xg5ai3ga.jpg

thats better than botd.. but probably the most valuable item in the game

anyway iv never made a frenzy barb but u can dual wield beast/botd (beast = fanat aura)
also check grief..



lotsa people used botds on bvcs, i didn't really like it though. on botd/beast you'd get like 1-5k damage and on grief/beast you would get like 4.2k-4.5k damage.

heh i also remember on d2pk some people would fill up zerker axes with ums to get the open wounds for when you go against es sorcs, it was pretty funny.


ya my BvC used grief/beast zerkers, highlord, enigma (obviously),

the rest I forget.. I think 1x raven and 1x 10fcr ring (for breakpoint), arreats face (or coa against barbs/wind druids), dracs gloves, weapon swap had some bow with guided arrow to help kill h-dins.. belt mustve been dungos or arachnids

anyway BvC's are also called frenzy barbs?


yeah like the other guy said, frenzy barbs use frenzy as an attack whereas bvcs use www/zerk

oh man i miss chain zerking. i really wanna play d2 right now.
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