EPTI'll most likely role a barb at this point. I'm so freakin excited for d3 and the subsequent expansions.
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crms
United States11933 Posts
I'll most likely role a barb at this point. I'm so freakin excited for d3 and the subsequent expansions. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On May 15 2011 03:02 d(O.o)a wrote: Than do not try to talk down people who DO notice and enjoy graphics in their games. Guess what, different people look for different things in video games. I played a lot of WoW still do occasionally but I still don't like the WoW-style graphics being implemented to Diablo 3 because they're different games I play diablo to play diablo with its dark and gloomy atmosphere, not to play WoW as a hack and slash. I just noticed a bunch of people band wagon-ing onto the WoW hatred for whatever reason. You have a legitimate reason so I wasn't talking to you. I'm still not seeing how the Templar looking like it belongs in the WoW universe is a bad thing. How is a Templar supposed to look exactly? Like my first sentence says, "I don't think blizzard could get away with the Gothic levels they put into the first and second games." Especially the original game where there's images like the prince's dead body sacrificed on the table or just the artwork of the level design. There are people like you who don't care for such things, but I take it you're still going to buy the game? Other people might not buy if the graphics look like previous games. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 15 2011 06:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Other people might not buy if the graphics look like previous games. and the reason for that assumption is? d2 sold like crazy even years after its release. there is a HUGE fanbase out .and since when does more gore mean less sells? there are tons of games that sell purely on gore. show me even ONE person out of the millions that playd diablo games that said " uuhh the game is nice but its to dark ! im not gonna play it!". | ||
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blubshizzle
Netherlands34 Posts
What i do hope is that, as the game progresses that it gets "darker", give you the feeling that you are really playing in hell. Maybe this will not in the first release but through the expansions.. I might be in the minority but i actually like the followers system. When you are playing solo there is still this co-op feeling. And they leave when you are with multiple players in one game. Stupid me but i like the choices thus far made for Diablo III. Ive played d2 a lot and the time i remember i had the most enjoyable time playing it was when it was just released and i was just playing through the whole game. And i was so happy finding Death's Hand in act1. This feeling was the best. Dont take me wrong i think trading is a great tool to get the items you want. But i actually liked just playing the game and use whatever you find. | ||
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iPBioOrMech
Turkey297 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On May 15 2011 06:30 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: and the reason for that assumption is? d2 sold like crazy even years after its release. there is a HUGE fanbase out .and since when does more gore mean less sells? there are tons of games that sell purely on gore. show me even ONE person out of the millions that playd diablo games that said " uuhh the game is nice but its to dark ! im not gonna play it!". There's a lot more to marketing than bringing over fans from the previous installment. My entire point was that people who don't want their children playing the violent gothic gorefest that was diablo 1 and to a lesser extent diablo 2 might let them play diablo 3 since it won't be as bad. I don't doubt that people who have been playing blizzard games since they started making them will have any hesitation in buying their newest game. When I was a kid my parents wouldn't let me play M rated games. Luckily, my dad really enjoys diablo so I got the opportunity to play it anyways. On May 15 2011 05:21 iCanada wrote: Yeah no kidding. Not to mention, it is fairly obvious that they are only really revealing the starting areas. Seeing how the basic story is "the world has been friggen swell for thirty years, and now hell is coming back..." would it not make sense for the world to slowly degrade into that state of total chaos? You guys forget that when your hero in the first games get there, this nonsense had been going on for a significant period of time. In Diablo 1, the village already decided it was chaos enough to create a militia and get themselves slaughtered in the catacombs. In Diablo 2, all of the first act was already deeply encapsulated within demonic control, the Rogue's had pretty well lost by the time you got there. When Diablo 3 starts, things aren't quite so hell trauden.... hell look at the reveal trailer ffs. "The world has been cleaned of that blight for twenty years... the shadows of darkness once again begins crawling the lands... the stench of death and despair coming forth through bitter winds. People pray for strength and guidance, but they should pray for a swift death. I know what is coming, I have seen what the darkness hides." I think this reason is far more likely though. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 15 2011 06:42 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: There's a lot more to marketing than bringing over fans from the previous installment. My entire point was that people who don't want their children playing the violent gothic gorefest that was diablo 1 and to a lesser extent diablo 2 might let them play diablo 3 since it won't be as bad. I don't doubt that people who have been playing blizzard games since they started making them will have any hesitation in buying their newest game. When I was a kid my parents wouldn't let me play M rated games. Luckily, my dad really enjoys diablo so I got the opportunity to play it anyways. as if that is a big deal. most of the CoD/assasins creed whateve rplayers are 15 year old kids. and pretty much no matter what diablo does it wont be as violent as those just from the perspective alone. not to mention most countries and esp your country are very lax on violence in videogames. if anything a darker more gory style will attract way more of those kids then some random cartoon style. also d3 doesnt need much marketing anyways. its freakin d3 done by blizzard. the hype from the press alone will hammer the game into peoples heads. | ||
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
i used to get scared when i had to get in the church of D2 act 1.. the environment made you fell "shit just got real" also .. i was younger  | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4781 Posts
On May 15 2011 07:06 Carras wrote: i hope its scary =) i used to get scared when i had to get in the church of D2 act 1.. the environment made you fell "shit just got real" also .. i was younger Nothing will EVER compete with "Ahhh fresh meat"... | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
Blizzard games are always awesome, D2 was insanely good and D3 will be as well. Feel free to cry about how horrible the game is when you've actually gotten to play it instead of theorycrafting how terrible it is ahead of time. You have quite a treasure in that Horadric cube. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On May 15 2011 07:16 absalom86 wrote: Here we go again... Remember when we had the exact same cries of " this game will suck because of the art style " for WC3, then WoW and then Sc2 ? Threatening to not buy the game and declaring it will suck because of the art style is really quite ... strange and I doubt any of you will not play it. Blizzard games are always awesome, D2 was insanely good and D3 will be as well. Feel free to cry about how horrible the game is when you've actually gotten to play it instead of theorycrafting how terrible it is ahead of time. You have quite a treasure in that Horadric cube. have you even read the thread? People aren't saying the game play will suck because of this, we're saying the atmosphere is being ruined. Warcraft and Starcraft aren't about the atmosphere as much as Diablo is, please don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On May 15 2011 07:20 d(O.o)a wrote: have you even read the thread? People aren't saying the game play will suck because of this, we're saying the atmosphere is being ruined. Warcraft and Starcraft aren't about the atmosphere as much as Diablo is, please don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about. Oh please... Starcraft atmosphere and Warcraft 3 atmosphere was being ruined as well months / years back... I have 20 characters on hardcore ladder over lvl 80 and I'm waiting for D3 now as excited as I could ever be. The art style looks great in my opinion, the " cartoony " look makes it more friendly to low spec computers which brings us more players and more life in the community. | ||
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gosublade
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delHospital
Poland261 Posts
On May 15 2011 06:30 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: and the reason for that assumption is? d2 sold like crazy even years after its release. there is a HUGE fanbase out .and since when does more gore mean less sells? there are tons of games that sell purely on gore. show me even ONE person out of the millions that playd diablo games that said " uuhh the game is nice but its to dark ! im not gonna play it!". I wouldn't say that D2 was dark/gloomy/w/e. Especially compared to D1. The first two acts aren't scary in the slightest (especially the 2nd is super-bright), and the third one seems scary only because of spiders and maggots. But even if we ignore that and look only at the darker parts of the game, to me it is still very cartoony compared to D1 and then there's also the music and the sound effects. In D1 they build an atmosphere of grim and mystery, while in D2 they build up tension and give the hack n slash feel. Maybe kinda like the Resident Evil series -- they went from horror games to action shooters. I personally like the D3 graphics I've seen so far -- to me it looks like it's the best of both worlds (not so far from the D2 feel?). On May 15 2011 07:13 Ghostcom wrote: Nothing will EVER compete with "Ahhh fresh meat"... Haha, exactly :D | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On May 15 2011 07:28 delHospital wrote: I wouldn't say that D2 was dark/gloomy/w/e. Especially compared to D1. The first two acts aren't scary in the slightest (especially the 2nd is super-bright), and the third one seems scary only because of spiders and maggots. But even if we ignore that and look only at the darker parts of the game, to me it is still very cartoony compared to D1 and then there's also the music and the sound effects. In D1 they build an atmosphere of grim and mystery, while in D2 they build up tension and give the hack n slash feel. Maybe kinda like the Resident Evil series -- they went from horror games to action shooters. I personally like the D3 graphics I've seen so far -- to me it looks like it's the best of both worlds (not so far from the D2 feel?). I agree with this. D2 wasn't nearly as gloomy and dark as D1. It was a lot more focused on action and gameplay rather than making you scared or anything like that. I have always loved the Diablo lore and I hope they bring some awesome story lines out for this game. If you guys haven't yet, you should definately go read about the world of Sanctuary... About the Nephalem and the making of the plane of Sanctuary as well as why the war for it started in the first place. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 15 2011 07:28 delHospital wrote: I wouldn't say that D2 was dark/gloomy/w/e. Especially compared to D1. The first two acts aren't scary in the slightest (especially the 2nd is super-bright), and the third one seems scary only because of spiders and maggots. But even if we ignore that and look only at the darker parts of the game, to me it is still very cartoony compared to D1 and then there's also the music and the sound effects. In D1 they build an atmosphere of grim and mystery, while in D2 they build up tension and give the hack n slash feel. Maybe kinda like the Resident Evil series -- they went from horror games to action shooters. I personally like the D3 graphics I've seen so far -- to me it looks like it's the best of both worlds (not so far from the D2 feel?). yeah act2 was very bright and had little feel to it for the most part. but thats why evryone hated act2 (act3 was only hated cause of the super annoying little buggers). act1 was very dark from the very start and only got more serious as you progressed. and the "hacknslash" feel you talk about fit diablo very well and felt good cause you massacred your way trhough hordes of monsters that did just the same to the rest of the human population you see. D1 ofcourse was even darker but you spent the whole game in a dungeon. dungeons naturally are darker then running around in the "open" world. D3 looks like it totally breaks with the dark&gritty nature of d1&2. maybe the guy saying it will get darker as the game goes on is right but with the basic cartoonish style i doubt they can capture the feel of the d1/2 world even remotly. also yes call it wow hate or whatever but i dont want anything in my diablo that even remotly resembles wow. and a shiny super shoulder gay paladin is as bad as it gets when it comes to wow artstyle. (i playd wow for 2 years and mostly enjoyd it. but gtfo of my diablo) thats just how i and tons of others feel. just like we starcraft players dont want any stuff at all from wc3 in our game or cs players dont want any of the CoD stuff in their game. that is a very normal feeling and if a developer changes the basic looks of their franchise so much that fans get pissed then its not fault of the fans but the fault of the developer for not staying true to the original games. just look at the new max payne and the OUTRAGE that happened just from the first 2 pictures they released back then. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On May 15 2011 07:36 absalom86 wrote: I agree with this. D2 wasn't nearly as gloomy and dark as D1. It was a lot more focused on action and gameplay rather than making you scared or anything like that. I have always loved the Diablo lore and I hope they bring some awesome story lines out for this game. If you guys haven't yet, you should definately go read about the world of Sanctuary... About the Nephalem and the making of the plane of Sanctuary as well as why the war for it started in the first place. I disagree with diablo being intended to scare people and D2 not having that, I was never scared playing either of the games, I simply noticed the cool gruesomeness of the impaled corpses and other stuff, there were lines like that in D2 such as the Countess' "YOUR BLOOD WILL BOIL *creepy laugh*" or the smith's "I will make weapons from your bones" I personally enjoyed the environment of D2 more, that's just my opinion and I am not going to say you're wrong for thinking D1 was darker. However from the things we've seen of D3 it's even LESS dark than the so called less dark D2, I don't know why people are defending that while complaining about D2 being less dark than D1. | ||
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gosublade
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InsaniaK
Sweden120 Posts
A little concerned about the graphics but hopefully we've only seen the most colourful places so far. Also: "...And so it came to pass that the Countess, who once bathed in the rejuvenating blood of a hundred virgins, was buried alive... And her castle in which so many cruel deeds took place fell rapidly into ruin. Rising over the buried dungeons in that god-forsaken wilderness, a solitary tower, like some monument to Evil, is all that remains. The Countess' fortune was believed to be divided among the clergy, although some say that more remains unfound, still buried alongside the rotting skulls that bear mute witness to the inhumanity of the human creature." Let's hope for more stuff like this=) | ||
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CROrens
Croatia1005 Posts
BTW if you wana play a dark game go check out amnesia, its epic | ||
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