lol. Knockback+Plague elite pack. Stupidest thing ever. They'd get close, throw down an AOE, and then knock me back, well away from it if I hadn't already vaulted clear.

I know we've all got those "oh god run" packs we've seen, but anyone else run into combinations that feel like free loots?

Heh_

Singapore2712 Posts

May 17 2012 19:53 GMT

#8582

On May 18 2012 04:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:

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On May 18 2012 04:45 DDie wrote:

On May 18 2012 04:38 Heh_ wrote:

On May 18 2012 04:34 DDie wrote:

On May 18 2012 04:13 Heh_ wrote:

On May 18 2012 04:03 DDie wrote:

On May 18 2012 03:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:

On May 18 2012 03:51 DDie wrote:

On May 18 2012 03:46 ThaZenith wrote:

On May 18 2012 03:26 DDie wrote:
I have to say i'm pretty dissappointed with the game so far.

Playing act 3 hell right now, this game does't just look like wow, it doesn't just have sounds recycled from wow... it also PLAYS like wow, you need wizards to do dps, wd/dh for some CC, and barb/monk to tank the mobs, the bosses take FOREVER to kill and drop crap every single time.

This is nothing like the diablo i knew.

And i'm not even going to comment on the stupid boss mechanic, straight up from... you guessed it, WoW.

Oh my, you've compared D3 to WoW. That's, like, totally never been done before!! U so smart!

Btw, bosses aren't meant to farm for drops, they said that people doing 3 min boss runs was lame, so they made the actual game better for drops than bosses. (ofc this might change with nephalem valor being in the equation, but you'd still not be doing straight up boss runs)

Prove me wrong, show me that the gameplay is actually different from WoW dps/tank formula. You can't, can you?

What other formula is there? I like the whole killing thing. It's why action RPG exist.

That's my point... in diablo 2, regardless of your class, you did the killing thing, in D3 if you don't have a dps (wizards) and tanks (barb/monk) you die.

Surely, things may change when people get godly gear and optimal builds, time will tell.

Duh. If you have the ability to customize, you'd have to either choose dps or survivability. If you can choose both, then welcome to D2 where everybody and their grandmother had the same build. I repeat: you have the ability to customize. If you hate customization so much go play FFVII.

Btw classes are not set in stone. The way stats are based on gear, you can easily have a tank wizard. The devs were boasting about this.

What's the difference? A tank wizard would be.. uhhhh... a tank!

It doesn't matter what role each class plays... so far you need someone to tank, you need someone to dps, and someone to CC, Blizzard might as well add a healer class.

Did you even read my first paragraph?

UUhhhh, yes? The thing is, the game is not giving you an option, the game is saying ''hey, some of you NEED to choose survivability (aka: TANK), so the dps can do their shit, if you don't you all die''.

Also, it's a matter time till it's D2 all over again, people will just stick to the optmial builds, and when the new cookie-cutter is discovered they will just switch.

Everyone chose tank in D2 as well. You just built pure vitality/dex block cap so everyone is a tank with no repercussions to your damage. It just happens in D3 that there is a trade off between tank and damage.

This is poor game design according to most people. You seem to hold a differing opinion though that people should be able to faceroll through everything.

Yeah, dps builds don't work very well. Was watching an inferno act 3 stream, the party got 1-shot triple killed by a single non-elite mob. That includes the barbarian, aka "tank". You could say that their gear is insufficient, but then the dps will still get 1-shotted regardless.

antelope591

Canada820 Posts

May 17 2012 20:05 GMT

#8583

Jesus...hell champion packs are fkn brutal. The game is already harder than d2 on hell mode I can't imagine inferno...whoever beats hardcore inferno first is a god of gaming unless they nerf it.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

May 17 2012 20:06 GMT

#8584

On May 18 2012 04:52 JingleHell wrote:
lol. Knockback+Plague elite pack. Stupidest thing ever. They'd get close, throw down an AOE, and then knock me back, well away from it if I hadn't already vaulted clear.

I know we've all got those "oh god run" packs we've seen, but anyone else run into combinations that feel like free loots?

Knockback in general is easy mode. Unless you run past the enemy they just knock you back to safety over and over again. I guess it'd be annoying at least as a melee, but as a ranged hero it is quite helpful oftentimes.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States46716 Posts

May 17 2012 20:09 GMT

#8585

Has Inferno difficulty officially been beaten yet?

Catchafire2000

United States227 Posts

May 17 2012 20:11 GMT

#8586

Inferno has been beaten loooong ago... Players basically ran past the mobs and only fought bosses required to move on.

eluv

United States1251 Posts

May 17 2012 20:15 GMT

#8587

On May 18 2012 05:11 Catchafire2000 wrote:
Inferno has been beaten loooong ago... Players basically ran past the mobs and only fought bosses required to move on.

This is false. Method is doing what you're saying, but they're still in Act 2 nonetheless.

ThaZenith

Canada3116 Posts

May 17 2012 20:16 GMT

#8588

On May 18 2012 05:11 Catchafire2000 wrote:
Inferno has been beaten loooong ago... Players basically ran past the mobs and only fought bosses required to move on.

Lol, why don't you source that statement?

Because the farthest I've seen is Act 3, and they went back to act 1 to farm because they couldn't kill anything at all.

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

May 17 2012 20:17 GMT

#8589

Is it true people have killed Inferno Act 1 boss?

Shifft

Canada1085 Posts

May 17 2012 20:21 GMT

#8590

On May 18 2012 05:11 Catchafire2000 wrote:
Inferno has been beaten loooong ago... Players basically ran past the mobs and only fought bosses required to move on.

Farthest stream that's been going is middle of act 3, so do you have a source for this?

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

May 17 2012 20:40 GMT

#8591

Just found out about elective option. >:O why is this not normally on?

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

May 17 2012 20:44 GMT

#8592

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

May 17 2012 20:53 GMT

#8593

If only one of those had wall or jail.

Marradron

Netherlands1586 Posts

May 17 2012 20:53 GMT

#8594

On May 18 2012 05:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Is it true people have killed Inferno Act 1 boss?

Ive done it myself as DH solo. But method group is atm at act 3. But theyre just abusing teleporting to corpses and running 10 yards before dieing again

Shifft

Canada1085 Posts

May 17 2012 20:59 GMT

#8595

On May 18 2012 05:53 Marradron wrote:

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Ive done it myself as DH solo. But method group is atm at act 3. But theyre just abusing teleporting to corpses and running 10 yards before dieing again

I really don't understand this at all, like...they're most likely not going to be able to kill Diablo with their current gear, so they're wasting all this time suiciding through trash that they're going to have to come back and farm later anyways? Why not just kill it now?

Seldentar

United States888 Posts

May 17 2012 20:59 GMT

#8596

On May 18 2012 05:11 Catchafire2000 wrote:
Inferno has been beaten loooong ago... Players basically ran past the mobs and only fought bosses required to move on.

looooong ago? The game has only been out 2 days rofl

Quotidian

Norway1937 Posts

May 17 2012 21:02 GMT

#8597

On May 18 2012 03:51 DDie wrote:

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Prove me wrong, show me that the gameplay is actually different from WoW dps/tank formula. You can't, can you?

I was never really able to solo end-of-dungeon bosses with my Warlock in WOW -.-

mordek

United States12705 Posts

May 17 2012 21:04 GMT

#8598

Hard to get immersed in the game when there's lag spikes and drops left and right. I don't want to be that guy, but it's turned my convenient day off a few days after release into hours of disappointment

Cokefreak

Finland8096 Posts

May 17 2012 21:11 GMT

#8599

On May 18 2012 06:04 mordek wrote:
Hard to get immersed in the game when there's lag spikes and drops left and right. I don't want to be that guy, but it's turned my convenient day off a few days after release into hours of disappointment

You actually expected there to be no lag or random disconnect during the first days when everyone and their mother is playing?

dAPhREAk

Nauru12397 Posts

May 17 2012 21:14 GMT

#8600

so, what skills should i be using on my wizard at level 26? is there a website discussing builds for the various char classes. my google search has turned up crap so far.