Diablo III General Discussion - Page 267

On August 31 2011 16:08 NoobSkills wrote:
Anyone else feel like this game can't live up to the hype?
I sure hope it does, but I don't see how it will.

Also as a side note I hate every game company now.
Releasing a semi-complete game, so they can sell "end game" material or an expansion is bullshit. I don't mind an expansion if you see what else you can add after a game has been released (new PvP, class, uniques, territories). All of those things are fine, but doing it just so you can charge another overpriced $60 for a rush job aggravates me especially for a RPG like this one.

On August 31 2011 16:08 NoobSkills wrote:
Anyone else feel like this game can't live up to the hype?
I sure hope it does, but I don't see how it will.

Also as a side note I hate every game company now.
Releasing a semi-complete game, so they can sell "end game" material or an expansion is bullshit. I don't mind an expansion if you see what else you can add after a game has been released (new PvP, class, uniques, territories). All of those things are fine, but doing it just so you can charge another overpriced $60 for a rush job aggravates me especially for a RPG like this one.

On August 31 2011 17:12 bgx wrote:
locations are dark, but spells are so bright and wowish , and i wish they would bring more D2-like armor sets, oh well we will see.

On August 31 2011 06:29 Klaca wrote:

Uhh guess again. LoD is a joke, getting lvl 99 is easy..

In Classic, you need 50 000 diablo runs for lvl 99. And guess what, last ladder one guy did it. Yes, 50 000 diablo runs.

On August 31 2011 05:59 Goldfish wrote:
In Diablo 2 someone did the math to level from 90 to 99 (it's on the diablo wiki here)

Start Level 	End Level 	Baal Runs 	Total Baal Runs 	 % Complete
90 	91 	20 	20 	0.36%
91 	92 	30 	50 	0.90%
92 	93 	45 	90 	1.63%
93 	94 	60 	155 	2.61%
94 	95 	110 	265 	4.8%
95 	96 	210 	475 	8.6%
96 	97 	450 	925 	16.7%
97 	98 	1100 	2025 	36.6%
98 	99 	3500 	5525 	100% 

So it takes 5525 Baal runs to go from level 90 to 99. That's 184 hours of non stop baal running (if each baal run took 2 minutes max[in reality it takes a bit longer]).

Also someone did the math and apparently getting the Runes required to form Enigma (before 1.13 where they significantly increased the drop rates) took 5+ years of MFing (I forgot how many hours of MFing every day).

Makes nearly every single MMO look like a joke in terms of grind factor.

But yeah I kind of see why they wanted to keep the cap at 60. IMO getting items is more fun than trying to level up in Diablo 2. At least with items it grants variety.

(Also they're planning on increasing the level cap with each expansion like WoW).

On August 31 2011 18:52 Butcherski wrote:
I played d2 for about 2 years and found 2 ber 1 Lo and one sur rune. Along with a few ists/guls obviously since those were pretty common from the act4 quest.

I dont really like that the level cap will be so easy to reach ( im 99% sure they stated in one of those interviews that they expect everybody to hit lvl 60 so it cant be that hard ) since it was always another thing to excel at in d2.

Thank god the end of 2011 is so stacked with good games or the wait would be unbearable Fingers crossed for 2nd september beta !!!

On August 31 2011 21:45 iCanada wrote:


I don't mind it. It was actually super easy to hit the level cap in Diablo 1 compared to Diablo 2. As a Hardcore player, having to run antihack in order to not get TPPK'd in every public game, I'd go play the original diablo every time the warden would sweep through and ban everyone.

Without all the duped gear, you could easily hit 50 within a month, with duped gear maybe five days... assuming you are playing with access to hell difficulty (meaning, on battle.net or with Hellfire installed) of course. The Arch Angels Staff of the Apocalypse, Obsidian Ring of the Zodiac's, and other frequently duped items really broke that game and made it super super easy.

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On September 01 2011 00:47 DaCruise wrote:


No one forced you to use those items. As a legit player I was no where near hitting lvl 50.
I actually found a kings sword of haste once that was also duped to oblivion. Unfortunatly it was in singleplayer and it was only a falchion and not a bastard sword.

On August 31 2011 06:19 Velr wrote:



Your level, except getting an "early" 99 for your epeen didn't matter anyway.

Most chars good for MF'ing were like "outskilled" at lvl 70, every skill on top was "nice" but not needed at all. It was more important to get certain key Items which allowed you to do certain stuff "easyer/faster" (be it due to enough fast cast or whatever).

Ive found basically everythign there was to find in D2 (except runes) and well, none of my chars ever reached level 90i... I normally started MF'ing at lvl 70... And played a Summoner just for fun (i just cleared the whole throne most of the time, or ported via naj's staff (?) to baal).
The only real diffrence between lvl ~70 to like 88 were i stopped:
My Merc got better/baal died faster due to this... Well... That was it, all else came from items, instead of reloading when everything was full of souls i would just change the gear for max Lightningres...

Levels were really not that important for the "common" charbuilds...

But i still wonder how a Skelleton-Poisonnova-Necro would do :p... Which needs like lvl 99 to get all synergies and everything he NEEDS up (and i think you would still have missed the AI curses).

On September 01 2011 02:58 a176 wrote:


the worst and most fundamental flaw with d2.

combining the fact you need to mf on hell to get high item levels, and mf takes away from much needed other stats to survive hell on 8player games ... and that mf in itself had a diminishing curve after about 300% mf. it was just a pointless endeavor. why design the game with all these items when most people will never see them drop?

ps, i think the maths was something like 1 zod for every 1,000,000 rune drops?

On September 01 2011 04:16 andrewlt wrote:



I agree with MF. It destroyed the dynamic of D2. Part of the appeal of these games was in getting new items to make your character more powerful so you can kill stuff faster and can get even more powerful items faster. MF destroyed that dynamic. I found myself shelving "more powerful" items because those upgrades didn't have MF. The only ones I used were ones with higher MF.

On September 01 2011 04:27 Kennigit wrote:
Rich and I got D3 beta keys this weekend because of blizzcon :3 . No date on when it starts etc - i assume before blizzcon though.

On September 01 2011 04:27 Kennigit wrote:
Rich and I got D3 beta keys this weekend because of blizzcon :3 . No date on when it starts etc - i assume before blizzcon though.