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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 31 2011 19:39 GMT
#5341
On September 01 2011 04:27 Kennigit wrote:
Rich and I got D3 beta keys this weekend because of blizzcon :3 . No date on when it starts etc - i assume before blizzcon though.


Will there be a 'Hotbid attempts D3' livestream?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
August 31 2011 19:41 GMT
#5342
On September 01 2011 04:22 trainRiderJ wrote:
There are still unique items but as far as I know there is a push to make rares and crafted items more relevant, as they were in D2C. Only time will tell.

I heard this too and I hope they stay true to that. It was much more fun in D2C when it was almost always possible to find a better item than the one you had. When the best possible item is a unique item then once you get it there is no longer any way to improve. Unique items should be like high level rares but the very best items should always be rares.
darksub
Profile Joined July 2010
Argentina302 Posts
August 31 2011 19:46 GMT
#5343
On September 01 2011 04:27 Kennigit wrote:
Rich and I got D3 beta keys this weekend because of blizzcon :3 . No date on when it starts etc - i assume before blizzcon though.


i hate you a little right now
divide et vinces
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 31 2011 19:47 GMT
#5344
On September 01 2011 04:41 DrainX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 04:22 trainRiderJ wrote:
There are still unique items but as far as I know there is a push to make rares and crafted items more relevant, as they were in D2C. Only time will tell.

I heard this too and I hope they stay true to that. It was much more fun in D2C when it was almost always possible to find a better item than the one you had. When the best possible item is a unique item then once you get it there is no longer any way to improve. Unique items should be like high level rares but the very best items should always be rares.

Some of the best items are the rares.
Only uniques could spawn +all skills which made items like Shako very valuable to anyone.

I think the most valuable in D2 are still rares: rings, circlets (+skills, stats, res), or weapons (eth, fools, ias, self rep, 2 sockets).
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 31 2011 20:00 GMT
#5345
On September 01 2011 04:35 JustTray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 04:27 Kennigit wrote:
Rich and I got D3 beta keys this weekend because of blizzcon :3 . No date on when it starts etc - i assume before blizzcon though.



Wow really? From blizzcon last year right?

No, we get a press pass and regular ticket from blizzard each year and one of us goes to a community summit so they sent out an invite to both. All the other sites got them too - theres no NDA either, so i assume everyone will get in at the same time .
Mutarisk
Profile Joined July 2010
United States153 Posts
August 31 2011 20:05 GMT
#5346
On September 01 2011 05:00 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 04:35 JustTray wrote:
On September 01 2011 04:27 Kennigit wrote:
Rich and I got D3 beta keys this weekend because of blizzcon :3 . No date on when it starts etc - i assume before blizzcon though.



Wow really? From blizzcon last year right?

No, we get a press pass and regular ticket from blizzard each year and one of us goes to a community summit so they sent out an invite to both. All the other sites got them too - theres no NDA either, so i assume everyone will get in at the same time .



Um, for clarification... the beta invite you and Rich received... was it one of the 1,000 for attending Blizzcon or was it a Press beta invite?
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
August 31 2011 21:28 GMT
#5347
On September 01 2011 04:27 Kennigit wrote:
Rich and I got D3 beta keys this weekend because of blizzcon :3 . No date on when it starts etc - i assume before blizzcon though.


You know what to do, go on.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 31 2011 21:32 GMT
#5348
Blizzcon is at the end of october right? I hope we can start the beta by mid September :D
Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 21:50:34
August 31 2011 21:44 GMT
#5349
On September 01 2011 05:00 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 04:35 JustTray wrote:
On September 01 2011 04:27 Kennigit wrote:
Rich and I got D3 beta keys this weekend because of blizzcon :3 . No date on when it starts etc - i assume before blizzcon though.



Wow really? From blizzcon last year right?

No, we get a press pass and regular ticket from blizzard each year and one of us goes to a community summit so they sent out an invite to both. All the other sites got them too - theres no NDA either, so i assume everyone will get in at the same time .


You guys have any plans to stream some gameplay? Or anything of the sorts? Also , what classes are you both looking forward to the most?
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
cyclonous
Profile Joined May 2011
United States55 Posts
August 31 2011 22:34 GMT
#5350
Question for any of you who have pre-ordered, where do you recommend pre-ordering from to receive the game the day it comes out? (not really looking to sit at gamestop at midnight).
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 31 2011 23:57 GMT
#5351
On September 01 2011 04:16 andrewlt wrote:
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On September 01 2011 02:58 a176 wrote:
On August 31 2011 06:19 Velr wrote:
On August 31 2011 05:59 Goldfish wrote:
In Diablo 2 someone did the math to level from 90 to 99 (it's on the diablo wiki here)

Start Level End Level Baal Runs Total Baal Runs % Complete
90 91 20 20 0.36%
91 92 30 50 0.90%
92 93 45 90 1.63%
93 94 60 155 2.61%
94 95 110 265 4.8%
95 96 210 475 8.6%
96 97 450 925 16.7%
97 98 1100 2025 36.6%
98 99 3500 5525 100%


So it takes 5525 Baal runs to go from level 90 to 99. That's 184 hours of non stop baal running (if each baal run took 2 minutes max[in reality it takes a bit longer]).

Also someone did the math and apparently getting the Runes required to form Enigma (before 1.13 where they significantly increased the drop rates) took 5+ years of MFing (I forgot how many hours of MFing every day).

Makes nearly every single MMO look like a joke in terms of grind factor.

But yeah I kind of see why they wanted to keep the cap at 60. IMO getting items is more fun than trying to level up in Diablo 2. At least with items it grants variety.

(Also they're planning on increasing the level cap with each expansion like WoW).



Your level, except getting an "early" 99 for your epeen didn't matter anyway.

Most chars good for MF'ing were like "outskilled" at lvl 70, every skill on top was "nice" but not needed at all. It was more important to get certain key Items which allowed you to do certain stuff "easyer/faster" (be it due to enough fast cast or whatever).

Ive found basically everythign there was to find in D2 (except runes) and well, none of my chars ever reached level 90i... I normally started MF'ing at lvl 70... And played a Summoner just for fun (i just cleared the whole throne most of the time, or ported via naj's staff (?) to baal).
The only real diffrence between lvl ~70 to like 88 were i stopped:
My Merc got better/baal died faster due to this... Well... That was it, all else came from items, instead of reloading when everything was full of souls i would just change the gear for max Lightningres...

Levels were really not that important for the "common" charbuilds...

But i still wonder how a Skelleton-Poisonnova-Necro would do :p... Which needs like lvl 99 to get all synergies and everything he NEEDS up (and i think you would still have missed the AI curses).


the worst and most fundamental flaw with d2.

combining the fact you need to mf on hell to get high item levels, and mf takes away from much needed other stats to survive hell on 8player games ... and that mf in itself had a diminishing curve after about 300% mf. it was just a pointless endeavor. why design the game with all these items when most people will never see them drop?

ps, i think the maths was something like 1 zod for every 1,000,000 rune drops?



I agree with MF. It destroyed the dynamic of D2. Part of the appeal of these games was in getting new items to make your character more powerful so you can kill stuff faster and can get even more powerful items faster. MF destroyed that dynamic. I found myself shelving "more powerful" items because those upgrades didn't have MF. The only ones I used were ones with higher MF.




I liked it to a degree. It added depth. It basically forced you to have more than 1 character to be successful. The way I see it, I wasn't gimping my character for MF.. I was MAKING a character for MF, that would farm allday for very powerful items for my other characters. You have your one MF bitch then you make whatever else you want to be the powerhouse.

I had a MF sorc that would feed my zon/barb for pvp.
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 01 2011 00:18 GMT
#5352
On September 01 2011 07:34 cyclonous wrote:
Question for any of you who have pre-ordered, where do you recommend pre-ordering from to receive the game the day it comes out? (not really looking to sit at gamestop at midnight).


the stores usually honor preoders based on when you preordered ... the earlier the better.

of course, you can always buy online from blizzard's store (see sc2 launch)
starleague forever
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 01 2011 00:20 GMT
#5353
ESL got a few beta keys.

Rotterdam and I will be streaming some of it (pending the Blizzard approval, which I fully expect to come through) as soon as the beta starts.
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
September 01 2011 00:47 GMT
#5354
On September 01 2011 09:20 MrBitter wrote:
ESL got a few beta keys.

Rotterdam and I will be streaming some of it (pending the Blizzard approval, which I fully expect to come through) as soon as the beta starts.


Awesome, will be watching that.
Love is more fun than hate.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12010 Posts
September 01 2011 01:42 GMT
#5355
On September 01 2011 07:34 cyclonous wrote:
Question for any of you who have pre-ordered, where do you recommend pre-ordering from to receive the game the day it comes out? (not really looking to sit at gamestop at midnight).


So far, i have had good experiences with amazon, preordered stuff usually arrived the day the game was released. Also it takes care of my natural lazyness by sending stuff to me instead of having to go get it. Sadly, at least if you are from Europe you can't buy directly from Blizzard unless you want to get ripped of majorly because they use that ridiculous 1$=1€ conversion, which means that Blizzard games are way more expensive when buying them directly from Blizzard when compared to anywhere else.
Medzo
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States627 Posts
September 01 2011 03:22 GMT
#5356
On September 01 2011 07:34 cyclonous wrote:
Question for any of you who have pre-ordered, where do you recommend pre-ordering from to receive the game the day it comes out? (not really looking to sit at gamestop at midnight).

www.Battle.net might let you digitally purchase it and even download it before it is released so you can log on at 12:01am pst. No confirmation but its how they've done WoW and sc2.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
September 01 2011 03:48 GMT
#5357
On September 01 2011 07:34 cyclonous wrote:
Question for any of you who have pre-ordered, where do you recommend pre-ordering from to receive the game the day it comes out? (not really looking to sit at gamestop at midnight).

Amazon is good that's where I pre-ordered sc2 and I received it something like 2-3 days before the servers were up
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cyclonous
Profile Joined May 2011
United States55 Posts
September 01 2011 04:31 GMT
#5358
^Thanks for the input everyone just bought this bad boy off Amazon, as if I wasn't already waiting...
BootySmakaRaX
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan82 Posts
September 01 2011 05:05 GMT
#5359
I hope theres a beta key in the swag bags!
RELEASE THE GRACKEN
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 01 2011 08:05 GMT
#5360
On September 01 2011 00:47 DaCruise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 21:45 iCanada wrote:
On August 31 2011 18:52 Butcherski wrote:
I played d2 for about 2 years and found 2 ber 1 Lo and one sur rune. Along with a few ists/guls obviously since those were pretty common from the act4 quest.

I dont really like that the level cap will be so easy to reach ( im 99% sure they stated in one of those interviews that they expect everybody to hit lvl 60 so it cant be that hard ) since it was always another thing to excel at in d2.

Thank god the end of 2011 is so stacked with good games or the wait would be unbearable Fingers crossed for 2nd september beta !!!


I don't mind it. It was actually super easy to hit the level cap in Diablo 1 compared to Diablo 2. As a Hardcore player, having to run antihack in order to not get TPPK'd in every public game, I'd go play the original diablo every time the warden would sweep through and ban everyone.

Without all the duped gear, you could easily hit 50 within a month, with duped gear maybe five days... assuming you are playing with access to hell difficulty (meaning, on battle.net or with Hellfire installed) of course. The Arch Angels Staff of the Apocalypse, Obsidian Ring of the Zodiac's, and other frequently duped items really broke that game and made it super super easy.

:\


No one forced you to use those items. As a legit player I was no where near hitting lvl 50.
I actually found a kings sword of haste once that was also duped to oblivion. Unfortunatly it was in singleplayer and it was only a falchion and not a bastard sword.



I played as both legit and not legit. Unless you wanted to be bothered to use an antihack you had no idea what was real and what was duped into oblivion. Not to mention, nine times out of ten the other people in a multiplayer game would all have inventories full of duped stuff, and would use trainers to dupe things again or to guarantee certain items would drop etc.

It was annoying for me personally in D1 because it kind of ruined the gameplay experience, if you didn't want to use dupes then you either had to solo, party with people all using dupes/trainers, or get lucky and find the occassional pocket of legitimate players.

I really hope the RMAH inspires Blizzard enough to get rid of duping/botting and the like.

Heres to hoping I get in the beta because my computer is much better than the average... I got into the SC2 beta for the exact opposite reason however. <3 Sandy Bridge.
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