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Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
August 01 2011 03:20 GMT
#2381
This news is really putting a sick feeling in my stomach. It's quite early to prejudge, but the idea of paying anything for items in a game is extremely unappetizing. And I like everyone else worry that it will negate hard work, letting the wealthier people get ahead illegitimately.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
August 01 2011 03:22 GMT
#2382
God people are going crazy over D3 it seems. Community sites down or really really slow.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
August 01 2011 03:25 GMT
#2383
Blizzard have always been very anti 'pay to win', I don't know why people are getting all excited about this supposed leak. Buying items that give you an advantage will never happen in a Blizzard game.
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
August 01 2011 03:25 GMT
#2384
On August 01 2011 12:20 Juvant wrote:
This news is really putting a sick feeling in my stomach. It's quite early to prejudge, but the idea of paying anything for items in a game is extremely unappetizing. And I like everyone else worry that it will negate hard work, letting the wealthier people get ahead illegitimately.

That's how Blizzard rolls nowadays...you even have to pay money for a name change on SC2 now. And of course on WoW you can buy stuff that looks really cool, whereas before they watered it down, you had to work hard to look pretty and everyone knew you were a top player if you had really cool looking stuff. I really don't doubt they'll mash this game up with microtransactions up the butt. We'll see.
Hark!
xajten
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden18 Posts
August 01 2011 03:35 GMT
#2385
On August 01 2011 12:25 Deadlyhazard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 12:20 Juvant wrote:
This news is really putting a sick feeling in my stomach. It's quite early to prejudge, but the idea of paying anything for items in a game is extremely unappetizing. And I like everyone else worry that it will negate hard work, letting the wealthier people get ahead illegitimately.

That's how Blizzard rolls nowadays...you even have to pay money for a name change on SC2 now. And of course on WoW you can buy stuff that looks really cool, whereas before they watered it down, you had to work hard to look pretty and everyone knew you were a top player if you had really cool looking stuff. I really don't doubt they'll mash this game up with microtransactions up the butt. We'll see.


It'll be the way "players roll", since they will be the ones putting their items up on auction, not Blizzard. As for WoW, the stuff you can buy is purely cosmetic and hasn't helped anyone "win" at anything. The WoW gamers knows quite well what items can be bought, and what items cannot, to a point where someone with the Blizzard sold cosmetic items get laughed at, see http://www.wowpedia.org/That_Retarded_Horse

Relevant excerpt:
"Hardcore" players often label players with this mount "noobs" and give it derisive names such as "Crack Pony" and may discriminate against those who have it. While such views do not represent all of the WoW community, players should keep this in mind when purchasing it.
Choo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States126 Posts
August 01 2011 03:36 GMT
#2386
Here's to hoping at least one East Coast attendee forgets NDA is PST and posts in 30 mins
eXePensai
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada56 Posts
August 01 2011 03:39 GMT
#2387
On August 01 2011 12:36 Choo wrote:
Here's to hoping at least one East Coast attendee forgets NDA is PST and posts in 30 mins


Indeed good sir, indeed.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 03:47:28
August 01 2011 03:39 GMT
#2388
On August 01 2011 12:25 AndyJay wrote:
Blizzard have always been very anti 'pay to win', I don't know why people are getting all excited about this supposed leak. Buying items that give you an advantage will never happen in a Blizzard game.


nvm. too tired to write correctly. All i'm saying is, now that Activision is in the picture, everything could be possible..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
August 01 2011 03:44 GMT
#2389
It's like new years is coming early, except the world isn't going to end =D
TheArtOfFugue
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada187 Posts
August 01 2011 03:44 GMT
#2390
On August 01 2011 12:20 Juvant wrote:
This news is really putting a sick feeling in my stomach. It's quite early to prejudge, but the idea of paying anything for items in a game is extremely unappetizing. And I like everyone else worry that it will negate hard work, letting the wealthier people get ahead illegitimately.


Personally don't care if rich people waste their money on gear, If they are buying off me
74% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
August 01 2011 03:46 GMT
#2391
On August 01 2011 12:35 xajten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 12:25 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:20 Juvant wrote:
This news is really putting a sick feeling in my stomach. It's quite early to prejudge, but the idea of paying anything for items in a game is extremely unappetizing. And I like everyone else worry that it will negate hard work, letting the wealthier people get ahead illegitimately.

That's how Blizzard rolls nowadays...you even have to pay money for a name change on SC2 now. And of course on WoW you can buy stuff that looks really cool, whereas before they watered it down, you had to work hard to look pretty and everyone knew you were a top player if you had really cool looking stuff. I really don't doubt they'll mash this game up with microtransactions up the butt. We'll see.


It'll be the way "players roll", since they will be the ones putting their items up on auction, not Blizzard. As for WoW, the stuff you can buy is purely cosmetic and hasn't helped anyone "win" at anything. The WoW gamers knows quite well what items can be bought, and what items cannot, to a point where someone with the Blizzard sold cosmetic items get laughed at, see http://www.wowpedia.org/That_Retarded_Horse

Relevant excerpt:
Show nested quote +
"Hardcore" players often label players with this mount "noobs" and give it derisive names such as "Crack Pony" and may discriminate against those who have it. While such views do not represent all of the WoW community, players should keep this in mind when purchasing it.


I quit WoW long before this horse was released, but from what I heard friends complaining about, it *does* provide you an in-game advantage, doesn't it? By paying real money, you get a free (in-game) 'very fast / flying' class mount for every character, which otherwise would have cost a significant amount (at the time) of in-game gold to obtain.

You could argue that that allows money in place of time only, and not skill (after all, it didn't take skill to get gold - just grinding), but, to be honest, that could easily apply to much of the Diablo experience as well.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
August 01 2011 03:46 GMT
#2392
ughhh, blizzard went to the darkside ;__;.
Artrey
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany270 Posts
August 01 2011 03:52 GMT
#2393
On August 01 2011 12:46 Serpico wrote:
ughhh, blizzard went to the darkside ;__;.


Didn't many people complain D3 should be darker? *SCNR*
xajten
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden18 Posts
August 01 2011 03:55 GMT
#2394
On August 01 2011 12:46 Paradice wrote:
I quit WoW long before this horse was released, but from what I heard friends complaining about, it *does* provide you an in-game advantage, doesn't it? By paying real money, you get a free (in-game) 'very fast / flying' class mount for every character, which otherwise would have cost a significant amount (at the time) of in-game gold to obtain.

You could argue that that allows money in place of time only, and not skill (after all, it didn't take skill to get gold - just grinding), but, to be honest, that could easily apply to much of the Diablo experience as well.


The mount does get sent to all your characters, but it scales to the characters riding skill, so if you only have the very slowest ground mount skill, then you will only have a very slow ground mount that cannot fly, unless you purchase the associated skill(s).

Also, prior to the introduction of these cosmetic mounts they changed the price of the riding skills/mounts so that the riding skill is expensive, but the mounts are cheap, instead of the other way around like it used to be in the classic days, so a fast flying mount would be about 100g, which is just roughly 4-5 daily quests.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
August 01 2011 03:57 GMT
#2395
WoW RMT was purely cosmetic and had zero effect on gameplay. I hope this is the extent to which the D3 RMT system will work. Honestly, I would be shocked if blizzard actually took the pay to win route. They are already gouging for the game and 2 expansions like starcraft2, they are gouging for SC2 name changes, and now they want to charge you to buy epic lewtz. Honestly, what garbage.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 03:58:01
August 01 2011 03:57 GMT
#2396
On August 01 2011 12:57 Phayze wrote:
WoW RMT was purely cosmetic and had zero effect on gameplay. I hope this is the extent to which the D3 RMT system will work. Honestly, I would be shocked if blizzard actually took the pay to win route. They are already gouging for the game and 2 expansions like starcraft2, they are gouging for SC2 name changes, and now they want to charge you to buy epic lewtz. Honestly, what garbage.

It's funny because WOTLK is already outdated by cataclysm but is still 40 bucks. They dont give up money easily.
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
August 01 2011 03:58 GMT
#2397
On August 01 2011 12:55 xajten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 12:46 Paradice wrote:
I quit WoW long before this horse was released, but from what I heard friends complaining about, it *does* provide you an in-game advantage, doesn't it? By paying real money, you get a free (in-game) 'very fast / flying' class mount for every character, which otherwise would have cost a significant amount (at the time) of in-game gold to obtain.

You could argue that that allows money in place of time only, and not skill (after all, it didn't take skill to get gold - just grinding), but, to be honest, that could easily apply to much of the Diablo experience as well.


The mount does get sent to all your characters, but it scales to the characters riding skill, so if you only have the very slowest ground mount skill, then you will only have a very slow ground mount that cannot fly, unless you purchase the associated skill(s).

Also, prior to the introduction of these cosmetic mounts they changed the price of the riding skills/mounts so that the riding skill is expensive, but the mounts are cheap, instead of the other way around like it used to be in the classic days, so a fast flying mount would be about 100g, which is just roughly 4-5 daily quests.


Cheers xajten; that makes sense, and restores some of my faith in Blizz

I still have no idea what to think about a real money in-game AH though.
Medzo
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States627 Posts
August 01 2011 04:01 GMT
#2398
Im happy they added it. Money for items has always been around and wont go away no matter what they do. Might as well regulate it and help the game grow with it as well.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 01 2011 04:14 GMT
#2399
Blizzard couldn't make a real money AH, they would have to use a medium. If they made a real money AH you would have to pay taxes on your earnings (but not losses unless you made yourself into a company). It would have to be like the F2P models where you buy the in game currency to buy things, ala Maple Story, but that only works if blizzard also controls the price of the items (which it couldn't), or manipulate other values, like how much the currency costs (which could leave many people very unhappy, and lead to currency and market manipulation) and would also have problems with server resets every year, and people being capped for gear and lowering the price of items with supply, making blizzard make less unless they also lowered the drop rate etc..

The can of worms it opens is so absurdly large I can't see blizzard doing something as stupid as what is being proposed. Shutting down the d2jsp etc. sites is a different goal from the real money market people are talking about. You can do one without the other.
Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
August 01 2011 04:18 GMT
#2400
People on a lot of D3 forums are theorizing that this was an April fools joke that was never released, and was showed off at the convention. Most of the dates of transactions in the pictures are dated 4-1-11. Hoping this is true, really.
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