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YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
October 24 2010 21:01 GMT
#221
On October 23 2010 09:47 Mothxal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 07:29 robertdinh wrote:
On October 23 2010 07:25 JoxxOr wrote:
On October 23 2010 07:20 kataa wrote:
On October 23 2010 07:10 DannyJ wrote:
Im really having a hard time trying to imagine balanced pvp arenas in a diablo game...

It will probably be like Arena in WoW. Balanced up to a point, but certainly not balanced enought to be a proper esport.


The thing is though that WoW always had PvE balance to think about while diablo 3 won't have that issue i guess, which means it gets easier to balance pvp


They are going to need spells to work differently or be less effective in pvp than in pve, something wow refused to implement.

Except that they implemented it in WoW?


And it's called PvM not PvE goddammit.
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Dankmids
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States316 Posts
October 24 2010 21:20 GMT
#222
On October 25 2010 05:59 Manit0u wrote:


Not to mention the amount of advertising it received...

You can also take a look at Sims series, which aren't a great game, yet they're selling like hot buns in the morning. Why is that?


The sims is selling good because of the nostalgia and the fact its a very simple game and been around for years.
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alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
October 24 2010 23:08 GMT
#223
I actually think the demon hunter is pretty cool. I'm not sure why a lot of people seem to hate it so much.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 24 2010 23:15 GMT
#224
Its a bit dissapointing that Blizzard has started using this ingame-type of graphics when making trailers, it looks pretty underwhelming and bland compared to the more epic WoW trailer they used to have.

Even the diablo 2 act cinematics looks better than these.
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TheGreenMachine
Profile Joined March 2010
United States730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 04:51:05
October 25 2010 04:44 GMT
#225
On October 24 2010 02:09 Urnhardt wrote:
so is blizzard gonna try to shove this game out this year? been in dev since 2001 if i remember reading correctly. heard a few days ago that the WOW expansion Cataclysm is coming out this year, which a lot of people were wondering about. they gonna try for 3 huge games in one year or just save this one for next year?


Jay Wilson says the beta will come out about 6 months before release so we have a while to wait...

-Source @5:12

That same interview in part 3 says Diablo 3 might be pay-to-play in certain regions. He was very vague though. He also reconfirms that Diablo 3 PvP will not be "competitively balanced as an Esport".

And I totally agree that the cinematics could look much better, especially the wizard one. I liked the first cinematic for the game though with the candles and "I have seen what the darkness hides". I also didn't mind the new demon hunter cinematic. Personally I think shes an awesome new class.
Don't forget to get everyone you know to play HOTS so this game we love called Starcraft will live on. Every little bit helps. ^^
Dr.Kill-Joy
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States627 Posts
October 25 2010 05:01 GMT
#226
Um from that demon hunter video it looks pretty goth to me and I can't wait for this to come out. Looks so awesome.

Looks better than the D2
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alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
October 25 2010 05:05 GMT
#227
The cinematics for the monk, wizard, and demon hunter aren't intended to be full-fledged pre-rendered CGI. Think of them as being more similar to the in-game cinematics for Starcraft 2. I'm certain that Diablo 3 will have more high quality movies, but there is no way they could have made high quality movies for simple class reveals. They'll probably save that effort for more epic scenes throughout the story.
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
October 25 2010 05:13 GMT
#228
On October 25 2010 03:38 anch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 00:41 Jarvs wrote:
Demon Hunter? Seriously? Aren't ALL classes hunting demons?

I really hope they justify the endless arrow, no-cocking, dual crossbow logic. I rarely call bullshit on these kinds of badassery, but I'm calling bullshit.

my thoughts exactly. to me its like a bowZon + trap assn mix. the no-cocking was wtf, muti arrows was okay.

Demo was horrible, if you guy played DH on single player; she can barely kills stuff. overall i did not find a replacement weapon, i had to use the default no stats dual xbow.
I think shes missing the variety of weapon that can be used. Monk/barb use can use swords,axe,etc. WD, wizard use 2h staff or 1h staff. DH only gets the dual xbow skills.


i LOVEDDD bowazons, it was my first ladder char (lvl 97), but like you said, it looks like bowazon with some tacky grenades.

i found the demo horrible as well =[ shes going to have trouble with crowd control as always, i guess the nades will help :S

nevertheless, i'm eagerly anticipating this game.
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eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
October 25 2010 05:36 GMT
#229
On October 25 2010 14:13 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 03:38 anch wrote:
On October 24 2010 00:41 Jarvs wrote:
Demon Hunter? Seriously? Aren't ALL classes hunting demons?

I really hope they justify the endless arrow, no-cocking, dual crossbow logic. I rarely call bullshit on these kinds of badassery, but I'm calling bullshit.

my thoughts exactly. to me its like a bowZon + trap assn mix. the no-cocking was wtf, muti arrows was okay.

Demo was horrible, if you guy played DH on single player; she can barely kills stuff. overall i did not find a replacement weapon, i had to use the default no stats dual xbow.
I think shes missing the variety of weapon that can be used. Monk/barb use can use swords,axe,etc. WD, wizard use 2h staff or 1h staff. DH only gets the dual xbow skills.


i LOVEDDD bowazons, it was my first ladder char (lvl 97), but like you said, it looks like bowazon with some tacky grenades.

i found the demo horrible as well =[ shes going to have trouble with crowd control as always, i guess the nades will help :S

nevertheless, i'm eagerly anticipating this game.


i also found it awful to play in the demo. Multi Shot did no damage, my trap seemed to have 0 radius and the mob literally had to walk over it to set it off, and it just felt clunky overall. even the previewed abilities made it seem too much like relying on things like Assassin traps, setting them up then backing up to lure monsters into them, which would be awful when power-running or even in a 4-player game where you just power through the dungeons.

i feel like it would be as useless as Witch Doctor in the battle arena too.

Monk, Wizard, and Barb were very enjoyable though.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
October 25 2010 05:40 GMT
#230
On October 25 2010 13:44 TheGreenMachine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 02:09 Urnhardt wrote:
so is blizzard gonna try to shove this game out this year? been in dev since 2001 if i remember reading correctly. heard a few days ago that the WOW expansion Cataclysm is coming out this year, which a lot of people were wondering about. they gonna try for 3 huge games in one year or just save this one for next year?


Jay Wilson says the beta will come out about 6 months before release so we have a while to wait...

-Source @5:12

That same interview in part 3 says Diablo 3 might be pay-to-play in certain regions. He was very vague though. He also reconfirms that Diablo 3 PvP will not be "competitively balanced as an Esport".

And I totally agree that the cinematics could look much better, especially the wizard one. I liked the first cinematic for the game though with the candles and "I have seen what the darkness hides". I also didn't mind the new demon hunter cinematic. Personally I think shes an awesome new class.

I hope this doesn't happen. This is part of the reason I loved D2 so much. I'm so hyped up for D3 but no way am I paying a subscription fee for a non-MMORPG.

Hell, I won't even want to pay a subscription fee for an MMORPG -_-
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
October 25 2010 05:45 GMT
#231
On October 25 2010 14:40 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 13:44 TheGreenMachine wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:09 Urnhardt wrote:
so is blizzard gonna try to shove this game out this year? been in dev since 2001 if i remember reading correctly. heard a few days ago that the WOW expansion Cataclysm is coming out this year, which a lot of people were wondering about. they gonna try for 3 huge games in one year or just save this one for next year?


Jay Wilson says the beta will come out about 6 months before release so we have a while to wait...

-Source @5:12

That same interview in part 3 says Diablo 3 might be pay-to-play in certain regions. He was very vague though. He also reconfirms that Diablo 3 PvP will not be "competitively balanced as an Esport".

And I totally agree that the cinematics could look much better, especially the wizard one. I liked the first cinematic for the game though with the candles and "I have seen what the darkness hides". I also didn't mind the new demon hunter cinematic. Personally I think shes an awesome new class.

I hope this doesn't happen. This is part of the reason I loved D2 so much. I'm so hyped up for D3 but no way am I paying a subscription fee for a non-MMORPG.

Hell, I won't even want to pay a subscription fee for an MMORPG -_-


they know D3 won't survive with a monthly subscription. they're probably covering their bases in case they decide to have a different model for Latin America like they're doing with SC2 (base client is very cheap, but monthly fee to continue playing online).
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
October 25 2010 05:48 GMT
#232
wasnt SC2 pay-to-play in S.Korea already? cuz Blizzard promoting SC2 while leeching money form WoW
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
October 25 2010 06:15 GMT
#233
Just to clear it up, they said that certain abilities will change (balance) when you enter PvP.

also, hardcore characters will die in pvp
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 25 2010 06:20 GMT
#234
On October 25 2010 15:15 bakedace wrote:
Just to clear it up, they said that certain abilities will change (balance) when you enter PvP.

also, hardcore characters will die in pvp


Have they confirmed how HC is going to work? I was under the impression that HC characters and regular characters would play in the same realm this time around, like in the original...

If that is the case, then having PvP arenas spell the end for HC characters is stupid.
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 06:31:06
October 25 2010 06:30 GMT
#235
On October 25 2010 14:45 eggs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 14:40 o3.power91 wrote:
On October 25 2010 13:44 TheGreenMachine wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:09 Urnhardt wrote:
so is blizzard gonna try to shove this game out this year? been in dev since 2001 if i remember reading correctly. heard a few days ago that the WOW expansion Cataclysm is coming out this year, which a lot of people were wondering about. they gonna try for 3 huge games in one year or just save this one for next year?


Jay Wilson says the beta will come out about 6 months before release so we have a while to wait...

-Source @5:12

That same interview in part 3 says Diablo 3 might be pay-to-play in certain regions. He was very vague though. He also reconfirms that Diablo 3 PvP will not be "competitively balanced as an Esport".

And I totally agree that the cinematics could look much better, especially the wizard one. I liked the first cinematic for the game though with the candles and "I have seen what the darkness hides". I also didn't mind the new demon hunter cinematic. Personally I think shes an awesome new class.

I hope this doesn't happen. This is part of the reason I loved D2 so much. I'm so hyped up for D3 but no way am I paying a subscription fee for a non-MMORPG.

Hell, I won't even want to pay a subscription fee for an MMORPG -_-


they know D3 won't survive with a monthly subscription. they're probably covering their bases in case they decide to have a different model for Latin America like they're doing with SC2 (base client is very cheap, but monthly fee to continue playing online).


I think its pay-to-play for a limited amount of regions...

As I may recall, the Russian Starcraft 2 server is pay-to-play.
protoss22
Profile Joined August 2010
United States41 Posts
October 25 2010 06:37 GMT
#236
I don't know if you guys noticed yet, but
"3:34

Q: MP question: Will the player amount per game remain the same?
Saturday October 23, 2010 3:34
3:34

A: It could change, but it's been playing really well with a 4p cap. "

4 Player cap, for a game with more than 4 classes announced seems kind of silly.
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
October 25 2010 06:52 GMT
#237
On October 25 2010 15:37 protoss22 wrote:
I don't know if you guys noticed yet, but
"3:34

Q: MP question: Will the player amount per game remain the same?
Saturday October 23, 2010 3:34
3:34

A: It could change, but it's been playing really well with a 4p cap. "

4 Player cap, for a game with more than 4 classes announced seems kind of silly.


i was playing the demos with a group of 4, and 4 seemed like too much honestly. it was frustrating getting through doorways so we just split up into 2 pairs until we spawned the events/bosses. keep in mind that you get individual loot drops, so when you split up and clear different rooms you have to go back to what the other guys cleared to see your loot. at blizzcon the playtime was limited and the characters were throwaways so i didn't care too much about drops, but in a real game it would not be fun to play in a game with 8 people spreading out and then going through the entire empty dungeon just to make sure you didn't miss a Unique.
exitusnow
Profile Joined August 2010
28 Posts
October 25 2010 07:10 GMT
#238
cant wait for d3 to come out, after watching some the stuff from blizzcon i picked up d2 again and got back into hc. I cant wait for d3 hc its goin to be great again to have a high level geared character that means something again.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 07:20:48
October 25 2010 07:15 GMT
#239
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mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
October 25 2010 07:31 GMT
#240
I actually interpreted it differently. The 1/8 is so the battles aren't over in 1 hit, that's obvious. I'm wondering if they're suggesting that actual spells, individually may/may not be changed/tweaked for PvP. Because if it was a simple Monster vs. 1/8 Person penalty, I feel like they woulda just said that.
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