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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 09:58:26
January 30 2016 09:51 GMT
#20961
I started playing with a two friends last night in hardcore seasonal. I thought if we die, our characters would be transferred into normal seasonal pool(My friend died so this doesn't look like the case)
This was the first time we played hardcore so it was fun but now i am left alone as my two friends are level 1 again

The game is much more fun to play when leveling up though. What would be a good difficulty for hardcore? My friend died at Urzael on master difficulty around level 50(i know we suck, lol). He insisted on increasing the difficulty because we were destroying mobs in one hit so we didn't have to use our all skills
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9591 Posts
January 30 2016 11:54 GMT
#20962
Generally the consensus is hard for 1-70 leveling. Then just run bounties or rifts until you get some decent gear which is ilvl 70. Then you skip master all together and head on into torments starting from Torment I and go higher as your gear progresses.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
January 30 2016 16:55 GMT
#20963
What's the fastest way to lvl 1-70 now? for softcore season
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 17:23:51
January 30 2016 17:09 GMT
#20964
On January 31 2016 01:55 hunts wrote:
What's the fastest way to lvl 1-70 now? for softcore season


Ask someone for a boost? should take 30-45 minutes.
If you insist on solo start on hard, do bounties till lv 20+, switch to story to kill leoric for his guaranteed crown drop, insert the highest possible ruby in it you have, and go back to bounties/rifts until you hit level 70. Do not take the crown off until 70, just upgrade the ruby inside it.

Btw I'm starting to burn out. I do 10-15 TX rifts a day and just as many Grifts 50/55/60 and the amount of ancient drops is just piss poor. And even when 1 does drop its shoulders of light or a deathseer's cowl. Completely fucking useless. 0 upgrades for the past 3 days.

On thorn-sader i don't have a single ancient item on me. The LoN bombardment set I'm trying to assemble, has only an acient final witness and a mediocre rolled illuionary pair of boots, you'd think in 3 days and 500 paragon overall I'd find an upgrade to SOMETHING, but nope.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 30 2016 21:46 GMT
#20965
Just jumped in a public Greater Rift game and did a 68.

What a time to be alive
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 31 2016 20:49 GMT
#20966
Ok I just maxed out CDR in PL. Does area damage do anything for a thornsader? I'm going to guess no. But gold find seems useless and so is resource cost reduction because I dont have any spenders. utility category seems wasted now. I guess gold find would be better for empowered rifts????

also is endless walk set that good? everyone seems to be using it in online builds, but it seems like there is a setup period between defense/attack modes.

also, for legendary gems i am using stricken, the + thorn one, and trapped. would it be worth swapping one out for gogok for + attack speed and CDR? Not sure which one would result in better DPS. +attack speed would help with the 2 set bonus in thorns build. more attacks in 2 seconds means more damage

no one seems to be using gogok in builds listed online
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
January 31 2016 20:51 GMT
#20967
the swap between attack/defense its gradually but its pretty fast tho
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 31 2016 21:09 GMT
#20968
On February 01 2016 05:49 fishjie wrote:
Ok I just maxed out CDR in PL. Does area damage do anything for a thornsader? I'm going to guess no. But gold find seems useless and so is resource cost reduction because I dont have any spenders. utility category seems wasted now. I guess gold find would be better for empowered rifts????

also is endless walk set that good? everyone seems to be using it in online builds, but it seems like there is a setup period between defense/attack modes.

also, for legendary gems i am using stricken, the + thorn one, and trapped. would it be worth swapping one out for gogok for + attack speed and CDR? Not sure which one would result in better DPS. +attack speed would help with the 2 set bonus in thorns build. more attacks in 2 seconds means more damage

no one seems to be using gogok in builds listed online

area dmg should be #1 for thornsader.

stricken for high gr; use the +elite dmg one for t10, lower gr. gogok is no good, the cdr bonus is basically useless because it only applies if you have it up when you click the skill, which will be hard to coordinate. if you are having to hit something a lot of times making the ias useful then stricken would probably be better.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
January 31 2016 21:36 GMT
#20969
On January 30 2016 18:42 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 17:03 Duka08 wrote:
On January 30 2016 10:15 Cascade wrote:
On January 30 2016 09:48 Kipsate wrote:
What GR is this and what level of gear do you have?

GR 60-65.

This is me: eu.battle.net

I am running this build: http://www.diablofans.com/builds/69933-quin69-gr88-dmo-wizard-solo
I have all the pieces, with most of the desired rolls, but most pieces not ancient.


I've got that completed build as well and I haven't had any issues running 60-65 range with some pretty non-ideal rolls on a few pieces. I haven't pushed much past 65, but 65 also isn't uncomfortable or impossible either. I think it's still too low to worry much about extreme density and rounding things up. I've had no timer issues just teleporting around looking for elites and any packs that are already grouped up. Spending time kiting things and creating density for yourself has only slowed me down so far. This obviously turns over at higher GR when you need to group things up and hope for density and good mob types, but I don't think it's as relevant below GR70ish. Focus on DPS and keeping your cycle going instead.

So you don't feel any problem with the follower stealing density for you? Do you run ess of johan as well on the follower?

I do. Again I'm not a high GR pro but I haven't felt like it really messes with me that much. I can see it being weird at really high GR but even when you're kiting and building density you're moving around enough that your follower doesn't always root in a bad place and distract half your mobs. I can imagine there are other good alternatives though.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4384 Posts
January 31 2016 22:09 GMT
#20970
Hi guys, I apologize for the incoming super noob questions that follow.

How do seasonal characters work? If I start a seasonal character game, am I able to switch it back to story mode with that character? Does equipment get lost in those transitions or can I stash it?

Another question is regarding the intro video for the new season. They seem to show a new area to discover. Is that area a NR or a GR or a simple new area in adventure mode? Moreover, in the vídeo they show a kickass DH set....what exactly do I need to do to get it? I assume that for a complete noob in the game like myself getting that set is next to impossible if not actually impossible. But assuming that I had the time, skill and knowledge to play a lot, at least it would be cool to know how to get it

I appreciate your help thanks in advance!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 31 2016 22:17 GMT
#20971
On February 01 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 05:49 fishjie wrote:
Ok I just maxed out CDR in PL. Does area damage do anything for a thornsader? I'm going to guess no. But gold find seems useless and so is resource cost reduction because I dont have any spenders. utility category seems wasted now. I guess gold find would be better for empowered rifts????

also is endless walk set that good? everyone seems to be using it in online builds, but it seems like there is a setup period between defense/attack modes.

also, for legendary gems i am using stricken, the + thorn one, and trapped. would it be worth swapping one out for gogok for + attack speed and CDR? Not sure which one would result in better DPS. +attack speed would help with the 2 set bonus in thorns build. more attacks in 2 seconds means more damage

no one seems to be using gogok in builds listed online

area dmg should be #1 for thornsader.

stricken for high gr; use the +elite dmg one for t10, lower gr. gogok is no good, the cdr bonus is basically useless because it only applies if you have it up when you click the skill, which will be hard to coordinate. if you are having to hit something a lot of times making the ias useful then stricken would probably be better.


hold on can you explain why + area damage is good? does that apply for thorns?

cause if so oops

also, is it possible to roll +damage off a weaopn? i got this leg dagger with great +stats, but i want to remove the +damage from it and replace with socket (since damage on weapon doesnt matter for thornsader), but i rolled 40 times and every time it just rolls to damage with a different element
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22566 Posts
January 31 2016 22:25 GMT
#20972
On February 01 2016 07:09 KobraKay wrote:
Hi guys, I apologize for the incoming super noob questions that follow.

How do seasonal characters work? If I start a seasonal character game, am I able to switch it back to story mode with that character? Does equipment get lost in those transitions or can I stash it?

Another question is regarding the intro video for the new season. They seem to show a new area to discover. Is that area a NR or a GR or a simple new area in adventure mode? Moreover, in the vídeo they show a kickass DH set....what exactly do I need to do to get it? I assume that for a complete noob in the game like myself getting that set is next to impossible if not actually impossible. But assuming that I had the time, skill and knowledge to play a lot, at least it would be cool to know how to get it

I appreciate your help thanks in advance!

See it as being 4 different games. Non-Season. Non-Season Hardcore, Season and Season Hardcore.
Characters, storage, town upgrades ect all of them are tracked separately.

You can both the campaign and adventure mode in season.
You cant move from one of the 4 to another but you can freely switch between story(campaign) and adventure(bounty)

When the season ends your Season and Season Hardcore characters are turned into Non-Season and Non-Season Hardcore characters.

If you turn a non-Season character into a Season character all their gear is mailed to your non-season account.

Set items drop like any other item. just a small% chance. You can also gamble them from Kadala (again, small chance)
This Season you get a 'free' set once. There is a set of quests in Season (get to 70. kill boss X on difficulty Y ect). called the Season Journey. 3 of these give you the set. you will see them as you play.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
January 31 2016 23:01 GMT
#20973
On February 01 2016 07:17 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 01 2016 05:49 fishjie wrote:
Ok I just maxed out CDR in PL. Does area damage do anything for a thornsader? I'm going to guess no. But gold find seems useless and so is resource cost reduction because I dont have any spenders. utility category seems wasted now. I guess gold find would be better for empowered rifts????

also is endless walk set that good? everyone seems to be using it in online builds, but it seems like there is a setup period between defense/attack modes.

also, for legendary gems i am using stricken, the + thorn one, and trapped. would it be worth swapping one out for gogok for + attack speed and CDR? Not sure which one would result in better DPS. +attack speed would help with the 2 set bonus in thorns build. more attacks in 2 seconds means more damage

no one seems to be using gogok in builds listed online

area dmg should be #1 for thornsader.

stricken for high gr; use the +elite dmg one for t10, lower gr. gogok is no good, the cdr bonus is basically useless because it only applies if you have it up when you click the skill, which will be hard to coordinate. if you are having to hit something a lot of times making the ias useful then stricken would probably be better.


hold on can you explain why + area damage is good? does that apply for thorns?

cause if so oops

also, is it possible to roll +damage off a weaopn? i got this leg dagger with great +stats, but i want to remove the +damage from it and replace with socket (since damage on weapon doesnt matter for thornsader), but i rolled 40 times and every time it just rolls to damage with a different element

Yeah you can roll the damage range off of a weapon, but the odds are very strongly tilted towards rolling damage.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 31 2016 23:08 GMT
#20974
you can roll it off but it takes a lot of tries.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4384 Posts
January 31 2016 23:16 GMT
#20975
On February 01 2016 07:25 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 07:09 KobraKay wrote:
Hi guys, I apologize for the incoming super noob questions that follow.

How do seasonal characters work? If I start a seasonal character game, am I able to switch it back to story mode with that character? Does equipment get lost in those transitions or can I stash it?

Another question is regarding the intro video for the new season. They seem to show a new area to discover. Is that area a NR or a GR or a simple new area in adventure mode? Moreover, in the vídeo they show a kickass DH set....what exactly do I need to do to get it? I assume that for a complete noob in the game like myself getting that set is next to impossible if not actually impossible. But assuming that I had the time, skill and knowledge to play a lot, at least it would be cool to know how to get it

I appreciate your help thanks in advance!

See it as being 4 different games. Non-Season. Non-Season Hardcore, Season and Season Hardcore.
Characters, storage, town upgrades ect all of them are tracked separately.

You can both the campaign and adventure mode in season.
You cant move from one of the 4 to another but you can freely switch between story(campaign) and adventure(bounty)

When the season ends your Season and Season Hardcore characters are turned into Non-Season and Non-Season Hardcore characters.

If you turn a non-Season character into a Season character all their gear is mailed to your non-season account.

Set items drop like any other item. just a small% chance. You can also gamble them from Kadala (again, small chance)
This Season you get a 'free' set once. There is a set of quests in Season (get to 70. kill boss X on difficulty Y ect). called the Season Journey. 3 of these give you the set. you will see them as you play.


Ok, thank you very much. I'll try to start a seasonal DH then and see if I can go about the season journey.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22412 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 00:40:30
February 01 2016 00:33 GMT
#20976
I am using the gabriels vambraces power on my crusader through kanais cube but the 100 % refund doesnt seem to work (I seemed to get refunds when I just used the item with the power).

Or maybe I misunderstand how it works and it only calculates if it gets refunded when the effect of a hammer expires (and it hit <4 enemies). Edit: yep when I put in the explosive rune it works just fine ^^
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 01 2016 00:51 GMT
#20977
On February 01 2016 07:17 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 06:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 01 2016 05:49 fishjie wrote:
Ok I just maxed out CDR in PL. Does area damage do anything for a thornsader? I'm going to guess no. But gold find seems useless and so is resource cost reduction because I dont have any spenders. utility category seems wasted now. I guess gold find would be better for empowered rifts????

also is endless walk set that good? everyone seems to be using it in online builds, but it seems like there is a setup period between defense/attack modes.

also, for legendary gems i am using stricken, the + thorn one, and trapped. would it be worth swapping one out for gogok for + attack speed and CDR? Not sure which one would result in better DPS. +attack speed would help with the 2 set bonus in thorns build. more attacks in 2 seconds means more damage

no one seems to be using gogok in builds listed online

area dmg should be #1 for thornsader.

stricken for high gr; use the +elite dmg one for t10, lower gr. gogok is no good, the cdr bonus is basically useless because it only applies if you have it up when you click the skill, which will be hard to coordinate. if you are having to hit something a lot of times making the ias useful then stricken would probably be better.


hold on can you explain why + area damage is good? does that apply for thorns?

cause if so oops

also, is it possible to roll +damage off a weaopn? i got this leg dagger with great +stats, but i want to remove the +damage from it and replace with socket (since damage on weapon doesnt matter for thornsader), but i rolled 40 times and every time it just rolls to damage with a different element

i cannot explain it, i just do what smarter people tell me. =)

http://www.diablofans.com/builds/69887-2-4-gr87-invoker-punish
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 01 2016 01:24 GMT
#20978
When you get higher in the Grift levels, the Thorns damage isn't fast or reliable enough to kill things, so most of your damage is actually coming from the Punish+6piece bonus, which is entirely single target.

Basically it really helps your Grifting speed if you kill as much as possible while only clicking on Elites and Champions.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 01 2016 03:34 GMT
#20979
On February 01 2016 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
When you get higher in the Grift levels, the Thorns damage isn't fast or reliable enough to kill things, so most of your damage is actually coming from the Punish+6piece bonus, which is entirely single target.

Basically it really helps your Grifting speed if you kill as much as possible while only clicking on Elites and Champions.


Ah thanks that makes sense! Shoot, so I hit pl 200+ last night and maxed out LOH. I'll change to area damage. I've been doing it all wrong! Supposedly LOH would synergiize well w the attack speed of thorn sader but I'm still glass cannon at torment 10 due to missing some damage reduction pieces of the build. Still really fun build. Really enjoy the diversity they've introduced. A build that doesn't rely on stacking crit

WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 01 2016 06:04 GMT
#20980
On February 01 2016 12:34 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
When you get higher in the Grift levels, the Thorns damage isn't fast or reliable enough to kill things, so most of your damage is actually coming from the Punish+6piece bonus, which is entirely single target.

Basically it really helps your Grifting speed if you kill as much as possible while only clicking on Elites and Champions.


Ah thanks that makes sense! Shoot, so I hit pl 200+ last night and maxed out LOH. I'll change to area damage. I've been doing it all wrong! Supposedly LOH would synergiize well w the attack speed of thorn sader but I'm still glass cannon at torment 10 due to missing some damage reduction pieces of the build. Still really fun build. Really enjoy the diversity they've introduced. A build that doesn't rely on stacking crit


Well, I'd still put LoH over Area Damage, because dying is worse.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
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