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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On May 06 2014 03:59 Torte de Lini wrote: There's already a room on KGS! Look under Social :DDDD I play very slowly ): I dont go on that much, but when i am ill give you a game or 2  i made a monster edit btw in previous post. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 06 2014 03:54 Nouar wrote: Yes about j12. Lower right, click on move numbers around where there are variations (line branching out) and you'll see his comments and suggestions. I agree, for the second game, at what moment did you feel you were in charge ? 0_o Going through it fast, it seems he always has your number and is countering you at every corner, he feels much stronger, I don't get why he got handicap stones. Don't be sad about that game, you didn't stand a chance. That is so fucking cooooooooool! Turn 37 I felt had a good handle on things and then I ventured to his corner. What also tricks me up is that sometimes I feel like he's placing random stones and I can't understnad what they are for until it is way too late! | ||
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Hagen0
Germany765 Posts
Have a look at the board. You have about 12 points of secure territory on the upper side, another group at d12 which does not secure any points but influences the left side and the center. Realistically you cannot expect to profit much from the d12 group because it is missing a stone at b10 which makes it hard to build territory on the left side and black already encroached into your sphere of influence in the center with f15. Note that there is no way for you to cut off f15. Black has about 7 points of territory at the left side and two captured stones, 9 points in total. However he completely dominates the right side and the bottom side of the board. None of this positions are already secure territory bu he will be able to make far more points in these areas than you. Meanwhile you aspirations in the center will come to nothing due to f15. As mentioned above your opponent seems to be far stronger than you, probably a sandbagger. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 06 2014 05:27 Hagen0 wrote: At turn 37 the game was already hopeless for you. Have a look at the board. You have about 12 points of secure territory on the upper side, another group at d12 which does not secure any points but influences the left side and the center. Realistically you cannot expect to profit much from the d12 group because it is missing a stone at b10 which makes it hard to build territory on the left side and black already encroached into your sphere of influence in the center with f15. Note that there is no way for you to cut off f15. Black has about 7 points of territory at the left side and two captured stones, 9 points in total. However he completely dominates the right side and the bottom side of the board. None of this positions are already secure territory bu he will be able to make far more points in these areas than you. Meanwhile you aspirations in the center will come to nothing due to f15. As mentioned above your opponent seems to be far stronger than you, probably a sandbagger. I think the biggest problem I am having is understanding what is my territory, the balance between ensuring I am securing territory over capturing stones. I feel like I am flipping between the two. On a smaller scale, it is very obvious, but on a larger scale I get confused. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
Let's say, there is a scale of how good a move is. Pass is 0, a move perfectly achieving a single purpose is worth 1 There are not many moves worse then pass(so they have a negative value), but some are... And they can also be found in your games a few times. They are pretty easy to avoid, once you know about them, and it immediately makes you a fair bit stronger... Then the next step is avoiding all those moves with a value around 0. This can be easy in some cases, but difficult in others... still.. Again with some explanations it is easy to reduce the ratio drastically. And if this done... Then the real game starts... Because then it is all about finding the best moves for a certain purpose, finding the most important purposes, and later find moves that actually help with several purposes But first master the basics, before diving too deep here | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 06 2014 23:19 mahrgell wrote: Looking at your games, I think, you look too far in your search for mistakes Let's say, there is a scale of how good a move is. Pass is 0, a move perfectly achieving a single purpose is worth 1 There are not many moves worse then pass(so they have a negative value), but some are... And they can also be found in your games a few times. They are pretty easy to avoid, once you know about them, and it immediately makes you a fair bit stronger... Then the next step is avoiding all those moves with a value around 0. This can be easy in some cases, but difficult in others... still.. Again with some explanations it is easy to reduce the ratio drastically. And if this done... Then the real game starts... Because then it is all about finding the best moves for a certain purpose, finding the most important purposes, and later find moves that actually help with several purposes But first master the basics, before diving too deep here Mm, you're right. Maybe I am a bit too critical. I don't see problems as gradual steps; but key areas that need "fixing" checkmarks of reminders. I should probably change it to more of a scaling point. I just won my first game, but I had help from my boss: Mr. Lee. He played amateur GO when he was younger and he says he was about a 1 kyu (geup) online and 6 kyu in live matches. He says his father is a professional Go teacher also, he was a 5dan. Here's the replay. Can you guess at which move he started to teach me? http://eidogo.com/#49b7vs3zO + Show Spoiler [answer] + Move 150 | ||
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ToSs.Bag
United States201 Posts
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PassionFruit
294 Posts
Around 4k when I played casually in college. Maybe I'll make an account on KGS sometime and head over to the TL room. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27154 Posts
An interesting article on the troubles computers have with go, and how much more intense it is than chess. | ||
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seom
South Africa491 Posts
On June 07 2010 20:17 Zona wrote: I've got to start playing again. Oh - any recommended beginner books? I need to restart from the basics. I recommend Iwamoto Kauru's "Go for Beginners" - shouldn't be hard to find. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 09 2014 05:08 ToSs.Bag wrote: Torte de lini, do you still play? I picked up this game right about the same time you did. I would love to play you somehow. Cheers! hey! Yes, I still play albeit not recently due to more pressing issues! I intend to get back into the swing of things this week :D | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 11 2014 07:54 TanGeng wrote: lamo, Tortelini. that game. haha yeah, it's been awhile since that game; but that match was definitely radical! | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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nimbim
Germany985 Posts
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Antipathy
United States222 Posts
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KillerDucky
United States498 Posts
I hope he ends up on http://online-go.com or http://www.gokgs.com maybe streams some.  | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 29 2014 08:41 KillerDucky wrote: Day9 just tweeted some about Go: https://twitter.com/day9tv/status/515750379301003264 I hope he ends up on http://online-go.com or http://www.gokgs.com maybe streams some. Yeah, I hope so as well! I hope he streams as well because I'd watch that! | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
I prefer it over having to install KGS at work and such and it feels a lot more intuitive, though I understand it is more limited ): | ||
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