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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
May 25 2017 05:14 GMT
#441


This is really neat.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 25 2017 05:42 GMT
#442
Another victory for AlphaGo. This will be a truly interesting game to analyze if AlphaGo thought Ke Jie was playing flawlessly up to a point.
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
May 25 2017 11:04 GMT
#443
in the press conference it was also said that AG cosidered Ke Jie ahead for the first 50 moves, and considered it perfectly even for the next 50
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-25 19:39:03
May 25 2017 19:30 GMT
#444
Ke Jie requested to play as White for the game 3, this will give him the best chance to pull off a win. The Deepmind team agreed.

Considering how much stronger the program has become since the Lee Sedol challenge, Ke's play was quite impressive.
chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
694 Posts
May 25 2017 21:04 GMT
#445
I wonder how much of that advantage was from komi.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
May 25 2017 21:34 GMT
#446
One of the deepmind team member said alphago gives a very slight advantage to white under the 7.5 komi rule, but did not elaborate on the exact percentages. Ke Jie is also known to be much stronger on white.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
May 27 2017 09:13 GMT
#447
Also if you look at the 10 games that were just released of AlphaGo playing against itself (and 40 more to come in the next 4 days) you can see that 8 games were won by white. I suspect that trent will continue in all 50 games.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
May 27 2017 14:51 GMT
#448
Jesus the Alphago games vs itself is just...

The claim of "3 stones stronger" doesn't seem like such a far off statement now (even though it's more like 1.5 stones maybe? who knows)

Every move it makes is ultra flexible and has multi purpose meaning waaaay beyond any human can understand. Funny we thought it would be a monster at reading, but in fact it's a monster at positional play and the ability to understand the tradeoffs and full potential of every move
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 27 2017 15:28 GMT
#449
Is Go more complicated than Shougi? Shouldn't be, right?
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-27 20:38:30
May 27 2017 20:38 GMT
#450
It depends on how you define what's complicated, because Go is a very simple game rule-wise for example.

But it is 19x19... 361, while Shougi is 81 right?

By the 32nd move, the number of possibilities goes beyond the number of atoms in the known universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_and_mathematics#Legal_positions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_shogi#Game_complexity
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
May 28 2017 20:38 GMT
#451
All 50 Alpha Go self playe games are released now. They look super weird.


Especially after looking at these, I feel confident in saying that Go is more complicated than Shogi
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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
May 28 2017 21:05 GMT
#452
Had a browse of the games

Looks like total alien go to me

Attachment after attachment and always invade the 3-3 lol
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
May 29 2017 04:56 GMT
#453
I wouldn't be surprised if people start to play like it within a year or so. It's a shame that they are retiring the program. I hope someday it will be made open source. The computational requirement isn't super high, definitely possible to get an unbeatable version going on a home PC a few years down the road.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 13 2018 11:57 GMT
#454
Anyone still play?

I'm still playing but mostly 9x9 and I can't seem to consistently win. I feel like I'm just playing poorly all around.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 11 2018 15:06 GMT
#455
Somehow the broadcast of the German Go championship is currently having >5000 viewers on twitch!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4175 Posts
September 16 2022 14:03 GMT
#456
bump

anyone interested in the game still?

I have finally overcome my "i'm going to lose a lot" anxiety (after around 8 years of being interested in the game overall..) and started playing on ogs recently.

having a lot of fun so far, shame i didn't start earlier
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9016 Posts
September 16 2022 17:21 GMT
#457
It's impossible to quit this game.
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States528 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-17 04:54:11
September 17 2022 04:52 GMT
#458
I'm playing on OGS, https://online-go.com/player/1169028/, ranked 4kyu playing against bots. It might be fun to play against people or posters from TL. I don't see an easy button to challenge, might have to make a game and invite.

Also, I'm actively playing chess on lichess.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 17 2022 18:07 GMT
#459
I have like 4000 games on ogs, and plan to go to tourneys again soonish
TL+ Member
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4175 Posts
September 18 2022 15:04 GMT
#460
On September 17 2022 02:21 Garnet wrote:
It's impossible to quit this game.

damn straigh.. same as chess, honestly. if you go deep enough.. there's no coming back from the vortex.

in a good way, of course.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
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