Ke Jie requested to play as White for the game 3, this will give him the best chance to pull off a win. The Deepmind team agreed.

Considering how much stronger the program has become since the Lee Sedol challenge, Ke's play was quite impressive.

chocorush

696 Posts

May 25 2017 21:04 GMT

#445

I wonder how much of that advantage was from komi.

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

May 25 2017 21:34 GMT

#446

One of the deepmind team member said alphago gives a very slight advantage to white under the 7.5 komi rule, but did not elaborate on the exact percentages. Ke Jie is also known to be much stronger on white.

VioleTAK

4408 Posts

May 27 2017 09:13 GMT

#447

Also if you look at the 10 games that were just released of AlphaGo playing against itself (and 40 more to come in the next 4 days) you can see that 8 games were won by white. I suspect that trent will continue in all 50 games.

BrTarolg

United Kingdom3574 Posts

May 27 2017 14:51 GMT

#448

Jesus the Alphago games vs itself is just...

The claim of "3 stones stronger" doesn't seem like such a far off statement now (even though it's more like 1.5 stones maybe? who knows)

Every move it makes is ultra flexible and has multi purpose meaning waaaay beyond any human can understand. Funny we thought it would be a monster at reading, but in fact it's a monster at positional play and the ability to understand the tradeoffs and full potential of every move

Lucumo

6850 Posts

May 27 2017 15:28 GMT

#449

Is Go more complicated than Shougi? Shouldn't be, right?

VioleTAK

4408 Posts

May 27 2017 20:38 GMT

#450

It depends on how you define what's complicated, because Go is a very simple game rule-wise for example.

But it is 19x19... 361, while Shougi is 81 right?

By the 32nd move, the number of possibilities goes beyond the number of atoms in the known universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_and_mathematics#Legal_positions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_shogi#Game_complexity

Paljas

Germany6926 Posts

May 28 2017 20:38 GMT

#451

All 50 Alpha Go self playe games are released now. They look super weird.

Especially after looking at these, I feel confident in saying that Go is more complicated than Shogi

BrTarolg

United Kingdom3574 Posts

May 28 2017 21:05 GMT

#452

Had a browse of the games

Looks like total alien go to me

Attachment after attachment and always invade the 3-3 lol

Glacierz

United States1245 Posts

May 29 2017 04:56 GMT

#453

I wouldn't be surprised if people start to play like it within a year or so. It's a shame that they are retiring the program. I hope someday it will be made open source. The computational requirement isn't super high, definitely possible to get an unbeatable version going on a home PC a few years down the road.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

May 13 2018 11:57 GMT

#454

Anyone still play?

I'm still playing but mostly 9x9 and I can't seem to consistently win. I feel like I'm just playing poorly all around.

mahrgell

Germany3943 Posts

October 11 2018 15:06 GMT

#455

Somehow the broadcast of the German Go championship is currently having >5000 viewers on twitch!

M3t4PhYzX

Poland4267 Posts

September 16 2022 14:03 GMT

#456

bump

anyone interested in the game still?

I have finally overcome my "i'm going to lose a lot" anxiety (after around 8 years of being interested in the game overall..) and started playing on ogs recently.

having a lot of fun so far, shame i didn't start earlier

Garnet

Vietnam9048 Posts

September 16 2022 17:21 GMT

#457

It's impossible to quit this game.

datscilly

United States529 Posts

September 17 2022 04:52 GMT

#458

I'm playing on OGS, https://online-go.com/player/1169028/, ranked 4kyu playing against bots. It might be fun to play against people or posters from TL. I don't see an easy button to challenge, might have to make a game and invite.

Also, I'm actively playing chess on lichess.

Paljas

Germany6926 Posts

September 17 2022 18:07 GMT

#459

I have like 4000 games on ogs, and plan to go to tourneys again soonish