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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
August 27 2010 21:54 GMT
#14961
Just randomly checking in this thread to see what's up with all the LoL changes recently and such. And of course it's a page of discussion (at least) on the definition of the word metagame. -_-.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
August 27 2010 21:55 GMT
#14962
On August 28 2010 06:46 Phrost wrote:
I prefer to use the word "metagame" to refer to the common trends of the time, more or less.


Also why hasn't Kayle fell down the nerf tree yet? It seems like when Ezreal fell he hit every branch along the way.


Quite some people don't know how strong kayle is. I was 2 times forced of a solo lane caus kayle is supposedly "support"
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
August 27 2010 21:56 GMT
#14963
On August 28 2010 06:54 hasuprotoss wrote:
Just randomly checking in this thread to see what's up with all the LoL changes recently and such. And of course it's a page of discussion (at least) on the definition of the word metagame. -_-.


This thread gets at least 5+ pages a day added to it. I'm sure there is plenty to read.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 27 2010 21:57 GMT
#14964
On August 28 2010 06:55 Pakje wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 06:46 Phrost wrote:
I prefer to use the word "metagame" to refer to the common trends of the time, more or less.


Also why hasn't Kayle fell down the nerf tree yet? It seems like when Ezreal fell he hit every branch along the way.


Quite some people don't know how strong kayle is. I was 2 times forced of a solo lane caus kayle is supposedly "support"



My last 3 games I solo'd a lane and came out with guns blazing at level 10 and proceeded to wreck their team after that. Red/blue buff helps her almost as much as Ezreal
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 22:10:33
August 27 2010 22:04 GMT
#14965
On August 28 2010 06:52 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 06:48 HazMat wrote:
Just got matched with Xpecial, is he some high elo player? I've heard his name before..


One of the best Ezreal players, and one of the most consistent carries. If you're with him, enjoy the ride :D If you're against, uhh, keep him down.

he's 8-0, im not doing bad myself
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
August 27 2010 22:16 GMT
#14966
Yeah if your playing kayle you want that solo lane.. Idk why people in 1400 area think Kayle can't solo.. Ive even had people say that kayle is a tank... lol?

Also, I hog red on kayle.. blue.. not so much, its pretty eh after tooth cause I get near max cooldowns, and I rarely have mana problems with my runes. I do like blue when I go for madreds second though
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 22:35:34
August 27 2010 22:34 GMT
#14967
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=224332
9_9

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=224420
9_9
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
August 27 2010 22:38 GMT
#14968
On August 28 2010 07:16 BraveGhost wrote:
Yeah if your playing kayle you want that solo lane.. Idk why people in 1400 area think Kayle can't solo.. Ive even had people say that kayle is a tank... lol?

Also, I hog red on kayle.. blue.. not so much, its pretty eh after tooth cause I get near max cooldowns, and I rarely have mana problems with my runes. I do like blue when I go for madreds second though


It's really annoying to convince people that kayle is the BEST CARRY in the game (oke this is debatable)
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
August 27 2010 22:43 GMT
#14969
I seriously dont understand what makes Kayle such a good carry. I've played her several times and she felt meh. Yeah she does some damage, but her Aspd is SLOOW like fuck. Maybe enlighten me? Masteries/special runes?
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 27 2010 22:50 GMT
#14970
On August 28 2010 07:43 BluzMan wrote:
Kayle her Aspd is SLOOW like fuck


u srs bro?
kayle + GRB + red buff
or
kayle + Nashor's + red buff

is like enemy is permanently kited, no matter if they're udyr in bear stance with improved ghost and boots of swiftness or rammus in powerball...
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 27 2010 22:50 GMT
#14971
On August 28 2010 07:43 BluzMan wrote:
I seriously dont understand what makes Kayle such a good carry. I've played her several times and she felt meh. Yeah she does some damage, but her Aspd is SLOOW like fuck. Maybe enlighten me? Masteries/special runes?


Her attack damage procs into AP, and AP procs into damage, and both of them affect damage output. That means all she needs is attack speed, which is why everyone just tends to stack attack speed on her.

For instance, if you get Infinity Edge (the build I actually recommend),
most heroes get +80 damage, like 20% crit chance, and +50% on crits.

But on Kayle you get
+80 damage, 20% crit, +50% on crits, and like 20 AP

Which is like a total of +100 damage when she uses her skill, not to mention it buffs her heal.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 27 2010 22:51 GMT
#14972
On August 28 2010 07:43 BluzMan wrote:
I seriously dont understand what makes Kayle such a good carry. I've played her several times and she felt meh. Yeah she does some damage, but her Aspd is SLOOW like fuck. Maybe enlighten me? Masteries/special runes?


ASP marks
Berserker greaves
GRB (increases ASP with each stack)
Nashor's Tooth

Easily 1.8 or higher attack rate
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 27 2010 22:52 GMT
#14973
http://twitter.com/RiotPendragon/statuses/22304827141
Service stability- our number one priority.


http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=224620

It's a good read, though.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
August 27 2010 23:00 GMT
#14974
On August 28 2010 07:51 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 07:43 BluzMan wrote:
I seriously dont understand what makes Kayle such a good carry. I've played her several times and she felt meh. Yeah she does some damage, but her Aspd is SLOOW like fuck. Maybe enlighten me? Masteries/special runes?


ASP marks
Berserker greaves
GRB (increases ASP with each stack)
Nashor's Tooth

Easily 1.8 or higher attack rate


This. Exact same build I use for her, Idk about anything besides marks, I run Clarity Seals/Glyphs on
here atm just because I dont have CDR runes atm.

Once you get all that you pretty much cant lose, you just pop your e and watch everyone die from splash.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
August 27 2010 23:01 GMT
#14975
On August 28 2010 07:52 Southlight wrote:
http://twitter.com/RiotPendragon/statuses/22304827141
Show nested quote +
Service stability- our number one priority.


http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=224620

It's a good read, though.

I bet r1ch could solve their problems.
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
August 27 2010 23:02 GMT
#14976
you guys like Aspeed marks on Kayle? I've been using Armor Pen then the 15% mpen masteries..


Ive been doing Gunsoos into Madreds Bloodrazor with green pot constantly and red and blue when you can.. Guinsoos Madreds Greaves and green very very powerful...

When I can I will do the Guinsoos Greaves, Nashoors Tooth, Infinity Edge, but only when they have lots of squishies
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 23:12:36
August 27 2010 23:11 GMT
#14977
i like infinity right after guinsoo's and zerks, i feel like my carry power increases 10fold with infinity over nashors, but w/e preference thing i think, nashors is still a very good item

also ghostblade is a decent pick as well, since (unless they patched it out and i didnt see) kayle's e still counts as a 'melee' attack

and i triple pot be4 infinity, its stupid good
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 23:15:10
August 27 2010 23:14 GMT
#14978
I think people would appreciate kayle more if she weren't so incredibly boring to play

On August 28 2010 08:11 barbsq wrote:
i like infinity right after guinsoo's and zerks, i feel like my carry power increases 10fold with infinity over nashors


I should hope so, it costs twice as much
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 27 2010 23:16 GMT
#14979
i think one of the reasons why kayle is so good as a "carry" is similar to Ezreal in that she "kicks in" earlier than other carries. with just that core of ring,zrkers,GRB,nashor she can chug elixirs and just dominate the mid game.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 27 2010 23:19 GMT
#14980
On August 28 2010 08:11 barbsq wrote:
i like infinity right after guinsoo's and zerks, i feel like my carry power increases 10fold with infinity over nashors, but w/e preference thing i think, nashors is still a very good item

also ghostblade is a decent pick as well, since (unless they patched it out and i didnt see) kayle's e still counts as a 'melee' attack

and i triple pot be4 infinity, its stupid good


I get nashor's because it has CDR and mana regen if i dont have the golem buff
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
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