EPTIt doesn't fucking need to mean what the dictionary says. I always laugh when SC players get so bent out of shape over the use of one particular word, when as a subculture, nerds invent and misuse words all the freaking time.
Why all the uproar?
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
It doesn't fucking need to mean what the dictionary says. I always laugh when SC players get so bent out of shape over the use of one particular word, when as a subculture, nerds invent and misuse words all the freaking time. Why all the uproar? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Not complaining though. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:06 Haemonculus wrote: The word metagaming has a different meaning in different gaming circles. In warhammer or MTG or even GSB the word is used to refer to the current trend of game players, be it army lists, fleet comp, or deck type. Second this, I grew up around "metagame" referring to the current trend because of M:tG. And redtooth that's not really true, Corki has always been one of the strongest carries because of his farm speed and because gatling + true damage was ridiculous. It just took either a strong player (MakNooN was making it work, and I'd seen several Koreans pull it off) or a terrible opponent to make it work consistently because on paper he has no laning power whatsoever, and he's a farm-heavy carry. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:14 Southlight wrote: Second this, I grew up around "metagame" referring to the current trend because of M:tG. And redtooth that's not really true, Corki has always been one of the strongest carries because of his farm speed and because gatling + true damage was ridiculous. It just took either a strong player (MakNooN was making it work, and I'd seen several Koreans pull it off) or a terrible opponent to make it work consistently because on paper he has no laning power whatsoever, and he's a farm-heavy carry. Well, however you use it doesn't matter because you're still using it wrong, same with redtooth, thats not how you use the word metagame. And I've only seen one decent corki, and I was on a team with a feeder so. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:14 Southlight wrote: Second this, I grew up around "metagame" referring to the current trend because of M:tG. And redtooth that's not really true, Corki has always been one of the strongest carries because of his farm speed and because gatling + true damage was ridiculous. It just took either a strong player (MakNooN was making it work, and I'd seen several Koreans pull it off) or a terrible opponent to make it work consistently because on paper he has no laning power whatsoever, and he's a farm-heavy carry. That's what metagame means in Starcraft, I would think that's what it means in LoL. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:17 PanN wrote: Well, however you use it doesn't matter because you're still using it wrong, same with redtooth, thats not how you use the word metagame.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagaming#Adaptation_to_a_specific_gaming_environment Also complaining about the incorrect usage of words in the English language and when you're an American is hilarious. FFS google is a word, now. Guys, we have such an inflexible language. Newsflash: we don't. And enough people use "metagame" the way it's used by SC people (and in this case LoL people) that you can stick your silly attempt at being a vocabulary nazi up wherever it came from. Haz: I get stuck with 14XX all the time in solo ranked matches. No one knows why but it introduces an extreme measure of randomness. | ||
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Fishcakes
United States149 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
I've got 1558, should I pick up singed so the entire map is open for tower diving or save up for jax/kassadin? | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:24 Southlight wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagaming#Adaptation_to_a_specific_gaming_environment Also complaining about the incorrect usage of words in the English language and when you're an American is hilarious. FFS google is a word, now. Guys, we have such an inflexible language. Newsflash: we don't. And enough people use "metagame" the way it's used by SC people (and in this case LoL people) that you can stick your silly attempt at being a vocabulary nazi up wherever it came from. Haz: I get stuck with 14XX all the time in solo ranked matches. No one knows why but it introduces an extreme measure of randomness. Trust me, I'm no where near a vocabulary nazi, and because a bunch of people use it a certain way, doesn't make it correct. It's just annoying when people use words completely wrong, not even remotely wrong, but completely wrong. And the bit at the end of your post was cute. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=130447 "* Metagaming can also mean the standardized strategy * - No it can't. You are misusing the word. * Metagaming has multiple meanings * - No it doesn't. The meaning is broad to cover innumerable situations, but they are all captured under the single definition." | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:24 BajaBlood wrote: I'm in the 20s now level-wise so I'm able to start with blue now no problems (I use phoenix though to do it faster, but turtle worked for me as well), but I used to try to jungle with various heroes before I had good rune/mastery loadouts. My suggestions would be to either: A.) Start with a fort pot plus 5xhealth pot and see if that works - the fortitude potion is stronger than cloth armor but won't contribute to your item build. However the extra dmg (= faster jungling) and the ability to start at blue will make it worth the money. or B.) Have someone stay near blue (they should be to stop the enemy team from warding anyway) and cast a spell on it after it spawns (a mundo cleaver works wonders) I wouldn't do an alternate route unless you can't find any way to beat golem at level 1; the blue rune is critical to fast jungling and fast jungling opens up a lot more ganking opportunities (on that note I'd recommend switching to smite/ghost if you can find a way to beat golem without rally) Even a lvl 13 can do it with phoenix stance and full lvl 1 aspd runeset. Turtle stance is awful, even if you don't die, you're doing it so slowly you'll be far behind where you normally would be. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
Also why hasn't Kayle fell down the nerf tree yet? It seems like when Ezreal fell he hit every branch along the way. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:17 PanN wrote: Well, however you use it doesn't matter because you're still using it wrong, same with redtooth, thats not how you use the word metagame. And I've only seen one decent corki, and I was on a team with a feeder so. So can you enlighten us on the "correct" way to use the word metagame because I was under the impression that it was the trends of the players that you're going to be up against as well. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Bitch took kassadin. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: So can you enlighten us on the "correct" way to use the word metagame because I was under the impression that it was the trends of the players that you're going to be up against as well. Someone else stated the correct way, and so did I a few posts up, there's a link to a giant thread on the explanation of it. I apologize if I came off as a dick, with redtooth and south being so quick to jump on peoples league of legends mistakes, I didn't think telling them that they used the word metagame wrong would offend so much. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:48 HazMat wrote: Just got matched with Xpecial, is he some high elo player? I've heard his name before.. One of the best Ezreal players, and one of the most consistent carries. If you're with him, enjoy the ride :D If you're against, uhh, keep him down. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:46 Phrost wrote: I prefer to use the word "metagame" to refer to the common trends of the time, more or less. Also why hasn't Kayle fell down the nerf tree yet? It seems like when Ezreal fell he hit every branch along the way. 'Cause she can fly? How about we just ban the word | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On August 28 2010 06:49 PanN wrote: Someone else stated the correct way, and so did I a few posts up, there's a link to a giant thread on the explanation of it. I apologize if I came off as a dick, with redtooth and south being so quick to jump on peoples league of legends mistakes, I didn't think telling them that they used the word metagame wrong would offend so much. Based on : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagaming Both ways of using "metagame" are correct. Let's drop this argument and continue talking about league of legends. | ||
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