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Shikyo
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Flicky
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Mogwai
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Shikyo
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On August 03 2010 02:03 Mogwai wrote: YEA, I HATE EXTRA 600-2000 DAMAGE NUKES, ARRRRGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! more like 200-500 at 60 second cooldown | ||
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Southlight
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ProdT
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Mogwai
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 03 2010 02:12 Mogwai wrote: stop using it to nuke people who are low. I always use it as the first nuke in my combo, it still doesn't do almost any damage. about 40% of max hp with 1000 AP, whooppeedeedooooo | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
I dunno, I remember southlight crunching some numbers awhile back of like, level 11 Annie vs. a 1.5K HP target or something with DFG and DFG was the largest single source of damage. | ||
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radmax86
United States437 Posts
On August 03 2010 00:19 Southlight wrote: Oh yeah I forgot Abyssal, although no caster really gets it. I didn't want to mention masteries because the majority of casters don't like having to stick 9/X/X I've gotten it a bunch recently on Heimer after zhonya's. The MR component paired with merc treads gives you some decent magic resists without having to buy a dedicated defensive item. It seems like there are enough MR options for tanks already; I dont understand why they feel the need to introduce 3 more. I wish they would add an item similar to abyssal scepter for physical damage dealers that gave +dmg and +MR. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On August 03 2010 02:18 Mogwai wrote: with 1000 AP, it'd be 60% of their current health, herpdederp. I dunno, I remember southlight crunching some numbers awhile back of like, level 11 Annie vs. a 1.5K HP target or something with DFG and DFG was the largest single source of damage. before MR though Also I when I by a 48 MR cape, as caster, I nearly allways turn it into abyssal when I have the chance. Suprised it isnt more popular | ||
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Mogwai
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 03 2010 02:18 Mogwai wrote: with 1000 AP, it'd be 60% of their current health, herpdederp. I dunno, I remember southlight crunching some numbers awhile back of like, level 11 Annie vs. a 1.5K HP target or something with DFG and DFG was the largest single source of damage. It happens to be magic damage, not true damage. Seriously, it's terrible. No one is going to be at full hp most of the time anyway. You need the other items much more. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On August 03 2010 00:31 Shikyo wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/5536/lulzzz.jpg) sup those are some really silly ass builds on your team. | ||
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Nailpolish
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On August 03 2010 02:51 Orpheos wrote: those are some really silly ass builds on your team. LMAO, ANNIE went AS =))))))), hillarious | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 03 2010 02:47 Shikyo wrote: It happens to be magic damage, not true damage. Seriously, it's terrible. No one is going to be at full hp most of the time anyway. You need the other items much more. I'm well aware, I just still think the ability is very strong, sue me. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
It's 30% of their current HP, plus 3.5% every 100 AP and Veigar happens to get an extra 40AP very easily, so by all accounts if you rush DFG you'll do 33.5% of their HP with DFG + Q + R. Assuming they have 1000 HP (which isn't max HP for most people) you'll do a base of 335 with DFG. Considering that Q is 260 +.6 it's actually more than Q, but ignoring the minute difference you've essentially got a second nuke, which is kinda sorta important when your hero is designed to gib one person immediately. Of all his spells DFG actually scales the best and most cost-efficiently, too. Assuming they have 2000 HP it instantly does a base of over 600 damage, for which you'd need about 500 AP to be able to equate with Q. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 03 2010 02:53 Nailpolish wrote: practice game screenshots are serious business Just my first triple stack game >_> On August 03 2010 02:45 Mogwai wrote: it's not like it's less affected by MR and Mpen though... regardless of MR, it will still be the largest part of your burst. Yeah, it'll add about 30-50% to your total burst depending on the target. It's singletarget on a long cooldown though and that doesn't matter if you die because you don't have the extra survivability of RoA. It also makes you do less damage during the 60 seconds it is on cooldown. Take it if you want to just gank someone every 60 seconds I guess. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 03 2010 03:02 Shikyo wrote: Just my first triple stack game >_> Yeah, it'll add about 30-50% to your total burst depending on the target. It's singletarget on a long cooldown though and that doesn't matter if you die because you don't have the extra survivability of RoA. It also makes you do less damage during the 60 seconds it is on cooldown. Take it if you want to just gank someone every 60 seconds I guess. Isn't that what Veigar is meant to do though? I mean, he's a nuker, which you know, is all about burst, not the next 60 seconds after dropping your burst. | ||
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