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Southlight
United States11763 Posts
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United States5770 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On July 21 2010 15:42 Juicyfruit wrote: My soloQ win percentage is continuously rising. I'm pretty sure once you get out of the dunghole, matchmaking is actually pretty decent. I went from -5 to +30 in about a month after I dropped premades and playing almost only solo Q. I have the reverse effect. Maybe it's because I've stopped maining Kassadin and tried other heroes. Idk, I feel extremely unlucky because whenever I dominate mid with Karthus the rest of my team manages to get something like 0-5 in the first minutes, and whenever my team seems decent I start feeding hardcore. But this is probably not luck but ineptitude. Oh and there was that wonderful game when we went a Heimer/Karthus against a Xin Zhao/Kassadin lane. Man it's fucking impossible. Totally and absolutely. Btw, any advice on Karthus? His itemization seems pretty straightforward, but I still have little idea when to gank/push with him. | ||
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Hsanrb
United States46 Posts
On July 21 2010 15:31 Repok wrote: @1) So Level 30's don't have the same chance of losing as level 20's? Or are you saying that 20's are inferior to 30's? Whatever statement you're claiming, it doesn't make sense. @2) So there are more offenders sub 30 than level 30's. Cool. More reason to limit ranked to 30s. @3) What about those unlucky level 30's who always somehow end up with a much inferior team cause his elo to drop immensely? @1 I'm saying that if your sub 30 and you pre-make, your with teammate who know you and respect the fact your not 30. If you solo queue sub 30, you'll end up with people level 30 who will blame the loss on you, even if its the sub 30 duo laning with a 30, or by a pro player who isn't 30 able to turn the tables in the early game. Its unlikely but there are those sub 30 who actually succeed (though mostly mid 20's not early 20's) @2 Think the gist of what I was saying is that the leavers might have a previous record and that by also comparing the average leave rate of players vs ranked leave rate you might be able to get a better comparison of those with a history vs those who leave despite the fact of a clean record. 4.2% leave rate at level 20, might be 4.2% leave rate ALL the time, while level 30's might have a better leave rate because theres more of them, there might also be the fact that leavers with a strong history of leaving is bringing that value up. Only 1.2% of leavers in 30, might be 100% of those with a history of leaving. @3 If a level 30 loses 100 points, maybe they play with a level 20 who gained 100 points. Sometimes solo queue has luck to it, or its another way to say "don't suck." If your lane falls its your fault, if another lane falls its luck, but eventually bad luck goes away (it might be S2, but it evens out in the end.) | ||
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Cirn9
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On July 21 2010 14:17 Mogwai wrote: Grackis is very forgettable as a player IMO. Funny that I read this right before I played this game. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/zh8LV.png) I was like, ah shit Grackis is pretty well known and he is Ezreal so this could be a rough game. Turns out all he did was try to mystic shot me bottom lane (had 2 cs) and try to zone me while just failing hardcore. I mean yeah his team failed with him but even in previous games when I'd play with Grackis he would do very very mediocre and talk a lot of shit. Although I did win a 4v5 with him once. :$ Anyway the Singed on my team was amazing... like, scary amazing. He basically let me solo the bot lane while he jungled with poison gas and drinking red pots and then he'd just come gank people. Oh and farm. Lots of farm. | ||
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Southlight
United States11763 Posts
Edit: And Dyrus is bar-none a top 15 player in my book >_> | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
Just played a game where you'd get 30 seconds of playtime and then a minute of not being able to move at all due to lag. Fucking unbearable. So many people including me died to turrets from not being able to move out of them. | ||
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pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
I think this change will indirectly lead to ppl hitting 30 while being only good with 1-2 champs (cause ur trying hard to win for max xp). Only to be screwed by draft mode getting their mains banned/picked. That could be just me though. Seems my play time is constantly shrinking so when I do play its gonna be on my main to increase chance of winning for max reward. I havent even tried Panth since the nerf cause it sounds like a waste of time, and usually only try diff champs on my EU acc when US is down. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 21 2010 17:07 Chrispy wrote: Funny that I read this right before I played this game. I was like, ah shit Grackis is pretty well known and he is Ezreal so this could be a rough game. Turns out all he did was try to mystic shot me bottom lane (had 2 cs) and try to zone me while just failing hardcore. I mean yeah his team failed with him but even in previous games when I'd play with Grackis he would do very very mediocre and talk a lot of shit. Although I did win a 4v5 with him once. :$ Anyway the Singed on my team was amazing... like, scary amazing. He basically let me solo the bot lane while he jungled with poison gas and drinking red pots and then he'd just come gank people. Oh and farm. Lots of farm. lolol... Dyrus so good. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On July 21 2010 15:57 -orb- wrote: For the level 20 or level 30 discussion, I think personally it should be so that if you're below 30 you can only participate in ranked if you're part of a full premade (i.e. no solo or duo queuing). That way you can't fuck higher level players up that don't want you on their team and will only be with people that want to play with you. Very good&fair idea. I'm so happy there will be no more sub-30s geez so many of them suck that it was important to make this limitation | ||
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Southlight
United States11763 Posts
LoCicero (5:54): with his ult Illuvator (5:54): and that ChrispySC (5:54): kaboom LoCicero (5:54): like 3 times in a row | ||
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judochopaction
United States533 Posts
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On July 21 2010 16:00 Hsanrb wrote: @1 I'm saying that if your sub 30 and you pre-make, your with teammate who know you and respect the fact your not 30. If you solo queue sub 30, you'll end up with people level 30 who will blame the loss on you, even if its the sub 30 duo laning with a 30, or by a pro player who isn't 30 able to turn the tables in the early game. Its unlikely but there are those sub 30 who actually succeed (though mostly mid 20's not early 20's) @2 Think the gist of what I was saying is that the leavers might have a previous record and that by also comparing the average leave rate of players vs ranked leave rate you might be able to get a better comparison of those with a history vs those who leave despite the fact of a clean record. 4.2% leave rate at level 20, might be 4.2% leave rate ALL the time, while level 30's might have a better leave rate because theres more of them, there might also be the fact that leavers with a strong history of leaving is bringing that value up. Only 1.2% of leavers in 30, might be 100% of those with a history of leaving. @3 If a level 30 loses 100 points, maybe they play with a level 20 who gained 100 points. Sometimes solo queue has luck to it, or its another way to say "don't suck." If your lane falls its your fault, if another lane falls its luck, but eventually bad luck goes away (it might be S2, but it evens out in the end.) Maybe this, maybe that, the stats are right there, why would they lie just to change it? If there wasn't a problem they'd leave it in place. I'm sure there are people who understand these statistics WAY better than you at Riot. All I'm saying is that I'm really, really glad this is being implemented. | ||
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Southlight
United States11763 Posts
Yeah, the main reason an individual who plays a lot of ranked games can't get over 1200 is that their skill level is below 1200. Ranked games are competitive guys. Half of players are below average, that's how it goes. If anyone has a good connection to God or knows someone who does, be sure to request that the next time he creates a universe, to try make average be 10th percentile so that most everyone can be above average on something like this ;p Bad luck cuts both ways, it's very hard to play a lot of games and primarily get 'bad luck', especially because we know that if you are about 200-300 pts over the game, you generally carry. Lastly, leadership ends up being part of your ranked random rating. Sorry... just the nature of it. It was this way in WC3 also. From Zileas http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=175418 Good thread to read if you wanna keep complaining about MM in s1 ;p | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On July 21 2010 19:14 Southlight wrote: From Zileas http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=175418 Good thread to read if you wanna keep complaining about MM in s1 ;p I'm complaining about the servers, only 1 game out of 6 had no dcs for me, I'm not going back until this is fixed... Also yesterday I played the most awesome tag-team game ever, with people leaving and reconnecting every 2 mins until 25 mins or so... | ||
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Southlight
United States11763 Posts
Also that post wasn't directed to you, it's more-or-less a continuation on everyone bitching about MM and how they keep getting stuck with noobs and can't go up. Zileas (and that thread) basically is a confirmation of my tirade a while ago about people not being as good as they think :p Edit: Case in point, on the night of my 150 elo drop because of Salcepulse, I was mostly solo queueing (I didn't wanna drag Yiruru down with me), and I still found it basically practically impossible to go down to 1400. I fucked around, didn't care, and still ended up with a positive record on a hero that sucks (Tryndamere) running inane summoner spells (Clarity/Revive) with caster runes and masteries (magic pen/mp5pl/mp5pl). | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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