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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
July 21 2010 04:10 GMT
#7241
On July 21 2010 09:18 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 08:31 nennx wrote:
On July 21 2010 08:03 Athos wrote:
Hey, does anybody know how to jungle Nasus/ is it even a good idea? In the 2 games I tried it I failed epically and was unable to kill golum for way too long and died like 3 times. Really embarrassing actually.

Of course nasus works great as a 1v2 or just a laner, but I want to be able to pick a jungler not named Shaco/warwick.


I don't think nasus is viable in the jungle until you have level 2 or 3 spirit fire at least

Fiddlesticks, olaf, or xin are all decent junglers too


Nasus has no problems jungling at all



Can you explain how it works then? I'm looking all over the internet and I can't find anything.


Also I just rocked a 1v2 lane with Nasus. He's so good when you build him tanky. It's like Randium's Omen was made for the guy.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 21 2010 04:16 GMT
#7242
Why does MM always place me with a leaver when I start to win a few games in a row? If you leave you should be BANNED from ranked play.
Never Knows Best.
bellweather
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States404 Posts
July 21 2010 04:21 GMT
#7243
On July 21 2010 13:16 Slaughter wrote:
Why does MM always place me with a leaver when I start to win a few games in a row? If you leave you should be BANNED from ranked play.


Sometimes real life situations arise which take precedence over LoL. ie; my curtain just caught fire, my brother is flushing my fish down the toilet, etc
A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isnt' there. -Charles Darwin
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
July 21 2010 04:23 GMT
#7244
On July 21 2010 13:10 Athos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 09:18 Shikyo wrote:
On July 21 2010 08:31 nennx wrote:
On July 21 2010 08:03 Athos wrote:
Hey, does anybody know how to jungle Nasus/ is it even a good idea? In the 2 games I tried it I failed epically and was unable to kill golum for way too long and died like 3 times. Really embarrassing actually.

Of course nasus works great as a 1v2 or just a laner, but I want to be able to pick a jungler not named Shaco/warwick.


I don't think nasus is viable in the jungle until you have level 2 or 3 spirit fire at least

Fiddlesticks, olaf, or xin are all decent junglers too


Nasus has no problems jungling at all



Can you explain how it works then? I'm looking all over the internet and I can't find anything.


Also I just rocked a 1v2 lane with Nasus. He's so good when you build him tanky. It's like Randium's Omen was made for the guy.


Rammus has dibs on that

On July 21 2010 13:16 Slaughter wrote:
Why does MM always place me with a leaver when I start to win a few games in a row? If you leave you should be BANNED from ranked play.


Use the in game report function to get them banned.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
July 21 2010 04:25 GMT
#7245
I think I'm done with LoL now that they are banning people under level 30 from match making.

You can join HoN matchmaking minutes after buying the game, why do people seem to think you need to grind hundreds of games before you can compete in this? It's so insane how peoples minds have been warped around the system that LoL has implemented. It makes no sense at all. Masteries and runes are not THAT significant and I've been a better player than 75% of level 30s in half the amount of time it takes to reach level 30.

I don't know if they want to sell more XP potions or some shit or they are just trying to quell the massive amount of level 30s who are so delusional as to think they aren't as fuck-awful as they actually are at this game, but I'm not gonna allow myself to be relegated to grinding games like it's World of Warcraft because some self-entitled trash players who have 500+ games under their belt think it's my fault that they are still terrible.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 04:30:43
July 21 2010 04:29 GMT
#7246
On July 21 2010 13:25 floor exercise wrote:
I think I'm done with LoL now that they are banning people under level 30 from match making.

You can join HoN matchmaking minutes after buying the game, why do people seem to think you need to grind hundreds of games before you can compete in this? It's so insane how peoples minds have been warped around the system that LoL has implemented. It makes no sense at all. Masteries and runes are not THAT significant and I've been a better player than 75% of level 30s in half the amount of time it takes to reach level 30.

I don't know if they want to sell more XP potions or some shit or they are just trying to quell the massive amount of level 30s who are so delusional as to think they aren't as fuck-awful as they actually are at this game, but I'm not gonna allow myself to be relegated to grinding games like it's World of Warcraft because some self-entitled trash players who have 500+ games under their belt think it's my fault that they are still terrible.

Are they really?
I know there was a thread were someone wanted that but didn't know Riot listened.

edit: Ahh there it is, great news. http://www.leagueoflegends.com/news/level-requirement-ranked-games-increasing-30
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
July 21 2010 04:30 GMT
#7247
On July 21 2010 13:25 floor exercise wrote:
I think I'm done with LoL now that they are banning people under level 30 from match making.

You can join HoN matchmaking minutes after buying the game, why do people seem to think you need to grind hundreds of games before you can compete in this? It's so insane how peoples minds have been warped around the system that LoL has implemented. It makes no sense at all. Masteries and runes are not THAT significant and I've been a better player than 75% of level 30s in half the amount of time it takes to reach level 30.

I don't know if they want to sell more XP potions or some shit or they are just trying to quell the massive amount of level 30s who are so delusional as to think they aren't as fuck-awful as they actually are at this game, but I'm not gonna allow myself to be relegated to grinding games like it's World of Warcraft because some self-entitled trash players who have 500+ games under their belt think it's my fault that they are still terrible.



You can still join matchmaking at level 1. You can't join the highly competitive play that you'll probably lose anyway in for another 10 levels (like two weeks) and consequently newer players also can't make that mistake. Sounds like a win for everyone.
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ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3839 Posts
July 21 2010 04:37 GMT
#7248
Actually yes runes and masteries can give a very clear advantage to a player.
Especially for early game mana regen.

you have seen better players then the level 30s because you are being matched with level 30s at that point, level 30s who drop that low are going to be terrible.

I'm very happy that they did this, in fact I wish they did it from the start when I was starting ranked.
: o )
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
July 21 2010 04:41 GMT
#7249
Except I've already played like 50 games in MM and I have been up to 1400 points and am now at 1300 at level 25.

What is the point of stopping these players from taking part on the ladder, if they lose they drop down into the pits and play with eachother. If they win, they win.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 21 2010 04:49 GMT
#7250
You know this game is kinda fun while drunk.
Never Knows Best.
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
July 21 2010 04:57 GMT
#7251
On July 21 2010 13:49 Slaughter wrote:
You know this game is kinda fun while drunk.


Amen to that my fellow. Playing drunk as a premade is hilarious fun.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 21 2010 04:59 GMT
#7252
There's very little difference between a level 20 with full runes and a level 30 with full runes.

Stupid decision.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 21 2010 05:17 GMT
#7253
Grackis is very forgettable as a player IMO.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
July 21 2010 05:21 GMT
#7254
On July 21 2010 13:25 floor exercise wrote:
I think I'm done with LoL now that they are banning people under level 30 from match making.

You can join HoN matchmaking minutes after buying the game, why do people seem to think you need to grind hundreds of games before you can compete in this? It's so insane how peoples minds have been warped around the system that LoL has implemented. It makes no sense at all. Masteries and runes are not THAT significant and I've been a better player than 75% of level 30s in half the amount of time it takes to reach level 30.

I don't know if they want to sell more XP potions or some shit or they are just trying to quell the massive amount of level 30s who are so delusional as to think they aren't as fuck-awful as they actually are at this game, but I'm not gonna allow myself to be relegated to grinding games like it's World of Warcraft because some self-entitled trash players who have 500+ games under their belt think it's my fault that they are still terrible.

Well, stats don't lie.
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kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
July 21 2010 05:51 GMT
#7255
On July 21 2010 13:41 floor exercise wrote:
Except I've already played like 50 games in MM and I have been up to 1400 points and am now at 1300 at level 25.

What is the point of stopping these players from taking part on the ladder, if they lose they drop down into the pits and play with eachother. If they win, they win.


the main problem is they drag 4 other people down with them, and its bad for player morale to lose a game due to one person which you feel does not belong on your team, the truth may be that the ranking may be similar, but one person may be pro working their way up, and another person may be noob that got carried by friends. Its one of the problems when you use a system designed for individual play like Elo and use it for a team oriented game. Then again, theres few alternatives besides Elo to determine ranking.
Hsanrb
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
July 21 2010 05:57 GMT
#7256
On July 21 2010 14:21 Repok wrote:
Well, stats don't lie.
[image loading]


Those stats sound so flawed,

1)Are these solo queue, premade 3v3, premade 5v5? Chances are the 30% are playing pre-made while the 70% who lost are solo queue. I'd honestly throw solo queue out the window.

2)No stats based on leavers of normal games compared to leaving in ranked? Might be the same hundred/thousands of players repeat offenders making you notice the sub 30's more than the 30's.

3)If the complains are that much, no one took my reccomendation that lower levels should start at a lower ELO. I'm thinking 20 was roughly 1000, since you can't win that much per game it would take a 6 winning streak to go from 1000 to 1200 and play with the big boys and you have proven to belong there.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 06:15:41
July 21 2010 06:05 GMT
#7257
I started playing a few days ago (spinesheath @ EU) and have a few technical questions that I haven't found an answer to yet:

1) What does the blue/red/purple buff do exactly?

2) Do item effects stack?
(possible answer: all but the unique ones? How about boots?)

3) Does CD reduction work on all spells?
(it seems like it doesn't reduce the CD on Ashe's ulti, though I couldn't tell for sure)

4) How is damage calculated?
(just a rough description instead of the proper formula, like armor = absolute reduction?)

I guess that should do for now.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
July 21 2010 06:31 GMT
#7258
On July 21 2010 14:57 Hsanrb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 14:21 Repok wrote:
Well, stats don't lie.
[image loading]


Those stats sound so flawed,

1)Are these solo queue, premade 3v3, premade 5v5? Chances are the 30% are playing pre-made while the 70% who lost are solo queue. I'd honestly throw solo queue out the window.

2)No stats based on leavers of normal games compared to leaving in ranked? Might be the same hundred/thousands of players repeat offenders making you notice the sub 30's more than the 30's.

3)If the complains are that much, no one took my reccomendation that lower levels should start at a lower ELO. I'm thinking 20 was roughly 1000, since you can't win that much per game it would take a 6 winning streak to go from 1000 to 1200 and play with the big boys and you have proven to belong there.

@1) So Level 30's don't have the same chance of losing as level 20's? Or are you saying that 20's are inferior to 30's? Whatever statement you're claiming, it doesn't make sense.

@2) So there are more offenders sub 30 than level 30's. Cool. More reason to limit ranked to 30s.

@3) What about those unlucky level 30's who always somehow end up with a much inferior team cause his elo to drop immensely?
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
July 21 2010 06:34 GMT
#7259
On July 21 2010 15:05 spinesheath wrote:
I started playing a few days ago (spinesheath @ EU) and have a few technical questions that I haven't found an answer to yet:

1) What does the blue/red/purple buff do exactly?

2) Do item effects stack?
(possible answer: all but the unique ones? How about boots?)

3) Does CD reduction work on all spells?
(it seems like it doesn't reduce the CD on Ashe's ulti, though I couldn't tell for sure)

4) How is damage calculated?
(just a rough description instead of the proper formula, like armor = absolute reduction?)

I guess that should do for now.

1) Blue = Cooldown reduction/Mana regeneration
Red = Added buff to attack slowing attacked targets and dealing damage over time.
Purple = Damage/AP boost and added Regeneration

2) If the effect is not Unique, they all stack. Boots effects are unique so they do not stack.

3) Yes, CD reduction works for everything except for nidalee's pounce. (that I know of)

4)
Q: How does armor and magic resistance work? (Credit to Garek for framing it better than I could.)

Every 1 armor means the damage it takes to kill you is extended by 1% of your hitpoints. At 100 armor, it takes 100% more damage to kill you, ie it requires double damage, ie you're taking half-damage. At 300 armor you're taking 25% damage, etc.

Magic resistance works in the exact same fashion, except it does so against spells only. There is no overlap between armor and magic resistance at all. (Ex. Having 500 Armor would have no impact on spells, having 500 Magic Resistance would have no impact on physical attacks)


There's a FAQ post here, might want to check it out.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3287
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 06:44:01
July 21 2010 06:42 GMT
#7260
My soloQ win percentage is continuously rising. I'm pretty sure once you get out of the dunghole, matchmaking is actually pretty decent.

I went from -5 to +30 in about a month after I dropped premades and playing almost only solo Q.
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